a tryhard person

Beardimus

Agree with Nestor on this. Anyone that says stuff like that just wait till they die and tea bag them. It will infuriate them, name calling moanings don't like it back. They hate them pixel bawls.

Bobby_V_Rockit

negative

I'd say its something like, having the appearance of following the meta, but not succeeding. As in "trying hard to emulate the best but failing".

Such as someone wearing a band t-shirt because it's deemed cool, but having no actual knowledge of the band or any of there music. Just like using the meta builds without knowing why or even how.

LukosCreyden

soll wrote: »

tryhards are:

...players, who ignoring meta and in purpose playing week class, week set up, avoiding cancer cheese builds so hard.
...some pvp'ers who are chasing certain players and only them, like they are their Joker for Batman.
...some players, who can't admit fail and will hit brick wall constantly, when clearly there is nothing can be done about.
... or just the ones who are following difficult ways to achieve anything.

can't call it "good" in anyway.

actually, a "try hard" is someone who rigorously humps the meta to the point that they will only play the best class / set up, even if they hate it, just because it is good.

Playing a weaker class or weaker set up because you like it / enjoy the playstyle is the exact opposite

Cadbury

Is it better to be a tryhard or a hipster? Asking for a friend.

LukosCreyden

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

The context in which I know this word clearly has a bad touch.
Most people I know use it to describe players that try to kill one tanky player and focus so much that they loose track of what's happening around them.
E.g. when you play ep and see an enemy templar outside arrius. You and our group attack him and chase him when he tries to get away. Just before you reach chalman, you manage to kill him. Then you figure out, that some other dc players successfully sieged arrius while you were busy tryharding that one templar.

ummm.... guilty.

I did this once, was doing a siege with the zerg and saw a templar try to slip off unnoticed. I had to chase it. However, I was the only one. What followed was an infuriating 15 minutes of me trying to kill this templar whilst they did literally nothing but spam BoL. No matter how quick my burst damage was, they always hung on, thanks to a healthy 10 skill slots of defensive skills (they weren't even using blazing shield). Unfortunately, they eventually kited me to "the bridge", where the friendly residents put the templar out of comission relatively quickly.

There was no satisfaction from that "victory". Lesson learned, I won't be doing it again.

Dracindo

negative

People use it in a negative tone, but that's like insulting a person for being rich.

Honestly, I take those as a compliment. It means that people can clearly see that I'm doing my best. I'm sorry to all those lazy magsorcs who are offended by my hard work and training.

Kram8ion

negative

Brush it off have fun and play on is the best thing to do and ignore the salty cry babies

Kram8ion

negative

Cadbury wrote: »

Is it better to be a tryhard or a hipster? Asking for a friend.

Lol that's a difficult one because they usually gather together in taverns

trompok13

positive

Anyone who uses the Tryhard word is crap at the any game is a fact, just letting you know.

Pele

negative

Tryhardery is not perseverance. Tryhardery is always negative and always fail. Perseverance is always positive and leads to success.

We've all met a tryhard in real life, and if you haven't then you're probably the tryhard. A tryhard IRL is that guy.

- That guy who tries so hard to please that it's annoying instead of helpful.
- That guy who tries so hard to fit in that it's desperate instead of cool.
- That guy who tries so hard to impress that it's pathetic instead of awesome.

A tryhard in a video game shares the same traits as IRL tryhards - annoying, desperate, pathetic. Because of this, they try so hard to win that they disregard common courtesy and common sense.

In ESO, the tryhard is...

- That guy who runs in out of nowhere and cuts you off just as you're about to harvest a node or treasure chest. Bonus tryhard points if they take it while you're fighting mobs on the chest or node, so you can harvest it.
- That guy who demands perfection from inexperienced players. Bonus tryhard points if they're in a pug.
- That guy who chases lowbies all over the map for easy epeen kills. Bonus tryhard points if their faction is losing stuff while they're doing this.
- That guy who links his legendary CP160 gear in starter zones. Bonus tryhard points if they linked it for absolutely no reason at all.

Bringer

Whats with all these disparate definitions?
A tryhard is someone who expends more energy than is required to do something when its either not needed or actually counterproductive.

Examples:
-Mall cops/security guards who take themselves too seriously.
-Using alchemy potions while farming AP in a zerg
-Wanting to go camping and buying thousands of dollars of survivalist gimmicks, dragging it to your public camping ground just one mile off the main road with electricity and wifi.
-Insisting everyone uses voice coms for some simple task, using the phonetic alphabet over crystal clear voip when you were never even in the military to start with.
-Standing around for hours trying to form the optimal group for something when you could have done it by now if you just took whatever random semi competent people happened to walk by


A skilled person appears effortless when doing their thing, making it look easy is an indication of ability.

A tryhard is always going to appear as if they are expending effort. Some will accomplish what they are doing, others wont, but both will have put a lot more effort into whatever it was than someone who actually knew what they were doing.

Gan Xing

negative

soll wrote: »

tryhards are:

...players, who ignoring meta and in purpose playing week class, week set up, avoiding cancer cheese builds so hard.
...some pvp'ers who are chasing certain players and only them, like they are their Joker for Batman.
...some players, who can't admit fail and will hit brick wall constantly, when clearly there is nothing can be done about.
... or just the ones who are following difficult ways to achieve anything.

can't call it "good" in anyway.

ignoring meta, playing a weak class, with an odd set up, avoiding cancer cheese builds = me

On another hand, I can more or less hold my own against the average player (i'd like to think)...

I wish i got more hate mail... I just need to play more

nckg84

It's what internet nerds say to others to compensate there lack of anything in real life. Same goes for tea bagging, it speaks volumes.

RebornV3x

negative

Its usually got a negative connotation a try hard can come in a few forms it either means your a no life elitist scumbag or someone that goes above and beyond just to make your co workers look bad

idk

Nestor wrote: »

Are you having fun OP? If the answer is yes, then screw what anyone else says about you.

If your running group content and holding back the group, then find a group that is willing to teach, learn from them and apply it. Then you can go back to saying screw it to those who insult you again.

Pretty much this is the attitude everyone should have. Ignore insults but also run with players with your interests and such.

DocFrost72

negative

Tryhard: (N) Description:

An individual that puts excessive effort into something that does not require intensive effort.

Example:

"Look, we're never going to clear this dungeon with a hybrid build. You need to be pulling 30k".

"Dude. It's nFG I. The tank can solo with light attacks-"

"Nah dude, it takes no effort to do 40k self buffed. No excuses and I shouldn't have to wait for some hybrid build pos".

Very much negative.

qbit

Only time I was called a “tryhard” was by a fake tank on a normal pug with his fake healer friend *** up the dungeon. When he insulted me to the group because I didn’t want to skip a boss (which I had to solo), I pointed out that I’m doing 70% of group DPS. He then called me a “tryhard”

So basically only idiots that are horrible people use the term. That’s my single data point. Your mileage may vary.

dazee

positive

Everyone should try hard. No reason not to. in no way will that guarantee success but it doesn't hurt and not trying will never bring success.

DocFrost72

negative

dazee wrote: »

Everyone should try hard. No reason not to. in no way will that guarantee success but it doesn't hurt and not trying will never bring success.

Respectfully, asking me to try hard is fine. Telling me I should try hard is not.

I'm not going to maintain my rotation in banish 1 normal. Sorry.

Chiefdrake

I think there's a difference between being a try-hard and being called a try-hard.

Like other people have said, being a try-hard is putting waaaaaaay too much time, resources, yadayada into your effort for success-- like an unhealthy amount.

Being called a try-hard, like others have also said, is a way of knocking you down because you were successful when someone else wasn't so they got angry and whipped out some top-tier school-yard insults.

If you're called it you can probably take it as a compliment-- means you succeeded.

Haquor

tonemd wrote: »

It's negative. The focus being the word "try".

It's not "succeedhard"

So trying is not comendable?

Waffennacht

negative

It's practically two years old

Kram8ion

negative

It's certainly not good
A "tryhard" is a person that has to try hard to get where the talented already are

generalmyrick

positive

Its a form of hate against people with talent and drive.