Leeching Strikes/Siphoning Attacks is now Crap

WhitePawPrints

The ability could probably double the resource return, and proc off of all damage then it'd be satisfactory.

My nightblades had their sustain plummet, even after I tried multiple sets to compensate. While my sorcerer still have no issue with sustain because of Dark Deal and Surge (no resources have to go toward healing!).

I've stripped my main nightblade, and haven't played him for weeks because of the significant nerfs on Stamina builds. I've only been playing magicka classes since Morrowind.

Izaki

leepalmer95 wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Nightblades were not OP

Stamina NB's need abit of nerfing and they've gotten it. But the nerf they've given NBs also effected us Magicka NBs too, which was already having a tough time before the nerf. Now the class is essentially pointless to play, outside of cloaking.

Why did stamina nb need nerfing when literally every other stamina class last patch was better?

Even this patch they aren't OP the procs sets are OP and go with them well. They still have the worst healing in the game.

The siphoning changes are so bad, what use is an 700~ heal in pvp that only works when attacking? When i need to heal i'm not attacking i'm rolling or cloaking. The heal is useless the resources it gives is so small, its a waste of a slot nowdays.

The whole point is to keep your health topped up while going offensive, which makes you less vulnerable to counter attacks.

And in PvE this skill is still pretty damn good in endgame. NBs have the best sustain out of all stamina classes with it

Rex-Umbra

NB impossible to tank with now.

Zach2322

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

NB impossible to tank with now.

It's not impossible, you just need to be creative on how to play. Look at my post on the first page.

max_only

See all these changes from last patch only benefit the top players. You can tell who is average to good by who is hurt by this nerf. The ones saying any form of nightblade was op before this trash change are the 1%. I don't twitch like a meth addict, I don't muscle train my hands and I don't spend time perfecting a weave when I could be having fun.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Its terrible compared to what it used to be sure. Its still just as powerful as the Warden Betty (which was somehow considered OP by everyone) except it also offers a HoT.

Also, Leeching Strikes and Siphoning Attacks both make the difference between having to do heavy attacks and being able to not do any heavy attacks at all. Sure its not as good as it used to be, but its still a very good skill.

That's a no cost power with a free resource return. I don't unlock the power after beta it's not worth the two points.

brandonv516

Made a post about SA acting strangely - maybe it's lag OR maybe the skill is underwhelming because its broken? You be the judge by taking a look:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/353555/whats-going-on-with-siphoning-attacks-video-inside#latest

leepalmer95

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Nightblades were not OP

Stamina NB's need abit of nerfing and they've gotten it. But the nerf they've given NBs also effected us Magicka NBs too, which was already having a tough time before the nerf. Now the class is essentially pointless to play, outside of cloaking.

Why did stamina nb need nerfing when literally every other stamina class last patch was better?

Even this patch they aren't OP the procs sets are OP and go with them well. They still have the worst healing in the game.

The siphoning changes are so bad, what use is an 700~ heal in pvp that only works when attacking? When i need to heal i'm not attacking i'm rolling or cloaking. The heal is useless the resources it gives is so small, its a waste of a slot nowdays.

The whole point is to keep your health topped up while going offensive, which makes you less vulnerable to counter attacks.

And in PvE this skill is still pretty damn good in endgame. NBs have the best sustain out of all stamina classes with it

Again what use is 700 heal per light attack? When im offensive im usually full.

Nb's are squishy if we take a hit we need to disengage, thats when healing counts.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

leepalmer95 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Nightblades were not OP

Stamina NB's need abit of nerfing and they've gotten it. But the nerf they've given NBs also effected us Magicka NBs too, which was already having a tough time before the nerf. Now the class is essentially pointless to play, outside of cloaking.

Why did stamina nb need nerfing when literally every other stamina class last patch was better?

Even this patch they aren't OP the procs sets are OP and go with them well. They still have the worst healing in the game.

The siphoning changes are so bad, what use is an 700~ heal in pvp that only works when attacking? When i need to heal i'm not attacking i'm rolling or cloaking. The heal is useless the resources it gives is so small, its a waste of a slot nowdays.

The whole point is to keep your health topped up while going offensive, which makes you less vulnerable to counter attacks.

And in PvE this skill is still pretty damn good in endgame. NBs have the best sustain out of all stamina classes with it

Again what use is 700 heal per light attack? When im offensive im usually full.

Nb's are squishy if we take a hit we need to disengage, thats when healing counts.

I completely agree that heal is a joke WOW Nightblades can use a good HoT that's not special or new a burst heal that would be nice. Not a HoT that turns to a burst heal after 10 seconds.

Also with Dark Deal being great before Morrowind and being unchanged it's now the best sustain power hands down.

SnubbS

leepalmer95 wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Nightblades were not OP

Stamina NB's need abit of nerfing and they've gotten it. But the nerf they've given NBs also effected us Magicka NBs too, which was already having a tough time before the nerf. Now the class is essentially pointless to play, outside of cloaking.

Why did stamina nb need nerfing when literally every other stamina class last patch was better?

Even this patch they aren't OP the procs sets are OP and go with them well. They still have the worst healing in the game.

The siphoning changes are so bad, what use is an 700~ heal in pvp that only works when attacking? When i need to heal i'm not attacking i'm rolling or cloaking. The heal is useless the resources it gives is so small, its a waste of a slot nowdays.

StamNB was better than StamDK last patch, and it's better this patch as well. I'm really tired of people saying Stamblade isn't a good class because unlike something like StamDK, it's actually challenging to play—there's noticeable skill-gap to it.

Challenging=/=Under-powered.

leepalmer95

SnubbS wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Nightblades were not OP

Stamina NB's need abit of nerfing and they've gotten it. But the nerf they've given NBs also effected us Magicka NBs too, which was already having a tough time before the nerf. Now the class is essentially pointless to play, outside of cloaking.

Why did stamina nb need nerfing when literally every other stamina class last patch was better?

Even this patch they aren't OP the procs sets are OP and go with them well. They still have the worst healing in the game.

The siphoning changes are so bad, what use is an 700~ heal in pvp that only works when attacking? When i need to heal i'm not attacking i'm rolling or cloaking. The heal is useless the resources it gives is so small, its a waste of a slot nowdays.

StamNB was better than StamDK last patch, and it's better this patch as well. I'm really tired of people saying Stamblade isn't a good class because unlike something like StamDK, it's actually challenging to play—there's noticeable skill-gap to it.

Challenging=/=Under-powered.

Lmao stam dk was top last patch. It had the best heals, comparable sustain to dark deal.

Stam dk's were running around in heavy with 600 regen and close to 4k wpn dmg when fully buffed with fury. They were the best class.

Stam nb isn't too hard to play either. What skill gap? You buff, you injection, you burst, you cloak repeat.

KingJ

1mirg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Nightblades were not OP

Stamina NB's need abit of nerfing and they've gotten it. But the nerf they've given NBs also effected us Magicka NBs too, which was already having a tough time before the nerf. Now the class is essentially pointless to play, outside of cloaking.

Stamblade needed nerfing how ?They were the third best Stam DPs.Worst dueling spec,Thrid best Stamdps open world have and no group utility how did they need nerfing?Only thing St am blade excel at is Ganking. NB are being called OP now because of proc sets when those are Nerf they are going to be behind other classes like they were before.

Elvenpath

use regen food drink dammit. its ok.