Ysgramor Set any good on warden?

paul_j

Is the set Ysgramor any good on a mag warden? Looking for some feedback

WuffyCerulei

I'm actually curious about this too. Combined with winterborn or Iceheart, it could be pretty potent.

Qbiken

If Winterborn ever came as weapons and with purple rings (it only comes in gold and blue due to how the drops in maelstrom works at the moment) it would be interested but otherwise it´s difficult to get a decent setup with these sets

Tryxus

It's about as useful as it is on other classes

eirinnpryderi

paul_j wrote: »

Is the set Ysgramor any good on a mag warden? Looking for some feedback

I don't think its very useful since most of the Winter's Revenge skills are defensive, and the ones which can deal damage (morphs or ultimate) really dont do much damage

datgladiatah

Winter's revenge and sleet storm aren't bad. You could also use ice comet. It wouldn't be top DPS by any means but you would definitely control a battlefield pretty well. Sounds more fun for PvP

SodanTok

It is bad. No matter how you build your pve or pvp warden you wont deal most of your damage with cold damage type,

edit:
There simply aren't enough cold abilities

Juhasow

Qbiken wrote: »

If Winterborn ever came as weapons and with purple rings (it only comes in gold and blue due to how the drops in maelstrom works at the moment) it would be interested but otherwise it´s difficult to get a decent setup with these sets

Purple winterborn jewelery can drop from 7th and 8th round on veteran version.

Glaiceana

Yeah I've decided to make an Ice DD warden, just for fun. He has Ysgramor and will eventually get a full set of winterborn. At the moment he has Julianos for now.
It's super fun to play at the moment. I do wish there were more ice damage skills. But either way I knew he wouldn't be the strongest DD, but it was something I wanted to try that was unique for me

Zanen

IMO, no.

Winterborn is a better set than most people give it credit for, since the proc is AOE and the proc rate goes up with more targets it hits packs of mobs way harder than the dummy.

It synergizes really well with iceheart too..

But, with an ice staff equipped that only leaves four pieces, much better off running S&B or DW on the back bar with a utility five piece and a couple crit bonuses or use a 3 piece and maelstrom for the shiny bits since Winterborn doesn't have weapons.

You're not going to top any dps charts with a frost mage but with a charged staff everything in your blockade is maimed and rooted and with shimmering for ranged you can keep iceheart up...it plays pretty well solo.

Warmaiden would actually be better if you backbar the animals.

Stannum

paul_j wrote: »

Is the set Ysgramor any good on a mag warden? Looking for some feedback

I do not think it's good even on mag warden since really they have only one usefull cold damage ability (winter revenge). And other damage is either magic (animal line) or shock\fire (destro line) so even julianos will be overall better. Frost staff is not the choise for dps anyway (first of all cause you will loose 8% destro staff bonus dmg even without speaking off random taunt). As for cold ulties Nothen storm is good to have it sloted on main bar but destro ult is still better for use. Ther is also Ice comet it may have almost same dps as destro ult if use it on CD but it has much more small area.

humpalicous

paul_j wrote: »

Is the set Ysgramor any good on a mag warden? Looking for some feedback

Nothing related to cold or frost damage is good dps-wise in this game. They need to buff cold damage abilities in general to make it viable in damage dealing scenarios.

Hexys

The idea of an ice build is fun, but Necropotence will always outweight Ysgramor on a magicka warden.

Qbiken

Juhasow wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

If Winterborn ever came as weapons and with purple rings (it only comes in gold and blue due to how the drops in maelstrom works at the moment) it would be interested but otherwise it´s difficult to get a decent setup with these sets

Purple winterborn jewelery can drop from 7th and 8th round on veteran version.

@Juhasow
Only Necklace can drop from those rounds not rings therefore no purple rings exists. Unless someone can show me any in-game screenshoots from after one tamriel with purple winterborn rings from those chests.

Juhasow

Qbiken wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

If Winterborn ever came as weapons and with purple rings (it only comes in gold and blue due to how the drops in maelstrom works at the moment) it would be interested but otherwise it´s difficult to get a decent setup with these sets

Purple winterborn jewelery can drop from 7th and 8th round on veteran version.

@Juhasow
Only Necklace can drop from those rounds not rings therefore no purple rings exists. Unless someone can show me any in-game screenshoots from after one tamriel with purple winterborn rings from those chests.

Next time I'll try to not selling them to vendor

Qbiken

Juhasow wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

If Winterborn ever came as weapons and with purple rings (it only comes in gold and blue due to how the drops in maelstrom works at the moment) it would be interested but otherwise it´s difficult to get a decent setup with these sets

Purple winterborn jewelery can drop from 7th and 8th round on veteran version.

@Juhasow
Only Necklace can drop from those rounds not rings therefore no purple rings exists. Unless someone can show me any in-game screenshoots from after one tamriel with purple winterborn rings from those chests.

Next time I'll try to not selling them to vendor

So you´ve actually got some winterborn rings (purple) from those chests?? O my......time to get back in vMA I guess xD

STEVIL

The ice staff as defensive choice and limited cold damage warden spells makes chasing dps with cold sets a tough row to hoe.

bebynnag

it depends how you play the game

if your intrest lies in questing, world bosses, exploring delves, public dungeons & the occasional normal non DLC (undaunted) dungeon then the set paired with an ice staff is perfectly fine (just make sure you do NOT activate the ice staff taunt passive unless you are prepared to tank)

likewise if you just want to run around PvP as part of a group playing a supportive role (ice snares the opponents) chuck a resto & and a few heals on on your other bar & your good to go

but for vet dlc dungeons, VMA, vet trials, duel's, 1vXing your making things un-necessarily difficult for yourself

DeHei

A setup with this 5 pieces Ysgramor and 5 pieces Winterborn should played with froststaff and infused with frostenchant. You can slot elemental wall, your ult and the other frost area damage ability you can place(which scales with spelldamage and magicka). You are able to make much frostdamage and root enemies very often, but this dont deal much damage.. its just a nice option for a permarootbuild in groups..

Bobby_V_Rockit

Does it proc off ice staves though? Or is it just abilities?

Qbiken

DeHei wrote: »

A setup with this 5 pieces Ysgramor and 5 pieces Winterborn should played with froststaff and infused with frostenchant. You can slot elemental wall, your ult and the other frost area damage ability you can place(which scales with spelldamage and magicka). You are able to make much frostdamage and root enemies very often, but this dont deal much damage.. its just a nice option for a permarootbuild in groups..

@DeHei
Can´t run monster set with this setup sadly so add 1 Kena on that perhaps.. I´ve tried this setup with my magicka Warden. It´s as you say a nice niche build in PvP if you´re running with a group. The only skill I found usefull is Winter´s Revenge in PvE (actually a really strong DoT tbh)

DeHei

Qbiken wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

A setup with this 5 pieces Ysgramor and 5 pieces Winterborn should played with froststaff and infused with frostenchant. You can slot elemental wall, your ult and the other frost area damage ability you can place(which scales with spelldamage and magicka). You are able to make much frostdamage and root enemies very often, but this dont deal much damage.. its just a nice option for a permarootbuild in groups..

@DeHei
Can´t run monster set with this setup sadly so add 1 Kena on that perhaps.. I´ve tried this setup with my magicka Warden. It´s as you say a nice niche build in PvP if you´re running with a group. The only skill I found usefull is Winter´s Revenge in PvE (actually a really strong DoT tbh)

The trick is trying to procc winterkind (good option) with many dots on the enemy. With this maybe it can make good damage, but i think there are better builds..

FearAndPatching

Qbiken wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

If Winterborn ever came as weapons and with purple rings (it only comes in gold and blue due to how the drops in maelstrom works at the moment) it would be interested but otherwise it´s difficult to get a decent setup with these sets

Purple winterborn jewelery can drop from 7th and 8th round on veteran version.

@Juhasow
Only Necklace can drop from those rounds not rings therefore no purple rings exists. Unless someone can show me any in-game screenshoots from after one tamriel with purple winterborn rings from those chests.

Next time I'll try to not selling them to vendor

So you´ve actually got some winterborn rings (purple) from those chests?? O my......time to get back in vMA I guess xD

I actually have a full gold set of winterborn jewelry. If you can get on the leaderboards you get a gold weapon and a gold set piece (jewelry or armor) from VMA

Xvorg

datgladiatah wrote: »

Winter's revenge and sleet storm aren't bad. You could also use ice comet. It wouldn't be top DPS by any means but you would definitely control a battlefield pretty well. Sounds more fun for PvP

And frost staff

Juhasow

datgladiatah wrote: »

Winter's revenge and sleet storm aren't bad. You could also use ice comet. It wouldn't be top DPS by any means but you would definitely control a battlefield pretty well. Sounds more fun for PvP

Tbh lately nothing PvP related sounds fun.

Nemesis7884

I am wondering what will be better to use - having necropotence, julianos, winterborn, ysgramor

What combination would be best

Currently Using Necro + Winterborn

wondering if Ysgramor + Winterborn would be better or if Ysgramor would outperform Winterborn

Savos_Saren

Innate Axiom + Ysgramor + Ice Heart

SnB front bar
Ice Staff back bar

Fun stuff!!!

Stinkyremy

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Innate Axiom + Ysgramor + Ice Heart

SnB front bar
Ice Staff back bar

Fun stuff!!!

I have had this written down for a while as a build I will be using my dps/healer warden, swapping s&b with resto if I am healing.
That is when I finally make a warden

Night_Child

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

I'm actually curious about this too. Combined with winterborn or Iceheart, it could be pretty potent.

Stay away from Winterborn.

Night_Child

SodanTok wrote: »

It is bad. No matter how you build your pve or pvp warden you wont deal most of your damage with cold damage type,

edit:
There simply aren't enough cold abilities

😆🤣 Over 5k spell damage in battle with one set being Ysgramor's Birthright isn't bad at all in PVE. It's mostly AoE and dots, but still an amazing build. My Ice Comet reads for over 100k. There are enough cold abilities to get the job done if one is playing the magicka warden or Ice Wizard correctly. It's not a magicka sorceress elite/meta build, but not everyone cares for that and they can still pull their own weight in vet group dungeons.

MindOfTheSwarm

Ysgrammor is ok now. Frost was weak ini the past but Warden's have received significant buffs to the damage they deal with Frost. So much in fact that a Frost staff is preferable to a Fire Staff and Lightning Staff if you want to focus on Frost Damage due to the fact your Light and Heavy Attacks deal more damage than with a Fire or Lightning Staff along with some skills such as Wall of Elements, Destructive Touch and Impulse. Keep in mind Shock Pulse and the Destro Ultimate will be better with a Fire Staff or Lightning Staff generally speaking.

If you want to build for Frost you need to build around Crit damage and the Chilled status effect. The reason for this is due to the passive which boost Crit damage vs Chilled targets. So yes, Ysgrammor is not a bad set if you're building towards Frost. With regards to other sets I will point out strengths and weaknesses.

Winterborn:

The best thing about this set is not the proc but the Magicka Regen, this on a Breton means you can get away with not running recovery on your jewellery allowing you to ramp up your Max Magicka, which is good for your Northern Storm Ultimate. The proc will also deal more damage on a Warden than other classes, but at the end of the day it is a proc set and as such won't give you the best numbers.

Icy Conjuror:

A great set for PvP or soloing as the Penetration is always nice to have and the proc is a powerful DoT. This set I find is better on a Necromancer though due to their Rapid Rot passive. You can get this thing to a tooltip of 30k or more on a Necromancer and I run it on my Magcro for theme fun (Snow Wraith).

One set I would make a priority however is Elemental Succession. If you are going to main elemental damage, this set is top tier as it is basically up all the time and will give you more Max Magicka and Spell Damage for Frost than Ysgrammor at the cost of a bit of crit chance, but this is a small price to pay.

Running Elemental Succession with Mother's Sorrow or Perfected False Gods can make for a very nice Frost focused build.
You can then run Iceheart for more Frost which is nice due to more Crit Chance, or if you want to ramp up your DPS even further then Domihaus is not a bad option with the extra 200 Spell Damage.

For weapon sets then Maelstrom is the obvious choice here, but don't discount Black Rose Ice Staff, it has been buffed in Greymoor and every tick will benefit from Elemental Succession.

You basically have 3 choices.

1. Build for Crit Damage and build around the passive.

2. Build for Max Magicka and build around the 30 seconds 15% extra Max Magicka from your Northern Storm. The more Max Magicka you have the better this will benefit you.

3. A bit of both.


On a final note Frost Damage as a DPS option is 'almost' there. But not quite, really we need just one more Frost DoT in our skills to make it competitive. But don't worry too much, my main is a Frost Warden and if I can hit 45k on a 6mil dummy, so can you.