alkaheist vs lorkahns tears

Ep1kMalware

Seriously, just discovered I have 71k alkaheist. That's enough to make 1,136,000 poisons. I can't help but wonder whynwe aren't getting more lorkahn;s tears. With changes being being made to sustain why csn't we make some obvious adjustmentd.

Drop moar lorkhans tears. Increase potions made to 6 or 8.

Sakiri

Only 71k?

sdtlc

You got more alkahest cause it drops from the monsters, yes the ones in everyones spin2win corner, for the tears you have actually to make an interaction and pick them up.

I normaly sell the alkahest when it reaches 20k pieces

Prof_Bawbag

Alkahest needs to become part of writs. Maybe do away with the need for nirnroot 90% of the time and add that into the writ pool.

Turelus

Well if people switch to using drain poisons as Alcast has mentioned (and because he has more people will) then there is a chance for more demand on it.

However it's one of those items which doesn't have enough sinks vs faucets. I hoped that Homestread and the housing crafting would make items like this more required, but sadly not.

jakeedmundson

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Seriously, just discovered I have 71k alkaheist. That's enough to make 1,136,000 poisons. I can't help but wonder whynwe aren't getting more lorkahn;s tears. With changes being being made to sustain why csn't we make some obvious adjustmentd.

Drop moar lorkhans tears. Increase potions made to 6 or 8.

Sell it all... i did.

if you have 71k alkahest... it sells for 600g a stack to a merchant (of 200)

71k/200 = 355 stacks
355 stacks * 600 gold = 213,000 gold....
you got that essentially for picking up an abundant drop. If you need more later to actually use... farm it easy enough or just ask a buddy to give you a couple stacks.

Ep1kMalware

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Seriously, just discovered I have 71k alkaheist. That's enough to make 1,136,000 poisons. I can't help but wonder whynwe aren't getting more lorkahn;s tears. With changes being being made to sustain why csn't we make some obvious adjustmentd.

Drop moar lorkhans tears. Increase potions made to 6 or 8.

Sell it all... i did.

if you have 71k alkahest... it sells for 600g a stack to a merchant (of 200)

71k/200 = 355 stacks
355 stacks * 600 gold = 213,000 gold....
you got that essentially for picking up an abundant drop. If you need more later to actually use... farm it easy enough or just ask a buddy to give you a couple stacks.

Already did xD. I did the same simple equation and soldem all. I just think they could renovate drop rates/potion returns a little. 71k mats is.. a lot.. I am in bo way upset about it, but it jist seems unbalanced.

Avran_Sylt

It'd be nice if enchantments and poisons could be applied at the same time without suppressing one another.

neal_brasier

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Seriously, just discovered I have 71k alkaheist. That's enough to make 1,136,000 poisons. I can't help but wonder whynwe aren't getting more lorkahn;s tears. With changes being being made to sustain why csn't we make some obvious adjustmentd.

Drop moar lorkhans tears. Increase potions made to 6 or 8.

Sell it all... i did.

if you have 71k alkahest... it sells for 600g a stack to a merchant (of 200)

71k/200 = 355 stacks
355 stacks * 600 gold = 213,000 gold....
you got that essentially for picking up an abundant drop. If you need more later to actually use... farm it easy enough or just ask a buddy to give you a couple stacks.

Why did I never think of this! Got thousands sitting in my craft bag

xb1LL_mr_sir_LL

not gonna say how or why but alkahest are definitely worth keeping.

max_only

xb1LL_mr_sir_LL wrote: »

not gonna say how or why but alkahest are definitely worth keeping.

Suspense!

Ep1kMalware

max_only wrote: »

xb1LL_mr_sir_LL wrote: »

not gonna say how or why but alkahest are definitely worth keeping.

Suspense!

In b4 lightning wall.

freespirit

Yep come Monday those Alkahest may have a very legitimate use!

and as somebody mentioned they drop from mobs, tears you need to collect from water points or containers

starkerealm

freespirit wrote: »

Yep come Monday those Alkahest may have a very legitimate use!

and as somebody mentioned they drop from mobs, tears you need to collect from water points or containers

Or from these forums. Plenty of tears to be had here.

pod88kk

starkerealm wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Yep come Monday those Alkahest may have a very legitimate use!

and as somebody mentioned they drop from mobs, tears you need to collect from water points or containers

Or from these forums. Plenty of tears to be had here.

Lol brilliant

Ep1kMalware

pod88kk wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Yep come Monday those Alkahest may have a very legitimate use!

and as somebody mentioned they drop from mobs, tears you need to collect from water points or containers

Or from these forums. Plenty of tears to be had here.

Lol brilliant

I thought the same thing. But back on topic. I guess the crux of this thread was to discuss 2 things


Thing 1: With morrowind comming, sustain is so much more important. And potions are already a big deal, but soon they will be a REALLY big deal. I think it's time to open up the availability of tears a little. Alkaheist will have its place, but so will the tears. Let's make them a little more available. I think alkaheist is waaaaay to available, and that we should find a middle grounds.

Thing 2: poisons give 16 per manufacture. That's soooo many compared to the 4 potions. Now, before I go further I want you all to realize I am not asking for cooldown reductions. ..and that in no way be able to consume potions faster. What I am asking for specifically is can we increase the yield amount for our potions. I understand it is a proc chance with a cooldown, and that it is affected by the charged trait. So given its more limited use, but buff from weapon trait I am not asking for equality, but equillibrium. I am not asking that each mat will provide me with 16 spell power potions (although it would be nice). I am asking that with ,aximum assive they yield 6-8 potions instead. Because of the demand for these items already, and the growing demand to come, I think it's time we get this system up to speed, competatively with poisons.

^ let us also not forget that many times we use the same ingredients for both poisons amd potions. With 45 secomd cooldown timers, amd cp passive, poisons are already very strong. There is no cp or weapon trait buff to potions, so what harm is it in asking for matts to stretch just a little bit farther? Potions already are an expensive habbit, and I think with the upcomming mandatory use to use them all the time, making each mat stretch a hair further would do the community as a whole, a lot of good.

STEVIL

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Seriously, just discovered I have 71k alkaheist. That's enough to make 1,136,000 poisons. I can't help but wonder whynwe aren't getting more lorkahn;s tears. With changes being being made to sustain why csn't we make some obvious adjustmentd.

Drop moar lorkhans tears. Increase potions made to 6 or 8.

thats like 200k+ gold right? 3gmeach... so thats two ilambris helms right now.

pod88kk

They could give us an alchemy hireling to aid us in our expensive potion drinking habits

LadyLavina

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Seriously, just discovered I have 71k alkaheist. That's enough to make 1,136,000 poisons. I can't help but wonder whynwe aren't getting more lorkahn;s tears. With changes being being made to sustain why csn't we make some obvious adjustmentd.

Drop moar lorkhans tears. Increase potions made to 6 or 8.

Alkahest. Al-ka-hest. A-l-k-a-h-e-s-t