This is what u done with PvP @Wrobel

Anethum

And, u cannot do anything with few such players, while they focusing u 2-4 vs 1

System is completly absurdly broken!
U gave these instruments to unfair exploiters and abusers of bugs or disbalance in eso.
Bad if newby use them instead of learning mechanics, and absolutly unfair when somene with good skills and knowledges using them.
See top list on deathmatches -they all are procset-users... And why I'm in rage now?

Qbiken

Where´s the Incap-strike though?

Turelus

Were you in a pre-made team OP, or was your group PUG (solo queue) ?

Anethum

solo

Anrose

Since you were outnumbered, did you try using Petrify or Dark Talons to even the odds?

OdinForge

It's "more interesting PvP" according to ZOS.

Get *** procced -zos

Zer0oo

You just have to life with that for 3-6 month till they try to "balance" things again. But don't worry they will make sure that something even worse will make it in.

Fake Remedy

@viau getting a mention of the official forums

Thelon

Rohamad_Ali

This is why no cp fails .

Sigtric

Come on! "proc sets are fun!"

bubbygink

I think I have viper in my death recap 90%+ of the time in BGs. It is insane. Also, I know people keep saying it doesn't double proc anymore but there are tons of times where I have back to back vipers from the same person. I don't know if this is just a visual glitch in my death recap or what. Had one the other day where the guy did a 3,414 viper and then right after did another 5,578 viper (so actually seemed like it double-procced AND crit). Took a screenshot of it but haven't edited out the names and don't want to get in trouble for naming an shaming. But has anybody else experienced this?

Ahzek

This thread gunna be edited/closed coz of naming and shaming soon (tm).

QuebraRegra

is it ok to name and shame WROBEL?

Asgari

It's ok, another player who doesn't realize the death recap is broken. It doesn't show the other items that hit you too and shows those procs as main attacks when in reality you probably got hit by something harder multiple times in there.

Trashkan

Proc sets do suck but for me they suck the most when I get an incapacitating strike with a viper proc and a selenes proc. But by the time I break free I am in a fear and by the time I'm out of it im dead. I would use a potion for immovable or somthing but i litterally cant.

Skinzz

Trashkan wrote: »

Proc sets do suck but for me they suck the most when I get an incapacitating strike with a viper proc and a selenes proc. But by the time I break free I am in a fear and by the time I'm out of it im dead. I would use a potion for immovable or somthing but i litterally cant.

I have the same problem. Doesn't help when we can't consume a potion unless were standing completely still. Freaking ridiculous.

ThePonzzz

Yeah, ViperGrounds are super fun with proc sets.

Glamdring

tell me how to

Trashkan wrote: »

Proc sets do suck but for me they suck the most when I get an incapacitating strike with a viper proc and a selenes proc. But by the time I break free I am in a fear and by the time I'm out of it im dead. I would use a potion for immovable or somthing but i litterally cant.

tell me how to fear someone that just breaked free. i never managed to do that.

Glamdring

And for you procchaters, yes i use em from time to time when the enemys desserves it. but i cant see how u die to em that much, yes if i get focused by multiple proccblades yes im dead 9 time out of 10. but a single proccblade jumping me is mostly a easy kill. u need to react to that first burst and defend yourself, u cant face it and expect to survive. and im a squichy medium armour guy. , block, roll, shield, pop a healthpot, there are many ways to counter it and burstheal to mitigate it.

Anethum

Asgari wrote: »

It's ok, another player who doesn't realize the death recap is broken. It doesn't show the other items that hit you too and shows those procs as main attacks when in reality you probably got hit by something harder multiple times in there.

Broken is if it shows damage which u didn't taken.
As u see from the numbers, damage is high mitigated. Mostly ppl take ~4k from Viper.
Problem is that these sets do bigger amount of damage even without crits, than u can do with any other setup with crits in non-cp pvp.
This damage is instant, it doesn't require skill, u can even just light atackin.
Overall burst will be enouch for zergin anyone.
Same problems were with sieges in non-vet cyrodiil, they were too overpowered in non-cp in previous patches, how they are now i'm not sure.

Beardimus

At least we ain't moaning about Sorcs any more

Trashkan

Glamdring wrote: »

tell me how to

Trashkan wrote: »

Proc sets do suck but for me they suck the most when I get an incapacitating strike with a viper proc and a selenes proc. But by the time I break free I am in a fear and by the time I'm out of it im dead. I would use a potion for immovable or somthing but i litterally cant.

tell me how to fear someone that just breaked free. i never managed to do that.

Not too sure how this works I don't think fear counts as a stun so when you get a incapacitating strike it stuns you then after you break free you get feared. If they are the same then it's just buggy.

Anethum

Beardimus wrote: »

At least we ain't moaning about Sorcs any more

On stamsorcs procsets work maybe most effective because of hurricane+surge.
U're wearing duals(+ or 2handed or shield on back bar), and spamming bloodthirst+blood craze+heavy atacks. Raw high damage, healing, lazy OP.
If to say about mage sorcs - hm, at first place on Deathmatch (EU server) sorcerer who uses set Red Mountain threw shielding and spamming weave crushing shock-light attack. Every 2 seconds instant procs...

Waffennacht

I

diplomatt wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

At least we ain't moaning about Sorcs any more

On stamsorcs procsets work maybe most effective because of hurricane+surge.
U're wearing duals(+ or 2handed or shield on back bar), and spamming bloodthirst+blood craze+heavy atacks. Raw high damage, healing, lazy OP.
If to say about mage sorcs - hm, at first place on Deathmatch (EU server) sorcerer who uses set Red Mountain threw shielding and spamming weave crushing shock-light attack. Every 2 seconds instant procs...

Well... I dunno about instant proc from just 2 things, like 20% chance. Still get your point but... He's probably on top more because of wrath than red Mountain

Zvorgin

Ahzek wrote: »

This thread gunna be edited/closed coz of naming and shaming soon (tm).

Disagree, don't think a single moderator comes into the sub forum.

olsborg

Proccs is the sole purpose that I get fed up with pvp for a night and log out. Well that and lagg. But wtf proccs should get ripped outta pvp, f cancer that wrobel tought was a good idea.

Anethum

Waffennacht wrote: »

I

diplomatt wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

At least we ain't moaning about Sorcs any more

On stamsorcs procsets work maybe most effective because of hurricane+surge.
U're wearing duals(+ or 2handed or shield on back bar), and spamming bloodthirst+blood craze+heavy atacks. Raw high damage, healing, lazy OP.
If to say about mage sorcs - hm, at first place on Deathmatch (EU server) sorcerer who uses set Red Mountain threw shielding and spamming weave crushing shock-light attack. Every 2 seconds instant procs...

Well... I dunno about instant proc from just 2 things, like 20% chance. Still get your point but... He's probably on top more because of wrath than red Mountain

Crushing shock counts by system as 3 hits+ light attack is 4th, so evety weave = 4 hits, on every of which u have 20% to proc RM. So...it really works every 2 seconds.
Mages wrach and emplozion ofc usefull to steal kills, but only if others bursts enouch to down health of target under 20%, or u have enouch burst potential...like this procburst.

LegendaryMage

Proc sets should not be allowed in PVP, period. Stacking multiple proc sets is absurdly OP.

It allows a player to run full sustain and tankiness while having his armor do the work. Someone smart enough from @Wrobel team please tell the guy to disable all this stuff in PVP, and the few vocal ones that will show up on the forums complaining about it, just ignore them.

Those few dozen proc users are costing you hundreds and hundreds of PVPers. I'm playing proc sets too, but in TES: Legends right now.

Fake Remedy

LegendaryMage wrote: »

Proc sets should not be allowed in PVP, period. Stacking multiple proc sets is absurdly OP.

It allows a player to run full sustain and tankiness while having his armor do the work. Someone smart enough from @Wrobel team please tell the guy to disable all this stuff in PVP, and the few vocal ones that will show up on the forums complaining about it, just ignore them.

Those few dozen proc users are costing you hundreds and hundreds of PVPers. I'm playing proc sets too, but in TES: Legends right now.

Proc sets & Gear, CP, Level Cap, Class & Skill, Race...just an ever growing stack of variables & combinations. I would say I started this game late so I'm putting it out there. If and when was the line crossed?

ChunkyCat

Fake Remedy wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

Proc sets should not be allowed in PVP, period. Stacking multiple proc sets is absurdly OP.

It allows a player to run full sustain and tankiness while having his armor do the work. Someone smart enough from @Wrobel team please tell the guy to disable all this stuff in PVP, and the few vocal ones that will show up on the forums complaining about it, just ignore them.

Those few dozen proc users are costing you hundreds and hundreds of PVPers. I'm playing proc sets too, but in TES: Legends right now.

Proc sets & Gear, CP, Level Cap, Class & Skill, Race...just an ever growing stack of variables & combinations. I would say I started this game late so I'm putting it out there. If and when was the line crossed?

The line was crossed when players found out they were being killed by players wearing the same armor set. If those players weren't wearing those armor sets, then the person who was killed would have survived instead.

In a few months, when proc sets are nerfed, a new line will be crossed when players start to realize that something new is killing them now. So they'll request that new thing be nerfed as well.