I am so sick of resetting my champion points!

Mephisto939

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

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Sigtric

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DMuehlhausen

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Complaining about something that isn't that big of deal is really being more of an ***. You should happy they are trying to fix things and that is why you have to reset them.

Now if you are one of those people that reset all the time to fit what you are doing in a group daily well then guess that is your choice.

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KerinKor

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Seems to me he was replying with a cogent observation.

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magictucktuck

you dont already reset them all the time for PvE PvP??

Strider_Roshin

I bet you're a pleasure to work with.

Mephisto939

magictucktuck wrote: »

you dont already reset them all the time for PvE PvP??

No I have characters I use exclusively for each.

AlnilamE

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

Considering the changes they made, what would you have suggested they do instead?

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Beardimus

Seriously it just takes a few minutes. And in this case needed as there are big changes.

A free reset is brilliant. People moaned about the free skill point resets a while back and got them removed too i dont get it

Mephisto939

AlnilamE wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

Considering the changes they made, what would you have suggested they do instead?

How about they stop trying to fix *** that isn't broken and focus on the numerous actual problems like the constant crashes in Cyrodil etc...

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Yolokin_Swagonborn

I'm sick of having champion points in the first place. They destroyed game balance by introducing power creep and then they destroyed the uniqueness of class skills because ZOSE nerfed iconic class skills instead of reigning in the champion system.

Not to mention that when the Crapeon system was implemented ZOS stole 5k stamina and magicka from our resource pools and locked it behind the system.

Even in non-CP pvp they never give that back. So OP, I have a proposal for you. I hate the Champion system, you hate assigning your points. Lets both agree that the champion system must be destroyed for the betterment of the entire game.

idk

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

I do hve a question. What do you expect to get out of creating this thread?

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tinythinker

Constructive suggestion based on the OP: Hey ZOS let us have Champion profiles (up to 3-5 per character) that we can use at shrines if we don't want to do a respec manually. Good for those with PvE vs PvP or solo vs. group or this role vs. that role specs. This also allows for players to immediately reload a profile after a reset from a DLC or chapter. Thanks for reading.

Uriel_Nocturne

Luckily, OP; with this Morrowind update, CP's have become as pointless as a screen door on a submarine.]

You actually get punished for having MORE CP (due to that front-loading bull-***), so just put them wherever, because they mean less than nothing anymore.

Rouven

A solution in other games that I have seen is that the skills are not reset - but you get a free reset. So as soon as you would add another CP you would be asked if you are sure because you would lose your reset, otherwise you can reset then at your own convenience.

Mephisto939

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

I do hve a question. What do you expect to get out of creating this thread?

Psychological catharsis. Besides, if you don't complain do you know what will change? Nothing.

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STEVIL

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

set them to all zero and never have to change it again.

you are welcome.

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idk

Mephisto939 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

I do hve a question. What do you expect to get out of creating this thread?

Psychological catharsis. Besides, if you don't complain do you know what will change? Nothing.

Considering changes were made to the game for game play which is why you need to allocate CP again.

I think that takes presidence over a petty complain such as this it's a good thing Zos didn't make us pay 3k gold per character to make the change.

Further, anyone who doesn't like change really has little business playing an MMO. Change is a constant in MMOs.

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sarbonn

The only reason I don't like it isn't really a complaint, but just one of those unfortunate circumstances. Whenever they do these changes and reset the abilities, I have so many characters that when I finally get to some of the ones on the bottom of the list, I've completely forgotten that they reset them and I end up playing for about an hour before I start to realize why they're much weaker than they should be. And then I set the numbers where they're supposed to be.

Not the end of the world, but a bit of an inconvenience. It was a lot worse in other games where you actually had to pay in game money for some of the specific upgrades and then have to repay for those same abilities again.

Mephisto939

STEVIL wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

set them to all zero and never have to change it again.

you are welcome.

Sure! Because putting myself at a huge disadvantage vis-a-vis everyone else is a very feasible solution.

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Sigtric

Mephisto939 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

set them to all zero and never have to change it again.

you are welcome.

Sure! Because putting myself at a huge disadvantage vis-a-vis everyone else is a very feasible solution.

Then spend 30 seconds putting your points back?

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Asardes

I partially agree. There should be faster ways of distributing them instead of clicking 630 times for each character. For example be able to type the number of points for each star or even load a saved template and of course save the current as template. Of course the 3K gold should still be substracted when you reset them.

MarzAttakz

Instead of berating the OP for being, amongst other things, a cry baby, perhaps apply your critical posting skills to considering the actual USER EXPERIENCE of redistributing your points hmm?

Done yet? Okay I'll give you a few more minutes... Was it fun? Did you enjoy it? Did it make you happy?

Thought not.

Irrespective of the reasons or frequency of taking an action, said action from an interface and experience perspective should not be a chore. Agreed? If not you're a special kind of masochist.

What harm would there be in doing some of the following as quality of life improvements?

1) CP Allocation profiles, switchable without visiting a shrine, apply cost gating mechanism of your choice. Set once, or reset when CP system changes but easily applied after created.

2) Selectable Morphs unlocked once a skill-point for each morph has been used and skill has been fully-levelled, again locked behind the gating mechanism of choice. ZOS changes skills as they will, you get to use your skill of choice when needed without having to redo all your morphs.

STEVIL

Mephisto939 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

set them to all zero and never have to change it again.

you are welcome.

Sure! Because putting myself at a huge disadvantage vis-a-vis everyone else is a very feasible solution.

If you are choosing to re-allocate when they change what they do because you want the good benefits from them, then it seems odd to have a problem with changing them to whatever you see as needed when they undergo significant changes.

My bet is that if they had left them assigned as is, so that many folks did not even bother and just suffered until they realized "wait what happened to my cost reduction" there would have been more complaints from those wanting the benefits.

My other bet is if they did that and you had to pay 3k gold to respec each of your 12, you would have been here too only louder.

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Mephisto939

Sigtric wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

It gets extremely tedious across a dozen characters. And we all know ZOS will [snip] with things in the near future requiring another do-over.

set them to all zero and never have to change it again.

you are welcome.

Sure! Because putting myself at a huge disadvantage vis-a-vis everyone else is a very feasible solution.

Then spend 30 seconds putting your points back?

30 seconds my [snip]! The trees changed, the returns changed.

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