[Video] Powerful Magicka Templar Battlegrounds Build

BraidasNM

Kas wrote: »

full hakeijo is the perfect choice
valkyn is still great
5 transmutation only on s+b bar was superb for the longest time and is still a very nice choice
2 willpower swords somehow feels like DB patch to me ^^ personally I'd prefer a (msa+poison) staff now, also to have the choice which resource to restore in very long fights
bars are rather standard imho

imho reminds me of decimus' fasallas build from a year ago (which i liked better at the time tbh):

Well, it may be similar to old builds (it's pretty close to my DB build as well) but that doesn't mean it isn't still effective. No reason to fix what's not broken. I mean magsorcs have been running similar bar setups since release haha

The heavy on lightning staff is extremely ez to block so I don't see the value in it against good players. I prefer the oblivion/spell dmg glyph combo to a poison as well, but just preference.

And what can I say good players think alike @DDuke

Kas wrote: »

5bsw and choosing 5 LA with light chest, I don't really agree with unless all you want to do is leech kills with executes

This part's kinda funny bc in practice it's usually the reverse - I end up with the highest dmg and fewer kb's. Between snb, trans, and spell wall I'm not actually that squishy.

You can see me play it a bit here if you'd like: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/348055/video-magplar-battlegrounds-v1/p1

DeHei

Kas wrote: »

full hakeijo is the perfect choice
valkyn is still great
5 transmutation only on s+b bar was superb for the longest time and is still a very nice choice
2 willpower swords somehow feels like DB patch to me ^^ personally I'd prefer a (msa+poison) staff now, also to have the choice which resource to restore in very long fights
bars are rather standard imho
5bsw and choosing 5 LA with light chest, I don't really agree with unless all you want to do is leech kills with executes

imho reminds me of decimus' fasallas build from a year ago (which i liked better at the time tbh):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHkXLPC0cE

The build worked and work now too.. for sure, BUT Fasallas and Malubeths together is really a broken combo... the playstyle really really looks like a monkey, who allways press the same key... I dont honor Templar, who play just with spamming puncturing sweep!

Akinos

DeHei wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

full hakeijo is the perfect choice
valkyn is still great
5 transmutation only on s+b bar was superb for the longest time and is still a very nice choice
2 willpower swords somehow feels like DB patch to me ^^ personally I'd prefer a (msa+poison) staff now, also to have the choice which resource to restore in very long fights
bars are rather standard imho
5bsw and choosing 5 LA with light chest, I don't really agree with unless all you want to do is leech kills with executes

imho reminds me of decimus' fasallas build from a year ago (which i liked better at the time tbh):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHkXLPC0cE

The build worked and work now too.. for sure, BUT Fasallas and Malubeths together is really a broken combo... the playstyle really really looks like a monkey, who allways press the same key... I dont honor Templar, who play just with spamming puncturing sweep!

What other skill are melee magplars supposed to use besides sweeps?

Rhaegar75

really nice build BraidasNM!!
can I ask you how you allocated your CP points?
thanks

BraidasNM

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

really nice build BraidasNM!!
can I ask you how you allocated your CP points?
thanks

ty, but like I said in the vid I haven't even looked at CP this patch so I couldn't tell you :P

Rhaegar75

BraidasNM wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

really nice build BraidasNM!!
can I ask you how you allocated your CP points?
thanks

ty, but like I said in the vid I haven't even looked at CP this patch so I couldn't tell you :P

cheers;
I like the build for its simplicity and efficacy (I also watched the other video you have on youtube): really effective playstyle

Waffennacht

I just realized, you don't run a single shield, which surprises me as you're in LA. Is this because it's BGs and they lose their effectiveness facing multiple opponents?

Are you in the middle fighting, are you trying to secure 1v1, or are you more in the back and wait for positioning?

Playstyle has a large influence on a build and now I'm intrigued

BraidasNM

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

really nice build BraidasNM!!
can I ask you how you allocated your CP points?
thanks

ty, but like I said in the vid I haven't even looked at CP this patch so I couldn't tell you :P

cheers;
I like the build for its simplicity and efficacy (I also watched the other video you have on youtube): really effective playstyle

ty again ^-^

Waffennacht wrote: »

I just realized, you don't run a single shield, which surprises me as you're in LA. Is this because it's BGs and they lose their effectiveness facing multiple opponents?

Are you in the middle fighting, are you trying to secure 1v1, or are you more in the back and wait for positioning?

Playstyle has a large influence on a build and now I'm intrigued

I feel you need either snb or damage shields for defense, not both. You can watch the montage in my sig to see me play the build, but I'm usually in the middle fighting.

Waffennacht

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

RIPnRhyme

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

Minno

Akinos wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

full hakeijo is the perfect choice
valkyn is still great
5 transmutation only on s+b bar was superb for the longest time and is still a very nice choice
2 willpower swords somehow feels like DB patch to me ^^ personally I'd prefer a (msa+poison) staff now, also to have the choice which resource to restore in very long fights
bars are rather standard imho
5bsw and choosing 5 LA with light chest, I don't really agree with unless all you want to do is leech kills with executes

imho reminds me of decimus' fasallas build from a year ago (which i liked better at the time tbh):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHkXLPC0cE

The build worked and work now too.. for sure, BUT Fasallas and Malubeths together is really a broken combo... the playstyle really really looks like a monkey, who allways press the same key... I dont honor Templar, who play just with spamming puncturing sweep!

What other skill are melee magplars supposed to use besides sweeps?

Jesus beam! Oh wait....

Minno

BraidasNM wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

really nice build BraidasNM!!
can I ask you how you allocated your CP points?
thanks

ty, but like I said in the vid I haven't even looked at CP this patch so I couldn't tell you :P

cheers;
I like the build for its simplicity and efficacy (I also watched the other video you have on youtube): really effective playstyle

ty again ^-^

Waffennacht wrote: »

I just realized, you don't run a single shield, which surprises me as you're in LA. Is this because it's BGs and they lose their effectiveness facing multiple opponents?

Are you in the middle fighting, are you trying to secure 1v1, or are you more in the back and wait for positioning?

Playstyle has a large influence on a build and now I'm intrigued

I feel you need either snb or damage shields for defense, not both. You can watch the montage in my sig to see me play the build, but I'm usually in the middle fighting.

Not enough bar space if you even want to try running s+b and shield.

BraidasNM

Waffennacht wrote: »

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

lol nice catch. nah tht looked funny tho, not even a roll dodge actlly just a glitched knockdown animation while I was jumping

RIPnRhyme wrote: »

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

idk how you would proc trans for your team with mag dk unless you were spamming rapid regen. BSW and valkyn certainly work with mag dk though, and you could do lich backbar instead of trans.

Brutusmax1mus

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

Minno

BraidasNM wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

lol nice catch. nah tht looked funny tho, not even a roll dodge actlly just a glitched knockdown animation while I was jumping

RIPnRhyme wrote: »

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

idk how you would proc trans for your team with mag dk unless you were spamming rapid regen. BSW and valkyn certainly work with mag dk though, and you could do lich backbar instead of trans.

Healing springs is the only one that will group heal. You could do combat prayer as well.

Waffennacht

Minno wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

lol nice catch. nah tht looked funny tho, not even a roll dodge actlly just a glitched knockdown animation while I was jumping

RIPnRhyme wrote: »

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

idk how you would proc trans for your team with mag dk unless you were spamming rapid regen. BSW and valkyn certainly work with mag dk though, and you could do lich backbar instead of trans.

Healing springs is the only one that will group heal. You could do combat prayer as well.

I think he was talking about procin Transmutation, which combat prayer won't do

Minno

Waffennacht wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

lol nice catch. nah tht looked funny tho, not even a roll dodge actlly just a glitched knockdown animation while I was jumping

RIPnRhyme wrote: »

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

idk how you would proc trans for your team with mag dk unless you were spamming rapid regen. BSW and valkyn certainly work with mag dk though, and you could do lich backbar instead of trans.

Healing springs is the only one that will group heal. You could do combat prayer as well.

I think he was talking about procin Transmutation, which combat prayer won't do

I forgot, it's a HOT you need .

Waffennacht

Minno wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

lol nice catch. nah tht looked funny tho, not even a roll dodge actlly just a glitched knockdown animation while I was jumping

RIPnRhyme wrote: »

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

idk how you would proc trans for your team with mag dk unless you were spamming rapid regen. BSW and valkyn certainly work with mag dk though, and you could do lich backbar instead of trans.

Healing springs is the only one that will group heal. You could do combat prayer as well.

I think he was talking about procin Transmutation, which combat prayer won't do

I forgot, it's a HOT you need .

Which means NBs and Temps and I suppose Wardens are the only classes that can easily proc it without a resto staff

Minno

Waffennacht wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

So... Um... Am I crazy or are you running eternal hunt in that video? (I think you are 1:28 in video)

... So when will we get your real build ?

lol nice catch. nah tht looked funny tho, not even a roll dodge actlly just a glitched knockdown animation while I was jumping

RIPnRhyme wrote: »

Really fun looking build, however I am a dragon knight. How do you think this would transfer over? I am a firm believer that our little team could use a transmutation set so this would be great. I'm not a fan of the heavy armor builds that most mag dk's run.

idk how you would proc trans for your team with mag dk unless you were spamming rapid regen. BSW and valkyn certainly work with mag dk though, and you could do lich backbar instead of trans.

Healing springs is the only one that will group heal. You could do combat prayer as well.

I think he was talking about procin Transmutation, which combat prayer won't do

I forgot, it's a HOT you need .

Which means NBs and Temps and I suppose Wardens are the only classes that can easily proc it without a resto staff

What about energy orb? Might be stupid lol

Vigor, though costs Stam.

That's it.

BraidasNM

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

Brutusmax1mus

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

Brutusmax1mus

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

I have been considering 1 cost reduc and slotting rapid regen for some extra though.

Waffennacht

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

At which point why are you running soul shine? You're sacrificing 525 spell damage to Regen with Glyphs to gain 450 spell DMG to your channeled attacks

Brutusmax1mus

Waffennacht wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

At which point why are you running soul shine? You're sacrificing 525 spell damage to Regen with Glyphs to gain 450 spell DMG to your channeled attacks

Yes, instead of a set that helps with regen, i have higher damage. I think of it as how many set bonuses are dedicated to what. With those sets you get:

Max mag x 2
Spell crit
Spell damage x 2
And with sorcery a massive permanent 1010 spell damage to all of my attacks.

I'm not sacrificing damage... Going regen on jewelery is not a problem. In vivec it's nuts when i can make those spell damage...

Brutusmax1mus

Give it a shot, you'll love how much regen u get from a heavy resto In heavy armor too.

Waffennacht

@Brutusmax1mus what I'm saying is your stats are something like 450 from Soul, 400ish from maiden, their other bonus and let's just round and say 450 Regen from Glyphs.

It's no different than say 400ish from maiden 450 from Glyphs and 450 Regen from something like Amberplasm. (Not right numbers just giving an example)

What I would end up doing with maiden + soul would be x3 DMG glyph and forget Regen and just nuke players with Soul Assault

Brutusmax1mus

Waffennacht wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus what I'm saying is your stats are something like 450 from Soul, 400ish from maiden, their other bonus and let's just round and say 450 Regen from Glyphs.

It's no different than say 400ish from maiden 450 from Glyphs and 450 Regen from something like Amberplasm. (Not right numbers just giving an example)

What I would end up doing with maiden + soul would be x3 DMG glyph and forget Regen and just nuke players with Soul Assault

The difference is armor type really. And Amber is only 300 regen. I use stop mundus too with witch mother's. I can't play with 0 regen on glyphs outside of vivec. Don't like being that dependent on heavy attacking.

I do want amberplasm, just haven't farmed that yet nor am i ready to do the light armor switch.

Lexxypwns

Waffennacht wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

At which point why are you running soul shine? You're sacrificing 525 spell damage to Regen with Glyphs to gain 450 spell DMG to your channeled attacks

Soulshine is absolutely BiS on magplar in heavy. The Stam return from constitution and the 1 line of HP means you can run witchmothers as long as you've got prismatics. Spinners is more damage than maiden, but I'd be hesitant to run 2 sets that don't increase my healing considering the magplar nerfs.

BSW is easily the best choice for a second damage set to pair with soulshine, if youre still stacking 2 damage sets, since you can control when it procs and get exceptional burst. You won't need 3 glyphs, just run 2x cost reduction and use destro back bar for ele drain. I think you'll need EG though, all of its procs have a desirable outcome.

Brutusmax1mus

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

At which point why are you running soul shine? You're sacrificing 525 spell damage to Regen with Glyphs to gain 450 spell DMG to your channeled attacks

Soulshine is absolutely BiS on magplar in heavy. The Stam return from constitution and the 1 line of HP means you can run witchmothers as long as you've got prismatics. Spinners is more damage than maiden, but I'd be hesitant to run 2 sets that don't increase my healing considering the magplar nerfs.

BSW is easily the best choice for a second damage set to pair with soulshine, if youre still stacking 2 damage sets, since you can control when it procs and get exceptional burst. You won't need 3 glyphs, just run 2x cost reduction and use destro back bar for ele drain. I think you'll need EG though, all of its procs have a desirable outcome.

I like bsw with it when I'm off healing or in 2v2s. But I've needed that dps increase way to often when it wasn't there for me to be all aboard that ship. My bg group i am pure dps and really never heal myself. I'm not going to get into specifics about our set up unless you pm me. This set up is for 4v4v4 where all my focus is dps.

Waffennacht

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Try soul shine plus war maiden. 5 body ss, jewelery snb war maiden dps bar, mael resto back bar. It's gud.

I can't imagine you'd have any sustain in that

With vamp, 3 regen glyphs I'm fine with a heavy resto or two thrown in before each burst attempt.

At which point why are you running soul shine? You're sacrificing 525 spell damage to Regen with Glyphs to gain 450 spell DMG to your channeled attacks

Soulshine is absolutely BiS on magplar in heavy. The Stam return from constitution and the 1 line of HP means you can run witchmothers as long as you've got prismatics. Spinners is more damage than maiden, but I'd be hesitant to run 2 sets that don't increase my healing considering the magplar nerfs.

BSW is easily the best choice for a second damage set to pair with soulshine, if youre still stacking 2 damage sets, since you can control when it procs and get exceptional burst. You won't need 3 glyphs, just run 2x cost reduction and use destro back bar for ele drain. I think you'll need EG though, all of its procs have a desirable outcome.

At 2 glyphs there is a reason to run Soul, about a net value of 150ish spell damage.

If you are sacrificing spell damage Glyphs to run a set that provides spell damage, you are not gaining anything.

Maybe I need to provide real sets and numbers.

450 from Soul Shine, 129 soul shine, 967 magicka SS, 688 crit, 129 maiden, 400 maiden, 967 magicka 688 crit x3 Regen glyph 160ea for 480 Regen

Total: 1108 spell damage, 1934 magicka 480 Regen 1372 crit

Wai Maiden + Amberplasm + x3 DMG glyph
967 magicka Amber 688 crit Amber 129 DMG Amber 300 Regen Amber 300 Stam Regen Amber 525 spell DMG glyph 967 magicka maiden, 688 crit maiden, 129 spell DMG maiden 400 maiden,

Totals: 1183 spell DMG, 1934 magicka 300 Regen 1372 crit and 300 Stam Regen

For the cost of 180 mag Regen you gain 75 spell damage and 300 Stam Regen.

Yes this is light armor, however sets like Julianos can be crafted into heavy, or if you want you can go:

Soul Shine + Amberplasm + x2 DMG Glyphs x1 Regen glyph and have as much mag Regen, more DMG, and more Stam Regen.

Edit: Amberplasm is just an example of a sustain set, sets that also provide DMG instead of Stam Regen will provide better numbers

Hey let's compare Shackle breaker and Maiden

688 crit, 967 magicka, 129 sd, 400 sd, 129 sd, 129 m Regen, 2000 magicka 129 we 2000 Stam 320 Regen glyph, 175 sp glyph

2967 magicka 688 crit 833 DMG, 449 m Regen, 129 Stam Regen, 2000 Stam so here you lose 688 crit 30 m Regen and essentially 80 sd but gain 129 Stam Regen 129 weapon DMG and 2000 stam