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what do you think about update 14?
Anunakis
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is anyone else got the feeling everyone got nerfed just for the newbies comfort? little difference between having champions on and off
pvp locked to non champion system in favor of newcomers , vet players still nerfed , 2 years of gaining champions wasted , 1 campaign 30 days long the rest is non champion
bots roam tamriel free not bothered by zenimax ... again
pvp locked to non champion system in favor of newcomers , vet players still nerfed , 2 years of gaining champions wasted , 1 campaign 30 days long the rest is non champion
bots roam tamriel free not bothered by zenimax ... again
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phairdon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Once upon a time, we had no CP. Just going to adjust accordingly.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)8 -
Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭- Sprint penalty while not moving is stupid. Regen shouldn't stop because you're holding the shift key - runners don't stop recovering simply because they're in the starting blocks.
- I'd still like to see some official word on what does and does not qualify as direct damage, as there are still some skills that are counterintuitive (Twisting Path).
- I didn't see anything about the BoL change, so they either reverted it, or they missed in the patch notes...
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS4 -
Goshua✭✭✭✭Apart from them killing repentance I think its mostly a change for the good.
I't would take more than a patch to alleviate most of the issues I have with this game, like moving my country closer to the US (not sure if worth it).0 -
Anunakis✭✭✭some of skills are not maxed as they were before update 14Edited by Anunakis on May 22, 2017 4:10PM0
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QuebraRegra✭✭✭✭✭
✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »- Sprint penalty while not moving is stupid. Regen shouldn't stop because you're holding the shift key - runners don't stop recovering simply because they're in the starting blocks.
- I'd still like to see some official word on what does and does not qualify as direct damage, as there are still some skills that are counterintuitive (Twisting Path).
- I didn't see anything about the BoL change, so they either reverted it, or they missed in the patch notes...
do AOEs count as direct damage?0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its a lot of rushed changes...but it seems the overall focus was to somehow related to Morrowind
I remember that combat system where you would swing 20 times but hit once until each particular skill was advanced.....the combat in this server style seems to have taken a strong resemblance from that game and explained as balance.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on May 22, 2017 4:26PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Yarlenzey✭✭✭✭I have been trying to access the EU server for an hour now, I keep timing out.
This is not a bug. This is a lack of investment in capacity.
The term 'online' implies 'instant access'. Queueing for access is batch process and by definition not 'online'.
Australian legislation (applicable worldwide) refers to 'fit for purpose'. Currently, this product does not meet this definition.
I got suspenders for saying "Testicular Mass" instead of "Balls". like, rilly.1 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Trying out new bow heavy attack with mixed feelings.
It seems I can miss now at point blank range. lol2 -
Anunakis✭✭✭QuebraRegra wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
- Sprint penalty while not moving is stupid. Regen shouldn't stop because you're holding the shift key - runners don't stop recovering simply because they're in the starting blocks.
- I'd still like to see some official word on what does and does not qualify as direct damage, as there are still some skills that are counterintuitive (Twisting Path).
- I didn't see anything about the BoL change, so they either reverted it, or they missed in the patch notes...
do AOEs count as direct damage?
if not ground targeting , i.e. steel tornado is modified by direct dmg but caltrops not1 -
Anunakis✭✭✭animations are even more clunky, while using daggers i feel like using 20kilos sledgehammers4
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pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have been trying to access the EU server for an hour now, I keep timing out.
This is not a bug. This is a lack of investment in capacity.
The term 'online' implies 'instant access'. Queueing for access is batch process and by definition not 'online'.
Australian legislation (applicable worldwide) refers to 'fit for purpose'. Currently, this product does not meet this definition.
Same applies in Ireland under the Sales of Goods Act. There's people talking on Xbox about sueing Zenimax for continuing to sell broken products aka VMOL1 -
Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭QuebraRegra wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »- Sprint penalty while not moving is stupid. Regen shouldn't stop because you're holding the shift key - runners don't stop recovering simply because they're in the starting blocks.
- I'd still like to see some official word on what does and does not qualify as direct damage, as there are still some skills that are counterintuitive (Twisting Path).
- I didn't see anything about the BoL change, so they either reverted it, or they missed in the patch notes...
do AOEs count as direct damage?
If it's a direct damage AOE like the Warden's Scorch or the DW Whirlwind then yeah. If it's an AOE DOT like the Destro Wall of Elements or the Sorc Liquid Lightning then no.0 -
Sabbathius✭✭✭✭Some stuff is good, I think. For example more XP from quests. Though I don't want to praise them for it, because I remember writing feedback on this very topic, in beta, 3 years ago.
Some stuff I'm largely ambivalent about. Such as them moving away from CP. Either grow some cojones and axe the whole thing and stop pu**yfooting about, or enable it game-wide and balance it properly. The whole CP/non-CP thing should NOT be happening. Especially when they are saying they don't want to balance PvE and PvP separately. And yet immediately, in the same breath, announce no-CP PvP for majority of content, and CP PvE for majority of content. Is that not separate balancing?
And some stuff I frankly loathe. Such as most of the balancing changes, but not even related to sustain. Like Grim Focus. Somehow they took an already obtuse ability, and in the process of buffing it made it even more obtuse. Same with Siphoning Strikes, they took something unique and beautiful and turned it into Rally For Stamina. Still better than previous iteration though.4 -
rez0055✭✭✭I quite like it , i've been playing an hour now and had no lag issues or whatsoever. Thumbs up for Zenimax.Characters
- Only-Drinks-With-Templars: Lvl 50 Argonian Magica Templar
- Bialozar: Lvl 50 Khajitt Stamina Nightblade
- Rez the Bald Sorceror: Lvl 50 Dark Elf Magica Sorceror
- Gerard Snow: Lvl 50 Dark Elf Magica Dragonknight
- Dorothea Black: Lvl 50 Imperial Stamina Templar
- Demon Cleaver: Lvl 50 Orc Stamina Warden
- Lord of BØnes: Lvl 50 Breton Magica Necromancer
PC/EU server. You'll find my characters hoping on and off on the plains of Cyrodil with the guild The Black.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Trying out new bow heavy attack with mixed feelings.
It seems I can miss now at point blank range. lol
realistic-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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They always kill things with nerfs and leaves you with nothing to look forward to.2
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sabbathius wrote: »Some stuff is good, I think. For example more XP from quests. Though I don't want to praise them for it, because I remember writing feedback on this very topic, in beta, 3 years ago.
Some stuff I'm largely ambivalent about. Such as them moving away from CP. Either grow some cojones and axe the whole thing and stop pu**yfooting about, or enable it game-wide and balance it properly. The whole CP/non-CP thing should NOT be happening. Especially when they are saying they don't want to balance PvE and PvP separately. And yet immediately, in the same breath, announce no-CP PvP for majority of content, and CP PvE for majority of content. Is that not separate balancing?
And some stuff I frankly loathe. Such as most of the balancing changes, but not even related to sustain. Like Grim Focus. Somehow they took an already obtuse ability, and in the process of buffing it made it even more obtuse. Same with Siphoning Strikes, they took something unique and beautiful and turned it into Rally For Stamina. Still better than previous iteration though.
@Sabbathius
Because they essentially didn't remove the Old Veteran System and identified VR as a problem but merged it into CP which was supposed to be a completely separate system to resolve the first system......Do you think their decisions previously continue to impact their direction going forward.
Maybe just remove both systems entirely without replacing it, initially?
Maybe that could've been Morrowind....Edited by NewBlacksmurf on May 22, 2017 4:43PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Trying out new bow heavy attack with mixed feelings.
It seems I can miss now at point blank range. lol
realistic
LOL yeah right, shoot straight at bear see arrow make left turn.
Staff targeting is just as bad on heavy attack, then again PC staff targeting feels completely different then on console.2 -
QuebraRegra✭✭✭✭✭
✭QuebraRegra wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »- Sprint penalty while not moving is stupid. Regen shouldn't stop because you're holding the shift key - runners don't stop recovering simply because they're in the starting blocks.
- I'd still like to see some official word on what does and does not qualify as direct damage, as there are still some skills that are counterintuitive (Twisting Path).
- I didn't see anything about the BoL change, so they either reverted it, or they missed in the patch notes...
do AOEs count as direct damage?
If it's a direct damage AOE like the Warden's Scorch or the DW Whirlwind then yeah. If it's an AOE DOT like the Destro Wall of Elements or the Sorc Liquid Lightning then no.
still confused then... what about SAP ESSENCE?0 -
Elsterchen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pretty normal patch day issues, FPS somewhere between 10-19, issues with guild traders not wanting to show there wares or not taking my selling orders, ppl obviously lagging out in PVP ... Strange thing tho I had a fight and my healthbar just quivered 2-3 mm before jumping back to full health (Not sure if the guy next to me was healing me like his life depended on it ... I said ty but i never got a replie - so pls do not tell Zeni endless-sustain is back, its just bugged)0 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just finished reading the patch notes and I am a little nervous now. I am a new player and all of my characters are still under level 50. I mostly solo. I'm worried about being able to survive boss fights now. I guess I'll see how it is after I get patched and try it.
I was very sad to see that with all of the housing fixes they did not allow guests with decoration privileges to add furniture. As before, this missing feature is keeping me and several other people I know from dropping a hundred bucks in crowns on a big home. C'mon, ZOS, this is easy stuff, even LOTRO has it.2 -
IcyDeadPeople✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭is anyone else got the feeling everyone got nerfed just for the newbies comfort?
I don't think any of these changes makes PVP or PVE easier for newbies, other than battlegrounds being strictly non-CP.
Edited by IcyDeadPeople on May 22, 2017 5:09PM3 -
Anunakis✭✭✭QuebraRegra wrote: »QuebraRegra wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
- Sprint penalty while not moving is stupid. Regen shouldn't stop because you're holding the shift key - runners don't stop recovering simply because they're in the starting blocks.
- I'd still like to see some official word on what does and does not qualify as direct damage, as there are still some skills that are counterintuitive (Twisting Path).
- I didn't see anything about the BoL change, so they either reverted it, or they missed in the patch notes...
do AOEs count as direct damage?
If it's a direct damage AOE like the Warden's Scorch or the DW Whirlwind then yeah. If it's an AOE DOT like the Destro Wall of Elements or the Sorc Liquid Lightning then no.
still confused then... what about SAP ESSENCE?
sap essence is dmg over time (DOT) and its direct so if u want maxed it out put some cp on direct dmg some on crit dmg and some on dot, test and see whats the best combination for you0 -
Lady_Tessa✭✭These are not good changes:
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Edited by Lady_Tessa on May 23, 2017 6:47PM2 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Their bad changes.
Either nerf the content to suit or reverse the nerfs, nothing more needs to be said. The stuff we predicted was gonna happen, is happening. The loss of DPS is making battles like Firemaw bottlenecks that most wont get past. Suck it up, folks. You were wrong, this isn't something you can just adapt your way past. Not without more trouble than it's worth.Edited by Doctordarkspawn on May 23, 2017 6:37PM3 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd say they're overall good.
At least from a pvp perspective, non cp pvp fixes a lot of imbalances.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
manustecta✭✭✭i am seriously thinking to uninstall this game and never again invest any more money in this game.
+ Thank you common sense that i never invest money in eso plus.Edited by manustecta on May 23, 2017 11:26PM"Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear."8
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