What did change in terms of best in slot gear?

AuT6GHad

Is Burning Spellweave still best in slot?
Is Scathing Mage still best in slot for NB?
Can you throw Black Rose into the trashcan?
Can you still use Bone Pirate in PVP?
What changed for Tanks?
etc.

Silver_Strider

1) BSW is BiS for DK still, not so much for other classes
2) Yes
3) No, if anything it's been made even better after all the sustain nerfs because it still makes constitution a better form of sustain than medium or light armor passives.
4) Bone Pirate hasn't changed much in PvP. It procs and you throw on a shield instead of having it proc while having a shield but that's really it.
5) Block cost has effectively doubled due to changes to blocking times, maling tanking trickier. Good tanks will adapt, bad ones will drop like flies.

Think I missed some things but got th bulk of it

Aedaryl

Silver_Strider wrote: »

1) BSW is BiS for DK still, not so much for other classes
2) Yes
3) No, if anything it's been made even better after all the sustain nerfs because it still makes constitution a better form of sustain than medium or light armor passives.
4) Bone Pirate hasn't changed much in PvP. It procs and you throw on a shield instead of having it proc while having a shield but that's really it.
5) Block cost has effectively doubled due to changes to blocking times, maling tanking trickier. Good tanks will adapt, bad ones will drop like flies.

Think I missed some things but got th bulk of it

Bone pirate is not pirate skeleton.

Bone pirate is very good yeah, and pirate skeleton is more balanced for damage shield users.

Silver_Strider

Aedaryl wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

1) BSW is BiS for DK still, not so much for other classes
2) Yes
3) No, if anything it's been made even better after all the sustain nerfs because it still makes constitution a better form of sustain than medium or light armor passives.
4) Bone Pirate hasn't changed much in PvP. It procs and you throw on a shield instead of having it proc while having a shield but that's really it.
5) Block cost has effectively doubled due to changes to blocking times, maling tanking trickier. Good tanks will adapt, bad ones will drop like flies.

Think I missed some things but got th bulk of it

Bone pirate is not pirate skeleton.

Bone pirate is very good yeah, and pirate skeleton is more balanced for damage shield users.

My mistake, got them confused.

Darlgon

Come back in a week. Ask again how to be godmode without effort.

Chilly-McFreeze

Silver_Strider wrote: »

3) No, if anything it's been made even better after all the sustain nerfs because it still makes constitution a better form of sustain than medium or light armor passives.

I quote myself from another thread:

"BR adds 35% constitution. On live 5pc heavy base constitution is 930 per 4 sec. With 5pc heavy + BR it's 1255 /4s. Means BR equals to an extra 162 stamina regen (every 2s). More than a full set-piece regen bonus. + 150 dmg and all stats. Sounds nice.

On PTS however constitution gets gutted by 42%, leaving a base constitution of 540 /4s. +35% via BR = 729/4s. Remains with an extra 94 stamina every 2 seconds.

Question is if 94 extra stam regen are worth the low 150 wpn dmg."


Might be better off to take a full damage set and just change out a jewlery glyph. Burst might become even more important since it get's harder to sustain longer fights. Kinda ruins my DoT build
It just seems better in comparison bc LA/MA sustain passives got reduced.
BUT if I am not mistaken Constitution is not affected by the new regen-syphoning cps, or is it?

Masel

First of all, you want to run 7 light now when you're not using a heavy attack build because you lose another 4% cost reduction and 8% recovery with 5/1/1. That will lead you to 16.2k health. You need at least 17k health to survive. Yes you have ebon in raids, but it will not save you from one-shots while wearing 7 light.

DK: Sun, with 7 light armor you want Sun. BSW is not better than sun. Then 2 light grothdarr and 3 MD/IA/Master Architect + double vMA staffs with drain magicka poison on the front bar one.

NB ranged: 5 Scathing, 2 Illambris(with force pulse)/Skoria, 3 IA/Willpower and also double sharpened vMA staffs.
Or melee with 5 Master Architect and soul harvest and funnel health, 3 WP, double vMA staffs and 2 Grothdarr.

Sorc: Depends on today's nerfs. If necro and pet still worth it then that, otherwise scathing mage.

Templar: 2 Grothdarr/Skoria, 5 Julianos and 5 Moondancer with 2 Swords and vMA inferno back bar.

A very good setup for all classes is 2 Grothdarr/Illambris, 5 Moondancer, 3 Willpower and double vMA staffs with a drain magicka poison on one of them. You can sustain very well with MD, but you need to keep popping synergies with it.

RoyJade

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Question is if 94 extra stam regen are worth the low 150 wpn dmg."

Might be better off to take a full damage set and just change out a jewlery glyph.
[...]
BUT if I am not mistaken Constitution is not affected by the new regen-syphoning cps, or is it?

Constitution isn't affected by the syphoning cp, and it work when holding block. It still had some great advantages comparing to raw regen.
On the other side, each regen boost is buffed by cp and regen increase passive, so it's really depend on your build.

Turelus

Alcast has some early builds up with gear/skills. https://alcasthq.com/

Also his testing videos show a lot of information about change in numbers and what's needed for sustain.
Others probably have material as well I just only really saw Alcast's stuff.

H3rBie

Masel92 wrote: »

Sorc: Depends on today's nerfs. If necro and pet still worth it then that, otherwise scathing mage.

what you guys think.. ? how will TBS or Julianos perform for sorc?

Feanor

I thought the new meta will revolve around Buckets and Brooms.