Opinion of ESO?

Doomsdire

Want to start by saying I'm still very new in ESO and only been playing for about 4 months now. Level 380, still learning and still a noob.

My opinion? I absolutely love it and enjoy it very much. The graphics are great and the gameplay is excellent....

It's absolutely amazing! Until........ until I finished almost all my quests and my brother finally brought me to Cyrodiil. Well I entered Cyrodiil and slowly discovered something just wasn't right here.

At first entering I thought WOW! Can this game get any better than this!?! but after a few weeks I started realizing Cyrodiil was majorly flawed. The balance between factions in one of the campaigns was being heavily manipulated and I'm not talking tipping the scale in battle honorably no..... Honestly at first I thought the faction on the bottom just wasn't doing very good but that wasn't it at all.... they were being controlled from the outside so the winning faction could stay in the lead.

I've done some reading in the forums and in Cyrodiil zone chats and I am now aware this is a known problem and is being experienced by many pve players. I would really like to stay in Cyrodiil for awhile and continue to enjoy myself but there's no real point if it is being manipulated and this loophole that someone decided to abuse continues.

Finally I thought to myself I wonder how many of my faction is under the same manipulation. If the faction on the bottom is being used then how far and deep does this go.....

I have suggestions but they are probably best for another thread. This is only my opinion and other than the way Cyrodiil is right now the game really is fantastic and I look forward to playing for many more years to come.

Thanks ESO.

MLGProPlayer

It's the only good MMO I've ever played.

Cocorocho

Zos please hire me too for this task

Dracindo

Doomsdire wrote: »

Level 380, still learning and still a noob.

The-more-you-know of the day:
The maximum level is 50, you probably mean CP 380.

Doomsdire

Ah yes champion 380 thanks! and to Cocoa puff lol! Surely players can share their positive opinions about the game without it being called a hoax.

Anyways It really is a great game and I hope Cyrodiil gets fixed. That is all

Invincible

Cyrodil is EP territory

Morgul667

Cyrodill is great though, still have a lot of fun there

kargen27

" Honestly at first I thought the faction on the bottom just wasn't doing very good but that wasn't it at all.... they were being controlled from the outside so the winning faction could stay in the lead."

You are going to need to elaborate. Been visiting Cyrodiil for quite a while now and things go in cycles. There are short cycles where the map flips near the same time for several days in a row. One instance before Morrowind update about two in the morning every day those pesky red guys would show up in force (big big numbers) and take the map. There are cycles where one of the major PvP guilds decides to concentrate on an instance and goes all out to dominate during times they know other guilds from other factions are usually in control.

As an aside every faction has members that will swear that the other two factions work together against them. Sometimes it is true, an example being denying a guild seating an emperor. Most times though each faction is out for themselves. What sometimes looks like two factions working together is actually one faction trying to take advantage of the other two fighting by joining in the fight. You see it happen a lot when one side is trying to take a keep and one defending when the third comes in and wrecks things for one side or the other. Usually no conspiracy just taking some easy AP.

TheValar85

I just canceled my subscription, i will no longer support ZOS because of their stupid maintance Schedules

F7sus4

Doomsdire wrote: »

The balance between factions in one of the campaigns was being heavily manipulated and I'm not talking tipping the scale in battle honorably no..... Honestly at first I thought the faction on the bottom just wasn't doing very good but that wasn't it at all.... they were being controlled from the outside so the winning faction could stay in the lead.

I've done some reading in the forums and in Cyrodiil zone chats and I am now aware this is a known problem and is being experienced by many pve players. I would really like to stay in Cyrodiil for awhile and continue to enjoy myself but there's no real point if it is being manipulated and this loophole that someone decided to abuse continues.

I think you're just talking big here.

Johngo0036

I love cyrodiil, but since last week incremental maintenance it has been sooooo laggy for me,

Doomsdire

kargen27 wrote: »

" Honestly at first I thought the faction on the bottom just wasn't doing very good but that wasn't it at all.... they were being controlled from the outside so the winning faction could stay in the lead."

You are going to need to elaborate. Been visiting Cyrodiil for quite a while now and things go in cycles. There are short cycles where the map flips near the same time for several days in a row. One instance before Morrowind update about two in the morning every day those pesky red guys would show up in force (big big numbers) and take the map. There are cycles where one of the major PvP guilds decides to concentrate on an instance and goes all out to dominate during times they know other guilds from other factions are usually in control.

As an aside every faction has members that will swear that the other two factions work together against them. Sometimes it is true, an example being denying a guild seating an emperor. Most times though each faction is out for themselves. What sometimes looks like two factions working together is actually one faction trying to take advantage of the other two fighting by joining in the fight. You see it happen a lot when one side is trying to take a keep and one defending when the third comes in and wrecks things for one side or the other. Usually no conspiracy just taking some easy AP.

Ok well makes sense what you are saying but on the other hand I just witnessed the bottom faction get completely owned by the leading faction...... for days.... very little resistance. They literally owned every keep of theirs and the faction that was on the bottom in what appeared to me was ignoring it completely and continued attacking on the middle alliance on the other side of the map..... Almost like the leading alliance was also the losing alliance.

Now I assumed from what I've heard and read in text chats that players join other factions with their other characters and purposely throw the game or fight with the winning faction and I automatically assumed this is what's going on after observing this strange behavior myself.

I could be wrong and like I said I'm still learning but it sure looked like something was funny.

wahoozie

Love the game, but getting bored. I really enjoy running dungeons, pledges, trials. I really like cyrodiil, the random smaller scale fights are a blast and pretty fast paced; seiging keeps and storming in is pretty epic. However, I'm getting pretty bored with running the same dungeons for "meh" rewards. I hate the gear grind in them. Tired of riding across the map to find some fights in Cyrodiil to be jumped by 3+ players in stealth and killed with 9 procs. I'm hoping this next dungeon dlc brings in at least 4-5 new ones, and Morrowind goes on sale so I can try some bg's and not feel like I'm paying for content I don't use. Awesome game, amazing potential, hoping it's future is brighter.

kargen27

Doomsdire wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

" Honestly at first I thought the faction on the bottom just wasn't doing very good but that wasn't it at all.... they were being controlled from the outside so the winning faction could stay in the lead."

You are going to need to elaborate. Been visiting Cyrodiil for quite a while now and things go in cycles. There are short cycles where the map flips near the same time for several days in a row. One instance before Morrowind update about two in the morning every day those pesky red guys would show up in force (big big numbers) and take the map. There are cycles where one of the major PvP guilds decides to concentrate on an instance and goes all out to dominate during times they know other guilds from other factions are usually in control.

As an aside every faction has members that will swear that the other two factions work together against them. Sometimes it is true, an example being denying a guild seating an emperor. Most times though each faction is out for themselves. What sometimes looks like two factions working together is actually one faction trying to take advantage of the other two fighting by joining in the fight. You see it happen a lot when one side is trying to take a keep and one defending when the third comes in and wrecks things for one side or the other. Usually no conspiracy just taking some easy AP.

Ok well makes sense what you are saying but on the other hand I just witnessed the bottom faction get completely owned by the leading faction...... for days.... very little resistance. They literally owned every keep of theirs and the faction that was on the bottom in what appeared to me was ignoring it completely and continued attacking on the middle alliance on the other side of the map..... Almost like the leading alliance was also the losing alliance.

Now I assumed from what I've heard and read in text chats that players join other factions with their other characters and purposely throw the game or fight with the winning faction and I automatically assumed this is what's going on after observing this strange behavior myself.

I could be wrong and like I said I'm still learning but it sure looked like something was funny.

That could be what was happening, hard to say without seeing the chat. For a while two factions would take turns taking resources from each other to gain AP fast. That doesn't happen much now though and doesn't really sound like what you are describing. Sometimes you also get a person that will join a faction on a alt character and basically spy for his normal faction. They either message where a group might be stealthed or where they are going next or just use skills near the group so they can be easily seen. So yeah people from different factions working together does happen some.

Going back to your scenario I am going to offer up a different reason. Again I don't know what was happening but this might help in the future explain what you are seeing. The PvP guild I am in runs almost every night. Sometimes it is a large group and sometimes a small group. If a member is ahead on the leader board we try to push for emperor. There are guilds in other factions that through rivalries (some friendly some not so much) that will try and prevent us from crowning another emperor. This is where you see some two on one things happening.

When some other faction is making a push for emperor what we like to do is take a keep from the third faction and hold it. We do this just for the AP we get from defending the keep. The side pushing for Emperor needs the keep and the faction it belongs to might want it back. So we get a lot of action and if all goes well a lot of AP. It might look like we are picking on the other faction but really we are just after the AP. It can also be really fun trying to defend that last keep needed for them to get emperor.

Usually when one faction has most of the map it is either because they have a very organized group running or they have vastly superior numbers. Either way that means taking anything from them is going to be difficult and if they have numbers almost impossible. So you skip what they are holding and hit the third faction giving you a better chance for AP. Sometimes it is fun to grab a scroll or two and take them to a keep hoping to attract more attention and more chances for AP. Small groups sometimes just try and hold a congestion point.

And there are the times where the guild that is pushing hard is just hated by everyone so you might have members from all three factions working to make sure they do not get Emperor.

Iccotak

I have made my opinion about ESO pretty obvious.
I think the game is doing really great and that if they continue pumping out great content like this then we'll see something very special in these next few years.

That Being Said:
ZOS needs to graphically update the vanilla zones to be on par with DLC zones.
Preferably, One at a time. Take the time to bring the zone to life.

In order to break the mold and distance themselves from the initial impressions of the game from launch in 2014.
ZOS has to go the extra mile and improve the base game.
There is a clear graphical difference between Morrowind and the Base game.
Ranging from Landscape, Cities, Flora, Animals, and Gear.

Look at my thread here for more detail and proof:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/346850/update-vanilla-zone-quality/p1

Wifeaggro13

My opinion is that eso is a great short term online game. But if you came to play a longterm MMO that you play consistently for a couple of years or more this is not the game.Zos focuses on the churn population and creates content for that type of player. Enjoy it cor what it is lots and lots of questing content. Shallow game systems and very thin endgame activities.

Stridig

I have been playing since early access in 2014. I log in every day and continue to have a ton of fun. That is the point though. I play the game for fun. I don't care about being the world's first this or that. I don't care that certain mechanics of the game are this or that. The guilds that I belong to just hang out together and have fun. We do all content and maintenance schedules don't bother us. In my opinion the game is great.

Doctordarkspawn

Great universe, storytelling, and visual design.

The worst game balance I've ever seen in my entire life.

4/10, story alone cannot hold my interest. A game like Neverwinter, which has cheesy story and microtransactions but has better gameplay scores higher.

Megabear

Less than 2 months in, I love the game. Devs do not seem to love us though.

nimander99

Best MMO on the market bar none imho... And yes, I've played them all and maxed character's in all MMO's. Ill list some here:

GW2 < Still enjoy this when they release content
BDO < well, max is relative, soft cap leveling
WoW < Needs a combat upgrade, boring
Trove < Multiple Classes maxed
FFXIV < WoW Clone
LOTRO < Uggg, leveling is a drag
DDO < Uggg, leveling is a drag
Neverwinter < Great game actually
Wildstar < Space WoW with better combat... Almost Diabloish
EQ
EQ2
Dransik/Ashen Empires < One of the best old school Isometric MMO's still playable.
UO
Archeage < WoW Clone

etc.. if you want to include older games that have been shut down.

Fiskerton

The only thing I hate about it is that race counts towards min/maxing. I want to play the one true race only.

nimander99

Iccotak wrote: »

I have made my opinion about ESO pretty obvious.
I think the game is doing really great and that if they continue pumping out great content like this then we'll see something very special in these next few years.

That Being Said:
ZOS needs to graphically update the vanilla zones to be on par with DLC zones.
Preferably, One at a time. Take the time to bring the zone to life.

In order to break the mold and distance themselves from the initial impressions of the game from launch in 2014.
ZOS has to go the extra mile and improve the base game.
There is a clear graphical difference between Morrowind and the Base game.
Ranging from Landscape, Cities, Flora, Animals, and Gear.

Look at my thread here for more detail and proof:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/346850/update-vanilla-zone-quality/p1

Well said!

Id like to add:

Closed off doors in cities and towns and random homes in the wilderness is a drag, make everything open and accessible even if its just pasta from another room in the game, adds more depth, more exploration. Nothing bugs me more that a door with a chain across it.

Also, fill out interior's to reflect the exterior of a building... Kinda like they do in the single player Scroll's games.

Kill the Slaughterfish!

And allow us to go back into locked out quest areas... Places that we quested in but are no longer accessible due to our progression. Why cant I open that cave now that I've beaten the quest involved in it?