Is Troll King Set good?

Sarato

Title says it all.

BigBragg

Great set. Both in PvE and PvP.

Flameheart

Not really for PvE, but maybe for PvP. Although many healers in PvP wear Pirate Skeleton.

In PvE healers who wear meta won't have a slot for 2 undaunted pieces just for one (which will be most likely a piece with + max magicka or magickareg) and for tanks there are definitely better choices. I could imagine it wearing a templar tank using ritual, but the healer should be able to heal the group while a tank should go for other things (ultireg etc.)

Sarato

BigBragg wrote: »

Great set. Both in PvE and PvP.

Flameheart wrote: »

Not really for PvE, but maybe for PvP. Although many healers in PvP wear Pirate Skeleton.

So which one of u is correct about PvE ;-; ...this is some valuable info

lolo_01b16_ESO

Well, depends on what you do in pve. I like it for fights where you have to heal people with strong healing debuffs, like vMoL hardmode.
But in general it's often more beneficial to use 2 5 piece sets and a master restro instead of a combination with a monsterset.

Sarato

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Well, depends on what you do in pve. I like it for fights where you have to heal people with strong healing debuffs, like vMoL hardmode.
But in general it's often more beneficial to use 2 5 piece sets and a master restro instead of a combination with a monsterset.

is it good for solo use PVE/PVP? the 2 item buff kind of throws me off.. and as for PvE I'm just looking not to die in pledges as a stamblade

Sheva I 7 I

Sarato wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Well, depends on what you do in pve. I like it for fights where you have to heal people with strong healing debuffs, like vMoL hardmode.
But in general it's often more beneficial to use 2 5 piece sets and a master restro instead of a combination with a monsterset.

is it good for solo use PVE/PVP? the 2 item buff kind of throws me off.. and as for PvE I'm just looking not to die in pledges as a stamblade

Helm: Troll KIng
Shoulder: Troll King
Chest: SPC
Rings: Mending x2
Amulet:Mending
Belt: Mending
Boots: SPC
Gloves: SPC
Legs: SPC
Resto Staff: SPC
Destro Staff: Mending Lighting Staff with Shock Enchant

There you go, have purify circle on front bar to proc mending

Flameheart

Sarato wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Well, depends on what you do in pve. I like it for fights where you have to heal people with strong healing debuffs, like vMoL hardmode.
But in general it's often more beneficial to use 2 5 piece sets and a master restro instead of a combination with a monsterset.

is it good for solo use PVE/PVP? the 2 item buff kind of throws me off.. and as for PvE I'm just looking not to die in pledges as a stamblade

For solo PvE it might be an option, but you need to proc it too. Most likely you will slot vigor then which leads to the question why need Troll King when you already slotted Vigor ?

I don't have an issue to not die in pledges with my stamblade, you can block and dodge and avoid a lot of stuff by just proper positioning or walking out. In some cases I just slot Vigor (being in the cave behind that boss in DS2 for example and killing spiders). As a Stamblade you are DD, there are far better options as troll King, Kragh and Velidreth for example.

As a Stamblade in PvP -> Selene + Viper any day. Gank before getting ganked.

Morgul667

Amazing set

IcyDeadPeople

Sheva I 7 I wrote: »

Sarato wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Well, depends on what you do in pve. I like it for fights where you have to heal people with strong healing debuffs, like vMoL hardmode.
But in general it's often more beneficial to use 2 5 piece sets and a master restro instead of a combination with a monsterset.

is it good for solo use PVE/PVP? the 2 item buff kind of throws me off.. and as for PvE I'm just looking not to die in pledges as a stamblade

Helm: Troll KIng
Shoulder: Troll King
Chest: SPC
Rings: Mending x2
Amulet:Mending
Belt: Mending
Boots: SPC
Gloves: SPC
Legs: SPC
Resto Staff: SPC
Destro Staff: Mending Lighting Staff with Shock Enchant

There you go, have purify circle on front bar to proc mending

Somehow I don't think this is going to work on a stamblade

fred4

It is very good for PvP, so much so that it is typically banned in duelling tournaments. I have used it both on stamina and magicka characters.

It can fill in for other healing abilities, if you don't want to use a resto staff, or Rally, or your class does not have good healing skills, or you want to put other things on your bars.

Since it buffs health regen, it is unaffected by Battle Spirit, which cuts all other healing and damage in half, in PvP. It is also unaffected by Defile skills, such as the Nightblade ulti, Fassala's Guile set, Durok's Bane, and so on.

Unlike Malubeth, it kicks in reliably at 50% health, as long as you do some other healing. The best is to have some form of healing over time running, so it kicks in even if you get CCd. It then keeps going for 10 seconds, and can heal you back to full, especially in conjunction with a shield. Works on yourself and others that you heal.

It is particularly good for races and classes that buff health regen, such as Nord, Orc, Khajiit, and Nightblades. In that case it will buff your health regen into the 2K to 3K range.

Kay1

I don't like it and I only do PvP.

It's just up to preferences but for me is so easy to counter that set that I'm scared that If I use it and fight an opponent who also knows how to counter it I will be lost.

Sarato

fred4 wrote: »

It is very good for PvP, so much so that it is typically banned in duelling tournaments. I have used it both on stamina and magicka characters.

It can fill in for other healing abilities, if you don't want to use a resto staff, or Rally, or your class does not have good healing skills, or you want to put other things on your bars.

Since it buffs health regen, it is unaffected by Battle Spirit, which cuts all other healing and damage in half, in PvP. It is also unaffected by Defile skills, such as the Nightblade ulti, Fassala's Guile set, Durok's Bane, and so on.

Unlike Malubeth, it kicks in reliably at 50% health, as long as you do some other healing. The best is to have some form of healing over time running, so it kicks in even if you get CCd. It then keeps going for 10 seconds, and can heal you back to full, especially in conjunction with a shield. Works on yourself and others that you heal.

It is particularly good for races and classes that buff health regen, such as Nord, Orc, Khajiit, and Nightblades. In that case it will buff your health regen into the 2K to 3K range.

THANK YOU DUDE!

Sarato

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Sheva I 7 I wrote: »

Sarato wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Well, depends on what you do in pve. I like it for fights where you have to heal people with strong healing debuffs, like vMoL hardmode.
But in general it's often more beneficial to use 2 5 piece sets and a master restro instead of a combination with a monsterset.

is it good for solo use PVE/PVP? the 2 item buff kind of throws me off.. and as for PvE I'm just looking not to die in pledges as a stamblade

Helm: Troll KIng
Shoulder: Troll King
Chest: SPC
Rings: Mending x2
Amulet:Mending
Belt: Mending
Boots: SPC
Gloves: SPC
Legs: SPC
Resto Staff: SPC
Destro Staff: Mending Lighting Staff with Shock Enchant

There you go, have purify circle on front bar to proc mending

Somehow I don't think this is going to work on a stamblade

No it will, running the build rn, kill counter says my kills are 22 and my deaths are 98!!

Thogard

If you're playing against good PvPers, they'll have major defile up on you 80-90% of the time, with the goal of 100% uptime.

Major defile does not affect the healing received from troll king, since the TK health is health regeneration, not a heal.

If you're playing against bad players who dont use defile, then you can usually just use your standard heals (vigor/rally/whatever) and a dmg oriented 2 piece.

If you're a DK, make sure you put draconic power abilities on your bars for that passive increase to health regen per DP skill slotted.

Lord_Eomer

This set can only be effective if you are stacking lot of health recovery like 4-5k

With new cp passive, your light attack can reduce opponent player recovery. I do not think this set is good, many other sets including 1 piece mag recovery + kena 1 piece is a good choice

acw37162

Exceptionally if built right.

Very underwhelming if your thinking of slapping this bad boy on a stage 4 vampire.

Buffler

If you wear beekeeper, ogrums scales and troll king in pvp you are disgusting.

Qbiken

Buffler wrote: »

If you wear beekeeper, ogrums scales and troll king in pvp you are disgusting.

Can´t kill anything though xD

fred4

To say that other monster sets are categorically better is a bit silly. Yes, on a stamblade you may aim to burst people, and thus prefer Selene / Velidreth. I meet people who do exactly that. They don't heal, but they do such tremendous damage that they aim to overwhelm you and healing is not necessary.

For all other cases, healing has to come from somewhere. For my magicka characters, if I run Healing Ward, I don't run Troll King as well. Similarly, if I were to run Rally on a stamina character, I probably wouldn't run Troll King (Vigor is a given, either way). My personal thing is that I like Forward Momentum very much, for both magicka (yes!) and stamina characters. This means I don't have Rally, nor may I have a resto staff. For those builds Troll King fills in a gap, thus I'm glad it exists.

To imply that it's only useful when stacking health recovery is equally silly. In fact, I tried Orgnum's Scales in the past (and Willow's Path for that matter) and didn't find it a good set, because it's effect stops at 60%, whereas Troll King keeps it's HOT going for 10 seconds. You will need more than Troll King alone for defense, and could of course stack more health recovery, but equally you can stack other heals or mitigation. The latter makes more sense, IMO. Stacking more health regen with sets like Orgnum's, Willow's or Beekeeper can make you well-nigh unkillable 1v1, but isn't a good strategy for killing anything yourself, nor for tanking multiple opponents. In PvE, also, blocking and plain mitigation (heavy armor) ultimately trumps health regen.

Mephisto939

For a straight pvp healer, it is awesome. Deltia swears by it. I wouldn't wear it on anything but a healer though.

Floki_Vilgerdarson

Troll King stopped working for me so I changed. PVP

After someone made a video showing how a vampire templar can live forever with Troll King it received a nerf.

It is junk now.

fred4

It is not suitable for vampires, because vampires nerf health regen.

LuminaLilly

It's called the "troll" king for a reason. Become a healbot who never dies. Stack this on top of blessed and viola.

leepalmer95

Its an OP set.

And orc with a tri pot up gets 3k~ regen with it. You can't debuff hp regen.

KingYogi415

No it's trash,

Forget about it!

Floki_Vilgerdarson

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Its an OP set.

And orc with a tri pot up gets 3k~ regen with it. You can't debuff hp regen.

Are you joking? Do you know what defile means? There are two cp trees that stop regen and tons of skills and enchantments that destroy health regen.

In pvp health regen does not get reduced like shields and healing, but there are many ways to "debuff" or destroy health regen my padawan.

Love,

Floki

leepalmer95

Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Its an OP set.

And orc with a tri pot up gets 3k~ regen with it. You can't debuff hp regen.

Are you joking? Do you know what defile means? There are two cp trees that stop regen and tons of skills and enchantments that destroy health regen.

In pvp health regen does not get reduced like shields and healing, but there are many ways to "debuff" or destroy health regen my padawan.

Love,

Floki

Teach me some ways someone is gonna reduce my hp regen noticeably?

Floki_Vilgerdarson

fred4 wrote: »

It is not suitable for vampires, because vampires nerf health regen.

That is the point, get health regen while in mist form since you cannot receive healing in mist form and stage 4 vampires don't regen enough to heal fast enough.

Like I said above I rocked a regen vampire in pvp. It was good, then it stopped working as intended.

Love,

Floki

leepalmer95

Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

It is not suitable for vampires, because vampires nerf health regen.

That is the point, get health regen while in mist form since you cannot receive healing in mist form and stage 4 vampires don't regen enough to heal fast enough.

Like I said above I rocked a regen vampire in pvp. It was good, then it stopped working as intended.

Love,

Floki

Why would you use vamp with troll king...

GreenSoup2HoT

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

It is not suitable for vampires, because vampires nerf health regen.

That is the point, get health regen while in mist form since you cannot receive healing in mist form and stage 4 vampires don't regen enough to heal fast enough.

Like I said above I rocked a regen vampire in pvp. It was good, then it stopped working as intended.

Love,

Floki

Why would you use vamp with troll king...

Remember when vampires got all passives regardless of stage? Then you could technically be a vampire and still have hp regen if you feed every 30 minutes. Floki is probably talking about that. Floki then states it stopped working as intended maybe pointing out how zos changed the stages to some terrible plain model where feeding became pointless in pvp (sadface).

In the current patch, i don't see why you would ever consider hp regen as a vampire.