Ideally, premades should only face other premades, but there is no way.

nCats

Nothing much to say here, other than, say in some wargames like World of Tanks (duh), it seems like they don't allow a 3 man squad without a counterbalance on the enemy side. However, there you have like 15 vs 15 (if I'm not mistaken).

In current state, one or even two coordinated players can do little against a premade of four (which includes often a dedicated healer, a sorc kstealer, a procblade and your free spot) of same skill level. Of course at the current moment premades are punished by the broken queue time, but when this is hopefully sorted out...

What is worse, I do not see how to solve the problem. Make 4man fight only other 4man may ruin the queue for them indefinitely. One option would be to introduce a disctinct ``torunament'' mode 4v4 (with no third side), with disallowing 4premade vs random in normal queue. Any thoughts or ideas?

Waffennacht

I agree with you.

I think once BGs open up to everyone (something I heard that was being considered) there should be enough players to fill many different formats... I hope

Sharee

nCats wrote: »

Make 4man fight only other 4man may ruin the queue for them indefinitely.

Better ruin queue time than make non-premade players suffer, i say. I am playing the game for my own enjoyment, not to shorten someone's queues.

AnteCoyote

At the very least there should be a 1-49 only battleground queue. Allow them in the main queue so twinked out lowbies can still have their fun, but give new players an option to play with other lowbies. I can't imagine it's fun accomplishing nothing and getting stomped. The only place 90% of any lowbies are any use are in domination matches since numbers matter so much on flags.

j3crow

nCats wrote: »

Nothing much to say here, other than, say in some wargames like World of Tanks (duh), it seems like they don't allow a 3 man squad without a counterbalance on the enemy side. However, there you have like 15 vs 15 (if I'm not mistaken).

In current state, one or even two coordinated players can do little against a premade of four (which includes often a dedicated healer, a sorc kstealer, a procblade and your free spot) of same skill level. Of course at the current moment premades are punished by the broken queue time, but when this is hopefully sorted out...

What is worse, I do not see how to solve the problem. Make 4man fight only other 4man may ruin the queue for them indefinitely. One option would be to introduce a disctinct ``torunament'' mode 4v4 (with no third side), with disallowing 4premade vs random in normal queue. Any thoughts or ideas?

I agree completely. I am sick and tired of constantly running into premades. The premades vs PUG issue has literally killed small team PvP in other titles. You'd think ZoS would take a clue form that.

It wouldn't be so bad, but the current event requires completion of a BG victory for the achievement. Yeah, yeah I know "No one is forcing you to get the achievement".. But come on

Thogard

Make your own premade... if you want to do a 4v4v4, find 3 more people.. join a battleground guild..