Potential Future DLC: PvALL Zone

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Imperial City.

Sausage

I Don't Care

I keep hoping for Darkfall 2 myself, its full loot and full PVP game, it aint getting better than that. Darkfall was closed back in 2016 but it seems Aventurine SA is still active, at least accordingly to wikipedia, so makes me wonder what they're doing. I would almost bet something is cooking, they got couple major investment so obviously investors were interested in them.

leepalmer95

This has happened its called IC.

Sausage

I Don't Care

Sausage wrote: »

I keep hoping for Darkfall 2 myself, its full loot and full PVP game, it aint getting better than that. Darkfall was closed back in 2016 but it seems Aventurine SA is still active, at least accordingly to wikipedia, so makes me wonder what they're doing. I would almost bet something is cooking, they got couple major investment so obviously investors were interested in them.

At least Taso's Twitter still says "Gaming and Digital Strategy geek" So hes involved in game industry.

Keep the hope up guys!

Turelus

Sounds Interesting

I'll admit I don't actually recall making this suggestion.

Still I'm a former EVE online player so open PvP without limits on who you can attack, not sure how well it would work in ESO as there isn't much lost on death.

More interesting combat zones would be nice, guild declaring wars and being able to fight outside of Cyrodiil... ah the dream of chaos and bloodshed...

Sneaky-Snurr

Sounds Interesting

Would love to see this happen as I think it is indeed possible to implement this kind of play into the game.

It's unlike any other PvX we have atm and this would be a great addition. Minimal loopholes too! I can see this blend nicely into the game and I fully support @Turelus's idea.

FloppyTouch

Sounds Interesting

Would love it myself would be a lot of fun

Dracindo

Sounds Interesting

But you know, if 2 guys are fighting, a third is isn't going to step in to save one, he'll kill them both.

Vipstaakki

Would be terrible

You already have Cyrodiil.

altemriel

Sounds Interesting

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Recently @Turelus made the suggestion that a forced lone wolf PvP / PvE zone would be cool. And I wholeheartedly agree. The tension, i mean. No absolute help anywhere.

You see two dudes duking it out in the distance... Do you help one overpower the other? If you do will that other person turn around and try to kill you or will they say thanks?

Groups can be formed on the fly via /whisper or /say but its a shaky pact as it is, as friendly fire will always be on (and they may not really be friendly).

It'd be kinda cool if you could tie the justice system into it or something. Place bounties on players with the highest "score" in the zone (from killing npc's or players).

something like the Imperial City, that would be nice, yes!

MCBIZZLE300

Sounds Interesting

max_only wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

I'd absolutely love to have this, but there would be too many PVE-only players that would complain about it and say that pvpers are ruining their game, even though the zone would be 100% optional.

Other games have done this and it typically works fine

"Optional".

Like how Cyrodiil is "optional"?

Don't make me laugh.

cyrodiil is optional... the whole games optional

Blobsky

Welcome to Imperial City where.. there is dead content

supaskrub

Would be terrible

I don't like the idea of what OP suggests, however i do think that dev's should have seriously looked into a "Battle Royale" type game mode for Battlegrounds or maybe consider adding one at a later date.

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

I would be so down for this! I often think about how I would love to pvp. But I don't wanna stop farming or questing or doing my business in town. Doing delves or dailies in any given zone.

And I think about how cool it would be to have a regular pve zone. World boss delves public dungeon nodes. But have it be dangerous. Have pvp always on for anyone.

Need help with a world boss do you kill that guy or does he kill you? Or do you work together?

Farming nodes and someone stole it. Dispose of them.

The element of surprise and the comradery forged would be an excellent addition to the game.

You obviously never played Tom Clancy's The Division, The "Dark Zone" was a great idea/format on paper, but in reality it was an utter *** show once the boredom wore off, true The Division allowed groups of up to 4 people and you could get by solo for a short time but in reality you would end up with half the server just zerging every one and driving them off the server, the gameplay was designed with survival in mind first and foremost, but in reality just turned into a player driven gank fest and became unenjoyable very quickly.

That said though The Division did pull it off to an extent with a Battle Royale type format called "Survival", Twenty Four players in one instance all with the same goal, to get out and reap the rewards, but even Survival had to have a non-pvp option which was far more popular than the pvp option.

Turelus

Sounds Interesting

Blobsky wrote: »

Welcome to Imperial City where.. there is dead content

Remove faction restrictions and make it PvP base only on guild/group.

ANARCHY IN THE CITY!

Voxicity

Sounds Interesting

I would absolutely love this

drakhan2002_ESO

Would be terrible

Unlikely, since this game is primarily a PvE game. Doesn't make sense to add a PvALL environment. PvP is done in Cyrodiil - go there...stay there...and leave the rest of world a PvE. If you're so into PvP, there are probably better games out there than this one to PvP in. Just sayin'.

Bombashaman

Would be terrible

Make it PvP DLC but with opt-out toggle for PvE players. And do the same to Cyrodiil.

Everyone happy?

Kay1

Sounds Interesting

This game is a PvP game, everything you do is to end up in PvP but the TES fans believe this game is Skyrim and they just want quests and quests and quests and blame PvP.

If you ask this in this forum you will just get no and more no because the majority of people in this forum are the typical casuals who play 2h a day doing quests and collecting flowers.

Dracindo

Sounds Interesting

Bombashaman wrote: »

Make it PvP DLC but with opt-out toggle for PvE players. And do the same to Cyrodiil.

Everyone happy?

No, also an option to switch Friendly-Fire in PvE, allowing us to attack others in PvE areas with the same setting.

NewBlacksmurf

Would be terrible

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

There's a huge reason why Cyrodil is seperate and why. battlegrounds are seperate as well as non PvP zones

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

There's a huge reason why Cyrodil is seperate and why. battlegrounds are seperate as well as non PvP zones

This would be separate as well, a different Zone. Likely shadow instanced to handle large amounts of players. It wouldn't overlap any existing zone.

You're missing it.

Literally Cyrodil failed at trying this already....as well as Imperial City so changes were made

not instanced as you have the option of choosing what instance you're in. tone down the number of players that can actually be in the same zone instance, a much lower cap per instance than what is currently implemented in Cyrodiil. maybe 50 players max per instance (all depending on the size of the created zone). Hell, you could even weight it so that players who generally score lower tend to shift into the same instances whereas high-scoring players are paired with other high-scoring players.

I understand the idea....but it's literally been done or tried. Cyrodil is what it is due to a lot of closed beta feedback.
While some may like the idea, I'd suggest feedback lead the developers in a different direction.

I'm not saying it was exactly like this but in closed beta there was just a few testing this and that and more were added as they made adjustments. You're basically talking about a battle ground which....we see how they wanted it

The issue is this, you need to first seperate PvE from PvP entirely as step 1.
Then you can mix and match but the other thing is this mega server is more of a hinderance

Bombashaman

Would be terrible

Dracindo wrote: »

Bombashaman wrote: »

Make it PvP DLC but with opt-out toggle for PvE players. And do the same to Cyrodiil.

Everyone happy?

No, also an option to switch Friendly-Fire in PvE, allowing us to attack others in PvE areas with the same setting.

Sure, sounds reasonable. PvP world with opt-out toggle then?

I'm all for "as much content as possible to every type of player". non-forced PvP everywhere, PvE everywhere, solo options for group dungeons, group options for solo content etc.

Vipstaakki

Would be terrible

There is a reason why PvP'ers are locked away safely in Cyrodiil.

sdtlc

Would be terrible

I'm a big fan of all this "Hey you noob, duel me brah" whispers, no thanks.

ADarklore

Would be terrible

Kay1 wrote: »

This game is a PvP game, everything you do is to end up in PvP but the TES fans believe this game is Skyrim and they just want quests and quests and quests and blame PvP.

If you ask this in this forum you will just get no and more no because the majority of people in this forum are the typical casuals who play 2h a day doing quests and collecting flowers.

So what you're saying then is that the majority of players here in the forums saying NO are PvE players... which then pretty much ruins your opinion that this game is a "PvP game" since apparently you cannot even get enough PvP players here in the forums to support this... so no, ESO is NOT a PvP game, not even close. PvP is a side attraction, nothing more. But you're right, the majority of players would rather be doing quests and collecting flowers than dealing with anything PvP related.

drakhan2002_ESO

Would be terrible

Kay1 wrote: »

This game is a PvP game, everything you do is to end up in PvP but the TES fans believe this game is Skyrim and they just want quests and quests and quests and blame PvP.

If you ask this in this forum you will just get no and more no because the majority of people in this forum are the typical casuals who play 2h a day doing quests and collecting flowers.

It's NOT a PvP game. It's a PvE - just look at the map...amount of content...the number of people participating in PvE vs. PvP. Not sure how you can support your claim.

You sound bitter and like an elitist. It makes your post less relevant...and I am sure you'll attack me for whatever your reasons are. Just a friendly reminder...not *everything* is PvP...including these forums. But alas, some folks feel that way.

McCracken79

This is not a question to ask when 80 to 90% of the players on here are PvE. With that said I don't care for PvE at all, some of the trials and dungeons are fun but, for me, PvP is dynamic and interesting. Some other MMO's I played had War Time in certain zones. During that time it would be a free for all, you could kill anyone including your faction, steal their items or what ever goods they were running. It usually lasted a couple hours and would go back to peace. It sure added risk and excitement. However they had a judicial system and if you get caught and a jury of your peers, (other players) would find you guilty you could sit in jail for hours. Eventually if you had enough crime points you were exiled and would be killed on the spot anywhere you were not welcome.

Kay1

Sounds Interesting

ADarklore wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

This game is a PvP game, everything you do is to end up in PvP but the TES fans believe this game is Skyrim and they just want quests and quests and quests and blame PvP.

If you ask this in this forum you will just get no and more no because the majority of people in this forum are the typical casuals who play 2h a day doing quests and collecting flowers.

So what you're saying then is that the majority of players here in the forums saying NO are PvE players... which then pretty much ruins your opinion that this game is a "PvP game" since apparently you cannot even get enough PvP players here in the forums to support this... so no, ESO is NOT a PvP game, not even close. PvP is a side attraction, nothing more. But you're right, the majority of players would rather be doing quests and collecting flowers than dealing with anything PvP related.

Yes

No

No

Yes

This game is still a PvP game, the quests are meaningless, the BiS gear can be farmed by a player who bought the game 2 days ago, the achievements are rewardless the end game PvE are Trials who gets first cleared 1h after release, there's no real world bosses, no survival modes for infinite PvE replay ability, crafting is *** and just ask you to wait, Dungeons are ridiculously easy and I can probably keep going if you give me time.

Yeah there's a lot of PvE zones and delves but they don't mean anything they are just there to milk money from casuals who believe this game is Skyrim, in this game you do a quest and you receive a blue weapon, 5k xp and 200 gold, in Guild Wars (a real PvE game) you get maybe 20k gold per quest and you can loot weapons that are maybe worth 50M gold by just killing a chicken.

Yeah again there's more people in PvE zones than in PvP zones but you are counting bots, casuals, newbies or people doing their daily stuff, now compare it to the thousands of active veteran players who do PvP 4-15h a day.

Vipstaakki

Would be terrible

Kay1 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

This game is a PvP game, everything you do is to end up in PvP but the TES fans believe this game is Skyrim and they just want quests and quests and quests and blame PvP.

If you ask this in this forum you will just get no and more no because the majority of people in this forum are the typical casuals who play 2h a day doing quests and collecting flowers.

So what you're saying then is that the majority of players here in the forums saying NO are PvE players... which then pretty much ruins your opinion that this game is a "PvP game" since apparently you cannot even get enough PvP players here in the forums to support this... so no, ESO is NOT a PvP game, not even close. PvP is a side attraction, nothing more. But you're right, the majority of players would rather be doing quests and collecting flowers than dealing with anything PvP related.

Yes

No

No

Yes

This game is still a PvP game, the quests are meaningless, the BiS gear can be farmed by a player who bought the game 2 days ago, the achievements are rewardless the end game PvE are Trials who gets first cleared 1h after release, there's no real world bosses, no survival modes for infinite PvE replay ability, crafting is *** and just ask you to wait, Dungeons are ridiculously easy and I can probably keep going if you give me time.

Yeah there's a lot of PvE zones and delves but they don't mean anything they are just there to milk money from casuals who believe this game is Skyrim, in this game you do a quest and you receive a blue weapon, 5k xp and 200 gold, in Guild Wars (a real PvE game) you get maybe 20k gold per quest and you can loot weapons that are maybe worth 50M gold by just killing a chicken.

Yeah again there's more people in PvE zones than in PvP zones but you are counting bots, casuals, newbies or people doing their daily stuff, now compare it to the thousands of active veteran players who do PvP 4-15h a day.

Like they milk money from casuals such as yourself who think that ESO is a PvP game?

Kay1

Sounds Interesting

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

This game is a PvP game, everything you do is to end up in PvP but the TES fans believe this game is Skyrim and they just want quests and quests and quests and blame PvP.

If you ask this in this forum you will just get no and more no because the majority of people in this forum are the typical casuals who play 2h a day doing quests and collecting flowers.

So what you're saying then is that the majority of players here in the forums saying NO are PvE players... which then pretty much ruins your opinion that this game is a "PvP game" since apparently you cannot even get enough PvP players here in the forums to support this... so no, ESO is NOT a PvP game, not even close. PvP is a side attraction, nothing more. But you're right, the majority of players would rather be doing quests and collecting flowers than dealing with anything PvP related.

Yes

No

No

Yes

This game is still a PvP game, the quests are meaningless, the BiS gear can be farmed by a player who bought the game 2 days ago, the achievements are rewardless the end game PvE are Trials who gets first cleared 1h after release, there's no real world bosses, no survival modes for infinite PvE replay ability, crafting is *** and just ask you to wait, Dungeons are ridiculously easy and I can probably keep going if you give me time.

Yeah there's a lot of PvE zones and delves but they don't mean anything they are just there to milk money from casuals who believe this game is Skyrim, in this game you do a quest and you receive a blue weapon, 5k xp and 200 gold, in Guild Wars (a real PvE game) you get maybe 20k gold per quest and you can loot weapons that are maybe worth 50M gold by just killing a chicken.

Yeah again there's more people in PvE zones than in PvP zones but you are counting bots, casuals, newbies or people doing their daily stuff, now compare it to the thousands of active veteran players who do PvP 4-15h a day.

Like they milk money from casuals such as yourself who think that ESO is a PvP game?

89M AP 1200CP

purple-magicb16_ESO

Would be terrible

We have pve, pvp and duelling. Why ask for something we already have that will potentially (I type this with a cheeky smile on my face) break the game?