Trials need to be back on activity finder

Deathissupreme

Im end game done every dungeon but i cant do trials why because players are complete bull. Trials need to be put back on activity finder or revamped to be able to be done solo. So many bs players very little non bs players.

Deathissupreme

Zos do the right thing and stop listening to the bs players listen to the ones like me who see the games flaws and confront you about them

Deathissupreme

Everyone doesnt have people to run with like you just saying before anything negative is said regarding this thread

Danksta

You can find PUGs in Craglorn pretty easily, but if you're really interested in trials I'd recommend a trails focused guild. You may be able to find one in the guild recruitment section on these forums.

bebynnag

uuuuuum

who are you talking to?

Deathissupreme

The next person to reply will be KochDerDamonen considering you all have somthing to do with each other as i predicted which was obvious people who already have the people they always run with decided to comment

Danksta

drake88131

Ummmm...flies with honey my friend. I agree. It's hard even for me to get into a trial and I'm part of a great trials guild but they run at different time then I can play. The trials activity finder would be very helpful for me Bc I have also beat everything else and I'd like to complete the game. ZOS should really do this. But I'm guessing the fear of it being broken and threat of complaint is enough to scare them away

Deathissupreme

Thats more like it people like you drake i like

LadyNalcarya

You can just pug normal trials in Craglorn.
If those groups are too "bs" for you, then group finder pugs will probably make you want to kill yourself, since they will be much worse. You'll get all kinds of bs - archers with 10k hp queuing as tanks, healers with no heals, etc. Maybe it wouldnt be too bad for normal Craglorn trials, but pugging for nHoF and nMoL via group finder wont be an enjoyable experience: dont forget that when you're queueing for normal dungeons, you'll probably end up with new players, sometimes even lvl s 10-15. Dont get me wrong, Im not trying to belittle those players, but mechanic-based dungeons are usually very stressful for them, and without any decent gear (or even second bar!) they arent prepared for trials.
Communication is another potential issue. When you join a /z pug, chances are that your group undestands English (French, German, Russian, etc), and if theyre stuck, you can at least try to explain the mechanics or help them. In grpup finder pugs, on the other hand, you can easily end up in a group that doesnt read the chat or a group where everyone speaks different languages.
They could add normal trials to group finder, but I doubt it would end well. Vet trials are out of question completely, because of obvious reasons - if you dont believe me, try to start /z pug with no requirements and voice chat, and see how fast it will fall apart.

ChandraNalaar

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

Sigtric

People are complaining nonstop that DLC 4 man dungeons (ICP/WGT/CoS/RoM) should not be on the group finder because of the difficulty of getting them completed with a PUG and you want trials on it? Good luck with that.

Marabornwingrion

Deathissupreme wrote: »

Im end game done every dungeon but i cant do trials why because players are complete bull. Trials need to be put back on activity finder or revamped to be able to be done solo. So many bs players very little non bs players.

Find a guild, problem solved.

Deathissupreme wrote: »

Zos do the right thing and stop listening to the bs players listen to the ones like me who see the games flaws and confront you about them

You are not the only one player in this game and other people have rights to give their feedback about trial finder as well.

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[Edited for removed quoted comments and some minor baiting back]

drake88131

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

You can just pug normal trials in Craglorn.
If those groups are too "bs" for you, then group finder pugs will probably make you want to kill yourself, since they will be much worse. You'll get all kinds of bs - archers with 10k hp queuing as tanks, healers with no heals, etc. Maybe it wouldnt be too bad for normal Craglorn trials, but pugging for nHoF and nMoL via group finder wont be an enjoyable experience: dont forget that when you're queueing for normal dungeons, you'll probably end up with new players, sometimes even lvl s 10-15. Dont get me wrong, Im not trying to belittle those players, but mechanic-based dungeons are usually very stressful for them, and without any decent gear (or even second bar!) they arent prepared for trials.
Communication is another potential issue. When you join a /z pug, chances are that your group undestands English (French, German, Russian, etc), and if theyre stuck, you can at least try to explain the mechanics or help them. In grpup finder pugs, on the other hand, you can easily end up in a group that doesnt read the chat or a group where everyone speaks different languages.
They could add normal trials to group finder, but I doubt it would end well. Vet trials are out of question completely, because of obvious reasons - if you dont believe me, try to start /z pug with no requirements and voice chat, and see how fast it will fall apart.

Agree in part too. They would definitely need to roll out something that works other than just vet or norm. Parameters would need to be set (i.e. Champ minimums, class restrictions, etc). They r not competent enough and they know it I think.

bebynnag

Deathissupreme wrote: »

The next person to reply will be KochDerDamonen considering you all have somthing to do with each other as i predicted which was obvious people who already have the people they always run with decided to comment

but i dont know @Danksta or this Koch you speak of

im against the idea of a GF tool for trials - but would love to be able to solo them because i have severe social anxiety & eveybody hates me!

(TBC this post is supposed to be a joke - or rather me taking the *** out of myself i do not actually want to solo any of the trials other than vma)

ChandraNalaar

Deathissupreme wrote: »

Im end game done every dungeon but i cant do trials why because players are complete bull. Trials need to be put back on activity finder or revamped to be able to be done solo. So many bs players very little non bs players.

Also, I just realized I didn't address this. "Make trials so they can be done solo?" It's called vMA, and you can go do that whenever you want and you don't need a group finder to do it; trials are 12 man content and once again, demanding they be adjusted just to fit you personally isn't going to make it happen.

drake88131

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

OK!!!! I need a raiding guild that will take a 33k dps mag sorc that can o my play starting precisely at 11:15 pm CST without wait (kids and a job). Make it happen buddy!!!!

Sigtric

drake88131 wrote: »

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

OK!!!! I need a raiding guild that will take a 33k dps mag sorc that can o my play starting precisely at 11:15 pm CST without wait (kids and a job). Make it happen buddy!!!!

Nothing but you is stopping you from making your own trial guild and scheduling events.

ChandraNalaar

drake88131 wrote: »

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

OK!!!! I need a raiding guild that will take a 33k dps mag sorc that can o my play starting precisely at 11:15 pm CST without wait (kids and a job). Make it happen buddy!!!!

Aussie guilds come to mind; I don't know if Nightfighters is still around/recruiting but I remember seeing their forum post a while back. Look around for Australian or New Zealand raiding guilds since they usually run during our nighttime.

ChandraNalaar

Sigtric wrote: »

drake88131 wrote: »

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

OK!!!! I need a raiding guild that will take a 33k dps mag sorc that can o my play starting precisely at 11:15 pm CST without wait (kids and a job). Make it happen buddy!!!!

Nothing but you is stopping you from making your own trial guild and scheduling events.

That's another option as well.

Arkvoril

I agree with OP. I am in 5 Guilds and no matter how many you leave and join, always seems like they have set groups for the trails. I'm not hating but would be nice to have a Group Finder option for trials. It would only work I think if they put restrictions to getting in the group finder. I'm not sure what, maybe a really high CP count and complete certain amount of base game dungeons on VET or Norm.

I would like to see a Trial Group Finder.

LadyNalcarya

drake88131 wrote: »

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

OK!!!! I need a raiding guild that will take a 33k dps mag sorc that can o my play starting precisely at 11:15 pm CST without wait (kids and a job). Make it happen buddy!!!!

I dont think it'll work with this kind of attitude.
Other players arent here to entertain you and find groups for you. Check the guild recruitment subforum if you're interested in joining a raid guild.

Casual_Ranger

Ummm Y tho

Deathissupreme

Its not like it affects you since you have groups

Danksta

Deathissupreme wrote: »

Its not like it affects you since you have groups

It does affect us because when you go in a vet trial with your group finder group and get smoked by the first boss you'll end up crying for nerfs, and we don't want that. I already told you that when you responded to me on my wall instead of this thread.

Oompuh

1) Stop posting 12 comments in a row, really..

2) People in group finder cant even choose the right role (DPS as tank and healer) and you want to do a trial? Please. Join a guild like everyone else who raids

DaveMoeDee

Deathissupreme wrote: »

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How are you calling anyone else self-centered? You are spamming one sentence posts. Did you read what you posted?

Earn your way into the trials. If you want a group, try using social skills so people want you to succeed. There are guilds that invite people new to trials to regularly do practice runs, but if someone is a unpleasant, they aren't going to want to have them around. Stop trying to blame everything else (game design, guilds, other players) and make it happen.

How do you think everyone doing trials got to that point?

I say this as someone not doing trials, but who has been in guilds that regularly attempted them with newbie groups to learn them over time.

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Bazfaps

Step 1 go to crag
Step 2 ask in chat if theres any normal trial farms going on
Step 3 join group farm trials make friends with peeps in group.

This is how ive managed to get trial gear for all my toons so far.As long as you dont die every 5 sec and have decent gear and can play your class you'll generally always get invites again.At least from my experience this is how its been.

LadyNalcarya

You know, OP, it doesnt look like its games problem that you cant find a group. Spamming and blaming other players wont get you anywhere. If I was a raid leader, I wouldnt invite a person who acts like this.
Have you tried, idk, using social skills like the rest of us? Believe me, its really beneficial both in gaming and real life. Because even in another game, organized groups are more succesful that random pugs, and the most difficult content isnt really puggable at all.

MattT1988

Holy comment chain batman! Expect a warning
from the mods soon OP, they frown upon spamming comments. Ball it up into one post.

Back on topic, the idea is worth exploring but only for normal trials. Providing the pugs keep the whinging to a minimum if a random group goes horribly wrong, we really don't need these things nerfed anymore then they already are.

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

drake88131 wrote: »

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Do you really think the trials group finder would work any better than the group finders we have now? On top of that, starting your post off with a note that you refuse to listen to any comments from people who you *think* have completed trials before isn't a great way to get a discussion going. If this was just another complaint thread, then you're doing a bang-up job of it, sir. I don't think the trials group finder would be as magical as you think. Dungeons can be challenging enough on vet with a pug group, let alone a vet trials that has twelve people who have to communicate and coordinate. The chances of finding 11 other people in a random group finder who are good enough to do a vet trial with no communication, and with some people who haven't completed the content before (such as yourself) is not that high. I'd agree with @Danksta and say to look either on the forums or in-game for a raiding guild. There are plenty of them out there and available, with many guilds who are willing and able to teach new raiders how to do vet trials. This post demanding a pug finder for trials while insulting everybody who completes them isn't the way to go about getting what you want, though...unless what you want is forum trolls and people to come in and tell you how you're wrong.

OK!!!! I need a raiding guild that will take a 33k dps mag sorc that can o my play starting precisely at 11:15 pm CST without wait (kids and a job). Make it happen buddy!!!!

Aussie guilds come to mind; I don't know if Nightfighters is still around/recruiting but I remember seeing their forum post a while back. Look around for Australian or New Zealand raiding guilds since they usually run during our nighttime.

He'd have to improve his attitude dramatically. I've seen his other posts and threads on this site and quite frankly, the Aussie guilds I know won't put up with his attitude for long.

Agalloch

A queue for Normal Trials would be awesome ( after they fix the bugs of the group finder of course ) !