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How to Resurrect With No Animation
brandonv516
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Got a video of a guy resurrecting his team member earlier and he did not have an animation for the action.
When my magelight discovered him, he was just standing there and his teammate got up and ran away.
Obviously no name and shame so that's all I got.
Is this a result of animation cancelling? This is either some crafty exploiting or a random bug. Happened on console.
When my magelight discovered him, he was just standing there and his teammate got up and ran away.
Obviously no name and shame so that's all I got.
Is this a result of animation cancelling? This is either some crafty exploiting or a random bug. Happened on console.
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✭✭✭✭✭You can't animation cancel a channel (like res) or it cancels the action.
More likely as he was hidden the game didn't generate the animations for you.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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Or an visual bug like sometimes then you teleport you don't animate.You can't animation cancel a channel (like res) or it cancels the action.
More likely as he was hidden the game didn't generate the animations for you.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Almariel✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploiting
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It's exploiting... so nothing will be done about it.Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploiting
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Goshua✭✭✭✭Need the video, would be hard to say anything about your experience without it.
Did you camp the corpse and have it in sight the whole time?
The process was probably completed when you discovered them and all the dead dude had left to do was to accept the res.
Edited by Goshua on May 26, 2017 9:11AM0 -
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✭✭✭Need the video, would be hard to say anything about your experience without it.
Did you camp the corpse and have it in sight the whole time?
The process was probably completed when you discovered them and all the dead dude had left to do was to accept the res.
Yep I was looking for the animation the entire time and nothing was showing.1 -
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How can an player know its not intentional to sneak while resurrecting?
It's exploiting... so nothing will be done about it.Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploitingGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploiting
wow - do people just call ANYTHING exploiting these days? Something that doesn't even give a real gameplay benefit and instead just visually looks weird lol.
Besides I have had it before where I revive people and the stream of light between my hand and their body doesn't appear, my guys doesn't do the pose or anything - the only indication I have of the fact I'm reviving is that the progress bar still shows up on my screen.
I doubt this is an exploit - and realistically there's no reason being able to revive in stealth is unfair - if anything that should be a mechanic to begin with so people can be legit combat medics.PSN ID (NA only): Zuzu_With_a_Z
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✭✭✭✭✭So you see a guy not animating resurrecting his buddy and instead of just killing him you chicken out and make a video.
Gotta watch out for you killers with cameras! lolEdited by TequilaFire on May 26, 2017 11:28AM1 -
Zaldan✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploiting
wow - do people just call ANYTHING exploiting these days? Something that doesn't even give a real gameplay benefit and instead just visually looks weird lol.
Besides I have had it before where I revive people and the stream of light between my hand and their body doesn't appear, my guys doesn't do the pose or anything - the only indication I have of the fact I'm reviving is that the progress bar still shows up on my screen.
I doubt this is an exploit - and realistically there's no reason being able to revive in stealth is unfair - if anything that should be a mechanic to begin with so people can be legit combat medics.
you're joking right? not being able to see enemy players rezing their dead doesn't have any gameplay benefit? lol
considering the number of abilities ZO$ have changed so they break stealth I'd say they disagree.3 -
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Well in this case they can't, which with my joking aside is why I don't think ZOS will deem it an exploit, I was more just poking fun.
How can an player know its not intentional to sneak while resurrecting?
It's exploiting... so nothing will be done about it.Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploiting
In regards to how a player could know, if ZOS got off their butts and maintained a known exploits list like other games have been known to do.
Once again I reference this same page: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/204873262-Known-Declared-Exploits
Neatly explains what is and isn't an exploit especially regarding the issues they can't just patch out.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭Maybe when you got there, the dead player was already resurrected (and he had the timing wheel) and was waiting for the right moment to get up, while his mate was waiting hidden to check on nearby enemies.
This maybe be why you didn't see any animation.
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My magplar with all the passives resurrects people so fast it would be easy to miss the animation.
The fact that the animation didn't play from stealth is not the player's fault or responsibility, too many witch hunters in this game.
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✭✭✭✭✭I love when people throw the term "exploiting" around like it is harmless...
This is in essence an animation cancel. It's a simple button combo to be pressed when resurrecting from stealth that allows you to stay stealthed and hides the beam. Just another small gameplay quirk that improves efficiency. Either zos notices it and fixes it, or simply allows it to stay in the game (they are more than likely already aware) like the did with combat animation cancelling.Edited by React on May 26, 2017 1:41PM@ReactSlower - PC/NA - 2000+ CP
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How can an player know its not intentional to sneak while resurrecting?
It's exploiting... so nothing will be done about it.Lieblingsjunge wrote: »If it's done correctly, you can stay in stealth(sneak) while ressurrecting a player. Probably not intentional but you can.
probably not intentional... so its exploiting
Because about a year and a half ago, ZoS actually changed it so that resurrecting another player would reveal you at the start of the animation, instead of the end of the animation. Patch note and all included.
There was an uproar about how it will kill small man and only help the zerg. You know, the usual.0 -
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✭You can reso while hidden.
Shouldn't be considered an exploit as its been a 'feature' in ESO for 1 year+.0 -
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✭Yes, you can animation cancel it in 3 different ways.
No, it's not an exploit.
If you see people doing something that you don't know it doesn't mean it's an exploit like the diamonds in this thread want you to believe.K1 The Big Monkey1 -
Hoked_on_ponix✭✭✭This is supper easy to do on consoles, all you have to do is put your weapon away and during the animation go for the resurrection. Quite simple. Helps a ton when you get zerged down and you go to res a buddy.0 -
jameson71✭✭I love when people throw the term "exploiting" around like it is harmless...
This is in essence an animation cancel. It's a simple button combo to be pressed when resurrecting from stealth that allows you to stay stealthed and hides the beam. Just another small gameplay quirk that improves efficiency. Either zos notices it and fixes it, or simply allows it to stay in the game (they are more than likely already aware) like the did with combat animation cancelling.
Care to share the button combo? I'd really like to "improve my efficiency."0 -
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✭✭Saw this the other day as well on NA PS4. I was waiting on the animation with a heavy attack venom arrow to stop the resurrection. The guy just stood there some I kept holding waiting. Then the guy on the ground got up. I killed both of them but still.0 -
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✭✭✭✭It could be kags on a templar, or on a nightblade who used cloak beforehand. I've seen both, and a templar specifically wearing kags with the alliance war passive has a .5 second res time. Food for thought.Edited by DocFrost72 on May 26, 2017 2:18PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Saw this the other day as well on NA PS4. I was waiting on the animation with a heavy attack venom arrow to stop the resurrection. The guy just stood there some I kept holding waiting. Then the guy on the ground got up. I killed both of them but still.
You killed them as most would, so where was their advantage?
You won't be holding heavy bow attack after Morrowind drops on PS4 as it will fire when charged.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭On Xbox one it happens quite often in dungeon groups or trials. I never have thought to it working in PvP.
I just thought it was something we did in groups so we didn't aggro. Sadly if it's not intended for PvP then ZeniMax needs to change how the resurrection works and not allow us to hide first and then Rez while technically being hidden.
What I'm saying is any cast or weapon action and skill would need to always remove stealth cause when I do it....it's simply....hide, wait till eye closes and adjust cursor and cast Rez.
The same can be said about a Nightblade fan or just a simple heavy weapon attack from a bow.
When I'm in PvP....very seldom, it's very often that another enemy players animations don't show if hidden until after they hit me or a player near me. Basically that's what's going on....you don't see anything until after the Rez "hits" but not upon the initial cast animation which oddly does show to them.
Seems just a design decision and if ppl feel it's cheating....maybe it needs to be changed.
ShrugEdited by NewBlacksmurf on May 26, 2017 2:30PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭brandonv516 wrote: »Got a video of a guy resurrecting his team member earlier and he did not have an animation for the action.
When my magelight discovered him, he was just standing there and his teammate got up and ran away.
Obviously no name and shame so that's all I got.
Is this a result of animation cancelling? This is either some crafty exploiting or a random bug. Happened on console.
ZOS has tried to eliminate the ability to rez while invisible. In October 2015 they thought they fixed it. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2398834#Comment_2398834
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223841/last-but-not-least-nerf-that-will-kill-smallscale/p1
Anyone that is rezing invisible knows the bug, but they will play dumb. Exploiting a glitch or bug is still against the TOS.
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✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »So you see a guy not animating resurrecting his buddy and instead of just killing him you chicken out and make a video.
Gotta watch out for you killers with cameras! lol
Actually it's real simple and doesn't impede combat to get a clip made on Xbox. Nice try though.0
