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So ... Why is Falkreath a dungeon?

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Okay so we can see that the town of Falkreath is a dungeon now.

But what if they want to build the rest of the Falkreath Hold area around it? The map will be without its biggest city if they add the rest of the map.

Does this seem an odd decision to anyone else?
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  • mesmerizedish
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    The probably don't currently have plans to use the rest of the hold as an overland zone. If they do decide to do so in the future, they'll figure out a solution. It's really not that hard to imagine they'd just have a normal city that uses the same map and then a special instanced version for the dungeon.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Okay so we can see that the town of Falkreath is a dungeon now.

    But what if they want to build the rest of the Falkreath Hold area around it? The map will be without its biggest city if they add the rest of the map.

    Does this seem an odd decision to anyone else?

    Im curious how theyre going to tackle this when they go to expand Skyrim. Are they going to leave the city unreachable unless through the dungeon or will there be two instances of the dungeon. One during the Siege and one that is open world that you can walk in and out of at any time.
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  • Elsonso
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Okay so we can see that the town of Falkreath is a dungeon now.

    But what if they want to build the rest of the Falkreath Hold area around it? The map will be without its biggest city if they add the rest of the map.

    Does this seem an odd decision to anyone else?

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  • JD2013
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Okay so we can see that the town of Falkreath is a dungeon now.

    But what if they want to build the rest of the Falkreath Hold area around it? The map will be without its biggest city if they add the rest of the map.

    Does this seem an odd decision to anyone else?

    Im curious how theyre going to tackle this when they go to expand Skyrim. Are they going to leave the city unreachable unless through the dungeon or will there be two instances of the dungeon. One during the Siege and one that is open world that you can walk in and out of at any time.

    Exactly what I thought. They'll have to instance it maybe?

    It could be years before they add it but they'll have to get to it eventually, surely.
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  • TheNuminous1
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    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
  • Scyantific
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    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.

    inb4 the island of Artaeum is turned into a dungeon
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    I mean its not something new. We already have a bosmer town turned into a dungeon (City of Ash). If the design is nice, then why not. :)
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  • Tryxus
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    Maybe Helgen will be the go-to town when the Falkreath zone gets released?
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    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

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  • Sigtric
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    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

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  • TheNuminous1
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    Scyantific wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.

    inb4 the island of Artaeum is turned into a dungeon

    That post almost made me throw up
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    Scyantific wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.

    inb4 the island of Artaeum is turned into a dungeon

    Couldent it at least be a micro zone like hews bane and darkbrotherhood with spellcrafting as the main theme.
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    Why would you assume its the entire town under siege? They could easily just wall off one section for the dungeon with the rest being under control of the guard.
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

    This is funny because orcs are literally trash elves. (I'm not trying to start anything, that's just the actual origin of the orcs and I laughed)
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    josiahva wrote: »
    Why would you assume its the entire town under siege? They could easily just wall off one section for the dungeon with the rest being under control of the guard.

    Cause they watched the latest eso live and know that to not be true.
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

    This is funny because orcs are literally trash elves. (I'm not trying to start anything, that's just the actual origin of the orcs and I laughed)

    Orcs are goblins. Don't listen to their lies about how they're actually elves. They're barely a step up in intelligence from beastfolk (if even that).
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 7, 2017 9:01PM
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    Because Zeni decided that we just don't have enough Skyrim fanboys in eso yet
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  • Scyantific
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

    This is funny because orcs are literally trash elves. (I'm not trying to start anything, that's just the actual origin of the orcs and I laughed)

    Orcs are goblins. Don't listen to their lies about how they're actually elves. They're barely a step up in intelligence from beastfolk (if even that).

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    The DLC looks great.
    But yeah, it makes me a little sad that this means we'll almost certainly never get Falkreath as a non-dungeon location.
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    I mean its not something new. We already have a bosmer town turned into a dungeon (City of Ash). If the design is nice, then why not. :)
    Yes, Falckreach is an tiny town, no issue having an city wall and the gate is dungeon entrance.
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    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

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    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

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    Sigtric wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

    This is funny because orcs are literally trash elves. (I'm not trying to start anything, that's just the actual origin of the orcs and I laughed)

    Orcs smell like trash. Altmer are just trashy. The tree hobo cannibals too.

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  • Baconlad
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    Nah falk doesnt have to be the hub city, it may be the "hold city" but they can use a small unknown town for a hub in the zone. Could use it as part of the lore for the zone. They do have plans to fill in the map though, thats always been their intention, just not to do it too fast.

    I think this is accually a hint that they plan on making an overland place as well.

    They could also combine some of the other surrounding holds into one expansion as well. Give it a different name like "western skyrim" .
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

    This is funny because orcs are literally trash elves. (I'm not trying to start anything, that's just the actual origin of the orcs and I laughed)

    Orcs are goblins. Don't listen to their lies about how they're actually elves. They're barely a step up in intelligence from beastfolk (if even that).

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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Okay so we can see that the town of Falkreath is a dungeon now.

    But what if they want to build the rest of the Falkreath Hold area around it? The map will be without its biggest city if they add the rest of the map.

    Does this seem an odd decision to anyone else?

    They can still open up the area and having the dungeon as it is.

    The dungeon is like any other dungeon but it gives you the feeling of an open zone and a sige encounter. It doesn't mean the zone can't be added later with the design of the dungeon used as a basis. The dungeon will be a completely different individual instance seperated from the actual zone, but they will probably have the same route of design and textures for that specific part of the zone.
    Edited by makreth on July 8, 2017 12:26AM
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    zaria wrote: »
    I mean its not something new. We already have a bosmer town turned into a dungeon (City of Ash). If the design is nice, then why not. :)
    Yes, Falckreach is an tiny town, no issue having an city wall and the gate is dungeon entrance.

    I think the cart is the dungeon entrance if you look closely :)

    You don't just enter a zone, you enter the "open" dungeon if you would call that. Even the gate is part of the dungeon instance. Thus the blocked cart there at the begining creating a sort of wall-blocked passage.

    I find it a clever move and finally a "dungeon" out in the open. I'd like to see more of this sort in the future, Out in the open dungeons, but not in the place of true zones of course as you people thought.
    Edited by makreth on July 8, 2017 12:24AM
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    This is the best news ever. It means they have no plans to expand skyrim. Which means they can finally work on expanding the AD zones.
    Yes lawwdd. I'm so tired of all these EP/DC storylines. Give us a High-Elf chapter. After all, we are the most beautiful and the most powerful ones out of all races in Tamriel *sips tea*

    Don't fight this argument, or i will unleash my destro ult on you :kissing_heart:

    I'd rather see more orc stuff than trash elves honestly

    This is funny because orcs are literally trash elves. (I'm not trying to start anything, that's just the actual origin of the orcs and I laughed)

    Orcs are goblins. Don't listen to their lies about how they're actually elves. They're barely a step up in intelligence from beastfolk (if even that).

    Orcs were present on Tamriel already when the Altmer showed up on the summerset isles. Not sure if the whole Trinimac thing retconned that or if its meant to be intentionally contradictory.
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