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Has Anyone Heard About the Queue Exploit?
Ch4mpTW
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So supposedly it is possible to queue for 1 alliance, even though you're part of another. And therefore increasing the queue/wait times for people of the alliance the exploiters are queuing for.
This has been something I've overheard being discussed numerous times on PS4-NA, and is the reason why it takes so long to join into Cyrodiil from the AD alliance. I also personally witnessed this for myself, as it seemed that there were little to no people on for the AD side. Yet tons upon tons of EP and DC. I had also overheard people in Cyrodiil 1 day in zone chat discussing how they're going to lock DC's side, for doing it to us so much.
Is this an actual thing, and if so why has something so serious like this been overlooked? Just like how you can activate Eye of the Storm, cloak, and have the entire AoE completely hidden while you're cloaked. WTF is this? Lol. I know there are all sorts of cheesy things occurring in Cyrodiil, but damn. People are taking things to an all new low.
This has been something I've overheard being discussed numerous times on PS4-NA, and is the reason why it takes so long to join into Cyrodiil from the AD alliance. I also personally witnessed this for myself, as it seemed that there were little to no people on for the AD side. Yet tons upon tons of EP and DC. I had also overheard people in Cyrodiil 1 day in zone chat discussing how they're going to lock DC's side, for doing it to us so much.
Is this an actual thing, and if so why has something so serious like this been overlooked? Just like how you can activate Eye of the Storm, cloak, and have the entire AoE completely hidden while you're cloaked. WTF is this? Lol. I know there are all sorts of cheesy things occurring in Cyrodiil, but damn. People are taking things to an all new low.
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Balsagna✭✭✭✭What happens when you queue, I am unfamiliar with this que thing you speak of.Edited by Balsagna on June 25, 2017 12:05AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
A red group leader can form a group of yellow buddies and queue them into Cyrodiil and the number queued counts against the red population just as an example. I imagine all alliances some may be abusing this. They are working on a fix or so they said.
@ZOS_GinaBruno Hey Gina, any word on this? Thanks.Edited by TequilaFire on June 25, 2017 12:11AM11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
A red group leader can form a group of yellow buddies and queue them into Cyrodiil and the number queued counts against the red population just as an example. I imagine all alliances some may be abusing this. They are working on a fix or so they said.
I knew it! So there is/was something fishy going on. Because there are far too many talks of how this and that person's group is locking that and this alliance's queue, and so on. And since Cyrodiil is all about power in numbers, it would make sense that people are exploiting this to gain unfair advantages over other alliances.
Smfh. Anything to have an advantage in a video game, I see...
Any word on win this is getting fixed, devs? Especially considering you made ONLY ONE champion point campaign accessible Morrowind... Makes sense now why I have read in a few guild chats that for them to get in, they have to sit through a 400-600 queue to get into Vivec. Yet while I was in Vivec, I saw much less yellows to reds or blues. =_= @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambertEdited by Ch4mpTW on June 25, 2017 12:20AM2 -
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✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
Since when can you switch Alliances?
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✭✭thatlaurachick wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
Since when can you switch Alliances?
they ment switching characters which are in the other alliancePLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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✭✭✭✭✭The fix would have to allow mixed grouping for PvE but not for Cyrodiil.
You know how all things grouping goes.
Frankly I wouldn't mind if you could not take a group into Cyro would stop zergs to the rescue some too.Edited by TequilaFire on June 25, 2017 12:23AM3 -
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✭TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
A red group leader can form a group of yellow buddies and queue them into Cyrodiil and the number queued counts against the red population just as an example. I imagine all alliances some may be abusing this. They are working on a fix or so they said.
I knew it! So there is/was something fishy going on. Because there are far too many talks of how this and that person's group is locking that and this alliance's queue, and so on. And since Cyrodiil is all about power in numbers, it would make sense that people are exploiting this to gain unfair advantages over other alliances.
Smfh. Anything to have an advantage in a video game, I see...
Any word on win this is getting fixed, devs? Especially considering you made ONLY ONE champion point campaign accessible Morrowind... Makes sense now why I have read in a few guild chats that for them to get in, they have to sit through a 400-600 queue to get into Vivec. Yet while I was in Vivec, I saw much less yellows to reds or blues. =_= @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert
They are Not trying to exploit bigger numbers or lock another alliances queue.
They just use this to work around the queue and get faster into pvp.
The number of people Inside Cyrodiil wont be different in the long Run, aber as people constantly join and leave.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thatlaurachick wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
Since when can you switch Alliances?
Used to be, when you committed a character to a campaign, you could only assign other characters to the campaign if they had the same alliance.
For example, if you assigned a Covenant character to Azura's Star, you couldn't then also assign a Dominion character or a Pact character, but you could assign more Covenant characters. When the campaigns were seriously cut down, it changed so you could assign any alliance to a campaign simultaneously.3 -
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✭thatlaurachick wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
Since when can you switch Alliances?
Since.. forever.. launch.. I have had characters in AD, DC and EP.. so. I can get on my AD.. with a bunch of my buds, and queue for.. but never accept, invites to the AD Cyrodiil.... Interesting.. never thought of that..Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
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dmar613✭✭✭Yes this is known by devs, they said they would look into it bit it seems that they swept it under the rug. currently on xbox one in vivec camp the q is 106 for blue. less then a week ago the server was 3 bar yellow 0 other 2 alliances on average.
However, now it is three bar red three bar yellow and three bar blue. I know that there are some blue and some red that are really in the campagne, but compared to the yellow lol it is obvious. it is the same thing that the blue have done in shor when it is empty ealier in the day.
So to re iterate, in the am in vivec, yellow achieve poplock b4 other alliances and since their que gets long they start using other alliances to skip past waiting for their q and in return it counts as the faction that qued them in even though they yellow. with this being said the ava cyrodil has the potential to be estimated 550 yellows 25 red 25 blue the end.
Edited on my phone so snow flake can read lolEdited by dmar613 on June 25, 2017 11:53AM4th Grand Overlord For DC Xbox One. 123,486 pvp kills Crip from the Sexy Time Slayers aka Leaps of Dreamz1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭yes this is known by devs, they said they would look into it bit it seems that they swept it under the rug. currently on xbox one in vivec camp the q is 106 for blue. less then a week ago the server was 3 bar yellow 0 other 2 alliances on average.... however, now it is three bar red three bar yellow and three bar blue. I know that there are some blue and some red that are really in the campagne, but compared to the yellow lol it is obvious. it is the same thing that the blue have done in shor when it is empty ealier in the day.... so to re iterate, in the am in vivec... yellow achieve poplock b4 other alliances and since their que gets long they start using other alliances to skip past waiting for their q and in return it counts as the faction that qued them in even though they yellow. with this being said the ava cyrodil has the potential to be estimated 550 yellows 25 red 25 blue the end.
Capitals and punctuation are your friend, and mine too. I honestly can't even with this post. I have gathered that you're defending my statement in that something is going on, but outside of that? I'm completely lost for words.7 -
Glamdring✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
A red group leader can form a group of yellow buddies and queue them into Cyrodiil and the number queued counts against the red population just as an example. I imagine all alliances some may be abusing this. They are working on a fix or so they said.
I knew it! So there is/was something fishy going on. Because there are far too many talks of how this and that person's group is locking that and this alliance's queue, and so on. And since Cyrodiil is all about power in numbers, it would make sense that people are exploiting this to gain unfair advantages over other alliances.
Smfh. Anything to have an advantage in a video game, I see...
Any word on win this is getting fixed, devs? Especially considering you made ONLY ONE champion point campaign accessible Morrowind... Makes sense now why I have read in a few guild chats that for them to get in, they have to sit through a 400-600 queue to get into Vivec. Yet while I was in Vivec, I saw much less yellows to reds or blues. =_= @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert
They are Not trying to exploit bigger numbers or lock another alliances queue.
They just use this to work around the queue and get faster into pvp.
The number of people Inside Cyrodiil wont be different in the long Run, aber as people constantly join and leave.
Ofc it will be different that red group with 23 yellows in it will count towards reds population as long as they stay in cyrodiil. and if 3-4 groups do this it close to 100 players counted towards the opposing alliance. lol, u write as if this aint anything. This is a big exploit that totally determines who wins and loose.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Been a problem since One Tamriel and easy alliance switching.
A red group leader can form a group of yellow buddies and queue them into Cyrodiil and the number queued counts against the red population just as an example. I imagine all alliances some may be abusing this. They are working on a fix or so they said.
I knew it! So there is/was something fishy going on. Because there are far too many talks of how this and that person's group is locking that and this alliance's queue, and so on. And since Cyrodiil is all about power in numbers, it would make sense that people are exploiting this to gain unfair advantages over other alliances.
Smfh. Anything to have an advantage in a video game, I see...
Any word on win this is getting fixed, devs? Especially considering you made ONLY ONE champion point campaign accessible Morrowind... Makes sense now why I have read in a few guild chats that for them to get in, they have to sit through a 400-600 queue to get into Vivec. Yet while I was in Vivec, I saw much less yellows to reds or blues. =_= @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert
They are Not trying to exploit bigger numbers or lock another alliances queue.
They just use this to work around the queue and get faster into pvp.
The number of people Inside Cyrodiil wont be different in the long Run, aber as people constantly join and leave.
Ofc it will be different that red group with 23 yellows in it will count towards reds population as long as they stay in cyrodiil. and if 3-4 groups do this it close to 100 players counted towards the opposing alliance. lol, u write as if this aint anything. This is a big exploit that totally determines who wins and loose.
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✭✭✭✭✭Did ZoS ever comment on this ? I know they said they are looking into it but never read anything else .2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Did ZoS ever comment on this ? I know they said they are looking into it but never read anything else .
Facts! That's what I'm saying, bruh. I never saw anything about it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Did ZoS ever comment on this ? I know they said they are looking into it but never read anything else .
All ZOS said was that they are looking into it, then complete silence. In the past, that means they found a problem but there is no easy fix, so it will go on for months with only half hearted attempts to fix it.
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Did ZoS ever comment on this ? I know they said they are looking into it but never read anything else .
All ZOS said was that they are looking into it, then complete silence. In the past, that means they found a problem but there is no easy fix, so it will go on for months with only half hearted attempts to fix it.
@Ackwalan Damn... So for once, I think it is truly fair enough to say that PvP is truly broken. With something that is so dangerous (yes this is a huge problem, that can snowball much worse than it already is) running wild, we could have a situation on our hands where entire campaign victors are decided entirely on who can lock who up the most. This is nightmare fuel on steroids, and ZOS thought alliances working together for double AP was bad. Pfffft! I can only imagine how bad things are going to get, if this goes on for a few more weeks. Especially with PS4 having only 1 champion point campaign for all those players to pile into. Lag and all.Edited by Ch4mpTW on June 25, 2017 4:32AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I never even heard of this glitch!
The severity of this issue is very clear. With that said, don't expect a fix....3 -
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✭Has anyone actually tested if the people queued through a foreign faction group count towards that faction even when they have entered Cyrodiil? Or is this just an educated guess based on population imbalances?PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Has anyone actually tested if the people queued through a foreign faction group count towards that faction even when they have entered Cyrodiil? Or is this just an educated guess based on population imbalances?
Some players reported testing it and confirmed results allegedly to ZoS . ZoS responded they are investigating and never spoke after on it . I have no idea and would like ZoS to say before speculating and just hear their findings .3 -
grim_tactics✭✭✭✭✭Am I reading this right that this glitch is --
If I'm AD and the queue time is crazy long - I could queue with a group that's a different alliance, get thrown in and even though I'm thrown on the AD side it counts towards the other factions player count?
Just want to make sure I'm reading this right or not. Played PvP a lot but haven't heard of this.2 -
Bringer✭✭✭whats even the point of letting people queue as a group for cyrodiil? just make them enter solo and group up once inside5
