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Absolute negative feed back and about the game.

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So i try to be as nice as posibel, but i dont have patient anymore. (so sorry for my behaviour) This whole thing happens on EU Mega server.

First you broke the whole Que procces in random dungeon finder including specific fidners pluss battle ground,
Now when we fianly get in to a random dungeon everybody in the group just got DC and the whole isnatnces are reseted.

You are a provider and i paying for your services, i dont care about your development hard times

i am so sorry to beeing rude but you are just acting like everything is so fine all around the game, yet you got our money, and your excuses are poor, your job is not worthy of the title of Elder Scrolls. I am so fustrated right now

The game is lagging constantly the latency issues are dreadful even with 1gig download and 500 mega upload speed.
The frame drops are making me sick too. My pc is 6X beter then the asked system requriments.

I dont know what cosuing these problems, but it must be fixed. or remove the whole concept of the dungeon and batteground system including que's and lock dungeon requiered quests, till you find out what went wrong, take your time, dive in to the source codes, chek the scripts, look in to the engine too if you must, and please Fix it.

i dont know when did the dungeon system came out all i know is that when Morrowind arrived way toomany thing have been broked down. Core functions wich is a must have feature in mmorpg. You have very source to fix this issues, yet another came back, it is just like SWTOR they use Hero Engine and this is exactly what happen with them all the time, they patch something or update the game realiseing something and another thing goes to break down.

I know in fact that ESO is no longer using Hero Engine now, so i have no clue what couse these issues. All i want is fix these, and i want to enjoy the game with my friends becasue thats why i paying for you too as a customer.

Further issues, the ingame support is a disaster no real reactions from the support team at all in game. it is too imperson. It is like we are writing a ticket to a ghost. No real communications between players and employes. If you dont have the capacity to deal with everything faster, then invest in the support team, be more alive, like real persons. it is like talking to a robot, i wrote a ticket and i reciev an atuo generated e-mail, no in game communication with teh coustumers at all.

Thats all. thank you.

[edited for flaming]
Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 30, 2017 4:51PM
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  • Dracindo
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    If you're planning to leave, can I have your stuff, please?

    Thank you.
  • TheValar85
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    Dracindo wrote: »
    If you're planning to leave, can I have your stuff, please?

    Thank you.

    don't even dream about that :D I just given to my feed back so probably they can look up the problems and finaly fix them.
    Edited by TheValar85 on June 30, 2017 2:02PM
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  • makreth
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    OP, do you have dyslexia or are you doing that on purpose ? :sweat:
  • AzraelKrieg
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    makreth wrote: »
    OP, do you have dyslexia or are you doing that on purpose ? :sweat:

    English may not be their first language.
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  • TheValar85
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    makreth wrote: »
    OP, do you have dyslexia or are you doing that on purpose ? :sweat:

    English may not be their first language.

    No it is not and dylexia is a btw a reading issue. juts to clear up the fact. dysgraphy is the wrinting issue, but i dont have that too. So yes English is not ma natiev language.
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  • TheValar85
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    No one can have my stuffs because i will never going to leav the game unless it will colse their gate for ever.
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  • jircris11
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    Yet player another who does not know the first thing about making a game or running a mmo. People really need to stop telling the dev team to "go back to school" half the stuff you learn on the job since each game is coded different. I could go in to detail but I have done that before.

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 30, 2017 4:36PM
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  • idk
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    It's always entertaining to read rage posts.
  • idk
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    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »

    Dude. He's ESL. Probably has native tongue that's not Latin based either. Don't be a rude American.

    [minor edit to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 30, 2017 4:42PM
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    Dracindo wrote: »
    If you're planning to leave, can I have your stuff, please?

    Thank you.

    don't even dream about that :D I just given to my feed back so probably they can look up the problems and finaly fix them.

    Puh, good thing you did that with such polite manners. Probably they didn't know about these issues before. Thank you OP for this invaluable service to the community.
  • TheValar85
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    Dracindo wrote: »
    If you're planning to leave, can I have your stuff, please?

    Thank you.

    don't even dream about that :D I just given to my feed back so probably they can look up the problems and finaly fix them.

    Puh, good thing you did that with such polite manners. Probably they didn't know about these issues before. Thank you OP for this invaluable service to the community.

    why thank you at least i do something about that.
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  • makreth
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    makreth wrote: »
    OP, do you have dyslexia or are you doing that on purpose ? :sweat:

    English may not be their first language.

    No it is not and dylexia is a btw a reading issue. juts to clear up the fact. dysgraphy is the wrinting issue, but i dont have that too. So yes English is not ma natiev language.

    Dyslexia is not just a reading issue, it's also how one perceives what he hears it's more complicated than that and many times dysgraphy is included as a category.

    Dyslexia = Δυς + λέξις from ancient greek
    Δυς = something difficult
    λέξις=word

    Dysgraphy= Δυς + γραφή
    γραφή = writing
    Edited by makreth on June 30, 2017 2:58PM
  • TheValar85
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    makreth wrote: »
    TheValar85 wrote: »
    makreth wrote: »
    OP, do you have dyslexia or are you doing that on purpose ? :sweat:

    English may not be their first language.

    No it is not and dylexia is a btw a reading issue. juts to clear up the fact. dysgraphy is the wrinting issue, but i dont have that too. So yes English is not ma natiev language.

    Dyslexia is not just a reading issue, it's also how one perceives what he hears it's more complicated than that and many times dysgraphy is included as a category.

    Dyslexia = Δυς + λέξις from ancient greek
    Δυς = something difficult
    λέξις=word

    Dysgraphy= Δυς + γραφή
    γραφή = writing

    Well i can read perfectly so i dont have a problem with that. My issue with english grammar because my languge dosent use12+2 tenses.
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  • Riptide
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    OP - I don't know why, but the Quixote in me...some advise. Give up.

    By that I mean, you have to give up the idea that ESO can be anything like perfect.

    I know that it is frustrating. I've been here off and on from the start. I was in the alpha test, pre closed beta. Some of the things that aren't fixed yet we told them about way back when, probably two teams ago.

    Over time it has become clear that the team that is responsible for fixing things have almost no budget. It just is what it is.

    Some of the stuff that hasnt been fixed in years is maddening, but you won't get anything from posts on here. It won't "raise awareness"... we know. They know. It won't start a "movement". It just wastes your own time. Hopefully that is cathartic to you, but usually it isn't.

    Your best bet is to enjoy the parts of ESO that play well, and there are some. A lot even. Try to set aside the parts that don't, come back to them later. Play other games. Take it in stride. Laugh at it all.

    Good luck to you :)
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  • ZOS_CoriJ
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    We've had to remove quite a few comments from this thread. There's nothing wrong with negative feedback but let's keep the thread on topic and constructive.
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  • TheValar85
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    ZOS_CoriJ wrote: »
    We've had to remove quite a few comments from this thread. There's nothing wrong with negative feedback but let's keep the thread on topic and constructive.

    Thats why i opend it. thank you.

    I dont know to be hoenst how should thiese matters should be fixed. But these core elements in the game are mandatory if we are talking about an mmo. I know it is not easy and takes some times, to look up the issues in the engine, or in the scripts, reguardless of my out rage what i have done yesterday i truly want this game to become enyojable in group content wide.
    After all this game is made to play with each other.
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  • Crowzer
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    Dracindo wrote: »
    If you're planning to leave, can I have your stuff, please?

    Thank you.

    1/10.
  • BigES
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    ZOS_CoriJ wrote: »
    We've had to remove quite a few comments from this thread. There's nothing wrong with negative feedback but let's keep the thread on topic and constructive.

    @ZOS_CoriJ

    While its understandable that ZoS employees can't reply to every post, ZoS doesn't seem to EVER reply to negative feedback, even if its highly constructive. Negative feedback on these forums is like a comment box where your post goes into that comment box and then directly to a shredder. I only ever see dev responses to soft-ball questions.

    Who is compiling and digesting this stuff back at ZoS headquarters? I mean, you guys should have separate bins for this stuff, so you know where to focus the attention of the development team. For example, if 10,000 people made forum posts complaining about proc sets, then keep a running tally of the complaints about that issues so it's clear to the development team that they have an issue they need to solve.
  • Meld777
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    So i try to be as nice as posibel...

    Stopped reading at "posibel" :D
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  • old_mufasa
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    Funny the Op brings up the hero system in swtor.. the only thing is at least in swtor the LFG system worked from day one.. and lag wasn't really that bad.. the issue with the hero system was that the word was static.. and it was a limitation with the engine..

    but at least things like LFG system, pvp system worked..

    In fact almost every MMO I have played that had a LFG system the system worked from the start. as for a MMO the ability to group up with other players.. was a priority to have functional.
  • Malic
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    The problem the OP and a lot of people has is their particular claims dont seem to bare out beyond the narrow prism of their own self interest.

    Zenimax is now saying they have 10 million users across their platforms, and we ALL KNOW Firor would never lie. Even if he is mistaken or *gasp* misspoke half that number is formidable.

    Ive yet to see a clear articulation as to how it is when we see threads like the OP's we dont see MILLIONS MORE if this was a pervasive issue?

    The logical conclusion would have to be that infact it isnt, and we have YET ANOTHER thread displaying the selfishness of a vocal minority. Suppose for a minute that 1% of the 5mil player (again half of firors claim) 50,000 players have a similar issue, where are they?

    There doesnt seem to be more than 1000 posters on this forum, of which some are forum regulars with thousands of posts. The logical conclusion is your complaint is not relevant to the majority of the player base and any articulation that presents it in a macro fashion is not only false but dishonest and bordering sinister dependent on your intent.

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  • old_mufasa
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    Malic wrote: »
    The problem the OP and a lot of people has is their particular claims dont seem to bare out beyond the narrow prism of their own self interest.

    Zenimax is now saying they have 10 million users across their platforms, and we ALL KNOW Firor would never lie. Even if he is mistaken or *gasp* misspoke half that number is formidable.

    Ive yet to see a clear articulation as to how it is when we see threads like the OP's we dont see MILLIONS MORE if this was a pervasive issue?

    The logical conclusion would have to be that infact it isnt, and we have YET ANOTHER thread displaying the selfishness of a vocal minority. Suppose for a minute that 1% of the 5mil player (again half of firors claim) 50,000 players have a similar issue, where are they?

    There doesnt seem to be more than 1000 posters on this forum, of which some are forum regulars with thousands of posts. The logical conclusion is your complaint is not relevant to the majority of the player base and any articulation that presents it in a macro fashion is not only false but dishonest and bordering sinister dependent on your intent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd-Sa_3iBVA

    OH what a load of BS!!!

    There is no minority... there is not one person that I know at all in guild I'm In and a few are near cap that have no experienced the bugs with the LFG system.. or the lock ups and lag with the pvp.. its so common its a running joke about the game..

    If the 1000 plus players that 1 player know all have the same issue.. its not a minority. Then compound that with just 1000's of player complaining about in game as well as on the forums.

    It's the blind fanboyism that's more detrimental then anything..
  • ProfesseurFreder
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    Can't you people report an issue or a problem without dragging in all the melodrama and chest-beating?
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    old_mufasa wrote: »
    Funny the Op brings up the hero system in swtor.. the only thing is at least in swtor the LFG system worked from day one.. and lag wasn't really that bad.. the issue with the hero system was that the word was static.. and it was a limitation with the engine..

    but at least things like LFG system, pvp system worked..

    In fact almost every MMO I have played that had a LFG system the system worked from the start. as for a MMO the ability to group up with other players.. was a priority to have functional.
    Its also an fairly simple system, one of the few things in ESO I could made in an couple of days.
    You need an system generating an dungeon instance for group, this exist as you can enter manually and it always work.
    If an fully formed group queue it should either port group to selected dungeon or game select an random dungeon for group.
    You are however listed in the in dungeon list who exist for the reward and to find replacements.

    If you queue solo or in incomplete group, game scan list and tries to assemble an group.
    I would simply select the one who has waited longest first and tried to assemble an group for him, now if he say want to do vROM and its no healer, tank or DD for it or random veteran I go to the next in queue.
    Next want an random normal so I pick the next players in for any normal dungeon and qualify.
    If some don't react to the ready check they are removed from queue and is moved some slots back.
    Now the poor vROM guy in the middle of the night might get the group forming failed as the tank did not do an ready check and its no other qualified tanks, else he get the next one.

    Its an simple database issue.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • sadownik
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    @old_mufasa in the same way ESO has 10 mln players on 3 platforms, Gw2 has 7 mln players on one. So no, its not impressive at all and if you had any insight into MMO genre you would understand that 10 mln individual accounts its not much for AAA MMO with well known fantasy franchise sticked to it.

    Edited by sadownik on July 1, 2017 4:45PM
  • Drdeath20
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    Cyrodil is too easy to cheat.

    Your alliances population is soo big that you just create an alt in a different alliance and help your main alliance.
  • Tavore1138
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    Can't you people report an issue or a problem without dragging in all the melodrama and chest-beating?

    He said... melodramatically :)

    10 million accounts or box sales is not bad but what counts is how many of those accounts are active and playing enough to care about the problems that become infuriating when you play all the time - right now Steam reckon 11.5k players presumably across PC EU & NA.... even if that is as little as 10% of the PC audience then that's 115k PC users playing of several million boxes sold for PC.

    Obviously we can assume that number is constantly churning with some people playing an hour a week, some playing a couple of hours a day and some glued to the game from 10s of hours in a week.

    Unless you are playing a fair number of hours per week in content where performance and bugs matter then you will not care much... of those who care many will not care enough to post or will just stop playing and go elsewhere... of those who care enough to post many will not post here but will be on reddit or facebook or some other gaming site... so at the end of it all seeing a post here requires a lot of distillation of the users base first...
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  • Cocorocho
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    BigES wrote: »
    ZOS_CoriJ wrote: »
    We've had to remove quite a few comments from this thread. There's nothing wrong with negative feedback but let's keep the thread on topic and constructive.

    @ZOS_CoriJ

    While its understandable that ZoS employees can't reply to every post, ZoS doesn't seem to EVER reply to negative feedback, even if its highly constructive. Negative feedback on these forums is like a comment box where your post goes into that comment box and then directly to a shredder. I only ever see dev responses to soft-ball questions.

    Who is compiling and digesting this stuff back at ZoS headquarters? I mean, you guys should have separate bins for this stuff, so you know where to focus the attention of the development team. For example, if 10,000 people made forum posts complaining about proc sets, then keep a running tally of the complaints about that issues so it's clear to the development team that they have an issue they need to solve.

    There is a myth in these lands... scary beings they say, called community managers. They say only few people have seen them around.. its told they are like succubusses, they try to deceive you but in fact they can't... they are just liars that nobody believes

    thank god i don't write stories... i would suck bad
    Edited by Cocorocho on July 1, 2017 5:11PM
  • Davor
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    No one can have my stuffs because i will never going to leav the game unless it will colse their gate for ever.

    Not saying you are wrong here, but if you are "never going away" why would Zenimax bother fixing anything then? They know you will stay no matter what. That is like a spouse cheating on the other and not stopping since they know the spouse will not leave even if the cheating continues.

    So why fix anything if people still keep playing and buying?
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
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