Changes to Weapon Traits

Megabear

Sharpened/Defending = Nerfed by 46.66%!!
Prosperous = Changed to regen Health/Magicka/Stamina!!
Charged, Intricate, Oranate, Training = No changes
All other traits = Buffed, Nirnhorned possibly the new meta for DPS

"Similar to how Mundus Stones were changed, Weapon Trait values have also been rebalanced with a focus on improving overall diversity. Almost all Weapon Traits were buffed, with the exception of Sharpened and Defending which were nerfed due to them over-performing. They should still remain one of the strongest options for increasing your damage or survivability, but now the power difference between them and other traits is no longer so massive. Prosperous was completely re-designed to grant a new combat function and will be an interesting choice for builds seeking to maximize resource recovery gains. Pairing the Divines trait with a recovery Mundus Stone will grant more recovery for that particular stat, but Prosperous will grant more recovery overall.

Adjusted the values and bonuses of most Weapon Traits in the following ways, with the listed values being for Two-Handed, gold-quality items:

Decisive: Increased the chance to generate one additional Ultimate to 40% from 34%.
Defending: Reduced the Spell and Physical Resistance granted to 2752 from 5160.
Infused: Increased the bonus value granted to the applied enchantment to 30% from 20%, and increased the cooldown reduction to the applied enchantment to 50% from 40%.
Nirnhorned: Increased the bonus to the weapon’s damage to 15% from 11%.
Powered: Increased the bonus to healing done to 9% from 7%.
Precise: Increased the Critical Strike Chance granted to 9% from 7%.
Sharpened: Reduced the Spell and Physical Penetration granted to 2752 from 5160.
Charged, Intricate, Ornate, and Training remain unchanged.
The Prosperous Armor Trait has been re-designed to give it a combat function. It now grants 11 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery as a gold-quality item, instead of gold gain.
Reduced the damage on the Damage Health (Oblivion) weapon enchantment by approximately 6%.
Weapon enchantments will no longer proc if the initial attack is dodged."

Dymence

Nirnhoned definitely won't be the meta for DPS, the bonus it gives you is rather insignificant (200 spell/weapon dmg) when compared to other traits such as sharpened and precise still.

Megabear

Dymence wrote: »

Nirnhoned definitely won't be the meta for DPS, the bonus it gives you is rather insignificant (200 spell/weapon dmg) when compared to other traits such as sharpened and precise still.

Wow, penetration is that good? Anyway I guess Precise will be much more popular now..

redshirt_49

Good to see, I guess. Any buff to crit makes me happy and even happier that I made this smart investment long ago and have precise gold items stocked x)

Izaki

For magicka: the BiS trait and mundus will most likely be Precise and Lover respectively with a few more CP into penetration.

For stamina: the BiS trait and mundus will definitely be Infused/Precise and Lover with a few more CP into penetration.

Jiandao

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

For magicka: the BiS trait and mundus will most likely be Precise and Lover respectively with a few more CP into penetration.

For stamina: the BiS trait and mundus will definitely be Infused/Precise and Lover with a few more CP into penetration.

I'm not sure about the stamina part. I think sharpened will still be best for dps with a few more CP points in penetration. Particularly in PvP.

The reason I think this is because the crit on armour is being buffed by 55% so stam dps will get their crit from that.

The changes just mean that traits other than sharpened are not completely unusable.

I've not done any maths on it so could be wrong.

Megabear

Jiandao wrote: »

The reason I think this is because the crit on armour is being buffed by 55% so stam dps will get their crit from that.

What do you mean by this? I may have missed something in the patch notes since I'm not done reading it just yet.

Nifty2g

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

For magicka: the BiS trait and mundus will most likely be Precise and Lover respectively with a few more CP into penetration.

I don't see how, they are essentially the same, except with thief you get bonuses to divines trait more so than you would with lover cause percentage based increases are more than flat value.

meatboll

they nerfed sharpened, this means my 3 vma inferno sharpened is dead.

Megabear

meatboll wrote: »

they nerfed sharpened, this means my 3 vma inferno sharpened is dead.

But those Mastic mats.

PS4_ZeColmeia

Rofl I was initially sad about my sharp spinners inferno staff getting nerfed then I realized this is now the best set and the best trait in it. I
I'm happy again.

DRXHarbinger

Is it me or is all this immensely club fisted for what is supposedly a dungeon dlc? There are more significant changes in this than Morrowind or Orsinium. Quite lost trying to find their logic.

Wtb expansion that stops *** about with all my gear and stats.

SameMeteor26

Megabear wrote: »

Sharpened/Defending = Nerfed by 46.66%!!
Prosperous = Changed to regen Health/Magicka/Stamina!!
Charged, Intricate, Oranate, Training = No changes
All other traits = Buffed, Nirnhorned possibly the new meta for DPS

"Similar to how Mundus Stones were changed, Weapon Trait values have also been rebalanced with a focus on improving overall diversity. Almost all Weapon Traits were buffed, with the exception of Sharpened and Defending which were nerfed due to them over-performing. They should still remain one of the strongest options for increasing your damage or survivability, but now the power difference between them and other traits is no longer so massive. Prosperous was completely re-designed to grant a new combat function and will be an interesting choice for builds seeking to maximize resource recovery gains. Pairing the Divines trait with a recovery Mundus Stone will grant more recovery for that particular stat, but Prosperous will grant more recovery overall.

Adjusted the values and bonuses of most Weapon Traits in the following ways, with the listed values being for Two-Handed, gold-quality items:

Decisive: Increased the chance to generate one additional Ultimate to 40% from 34%.
Defending: Reduced the Spell and Physical Resistance granted to 2752 from 5160.
Infused: Increased the bonus value granted to the applied enchantment to 30% from 20%, and increased the cooldown reduction to the applied enchantment to 50% from 40%.
Nirnhorned: Increased the bonus to the weapon’s damage to 15% from 11%.
Powered: Increased the bonus to healing done to 9% from 7%.
Precise: Increased the Critical Strike Chance granted to 9% from 7%.
Sharpened: Reduced the Spell and Physical Penetration granted to 2752 from 5160.
Charged, Intricate, Ornate, and Training remain unchanged.
The Prosperous Armor Trait has been re-designed to give it a combat function. It now grants 11 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery as a gold-quality item, instead of gold gain.
Reduced the damage on the Damage Health (Oblivion) weapon enchantment by approximately 6%.
Weapon enchantments will no longer proc if the initial attack is dodged."

Where do you see these changes. Are the changes up for the upcoming update or patch?

Jiandao

Megabear wrote: »

Jiandao wrote: »

The reason I think this is because the crit on armour is being buffed by 55% so stam dps will get their crit from that.

What do you mean by this? I may have missed something in the patch notes since I'm not done reading it just yet.

Changes to armour set bonuses 1-4. One of which is a 55% buff to crit bonuses. Several others are being buffed too. Penetration (kragh) will be nerfed 22%.