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Have to Purchase An Extra Character Slot for Morrowind?

Decon98b16_ESO
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Seriously?
It contains the Warden so to play it you need a character slot.
Pretty sad to do that to your player base
Edited by Decon98b16_ESO on May 18, 2017 7:05PM
  • Decon98b16_ESO
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    I guess I can delete one of character slots that I played for hours on end to avoid being nickeled by ZOS
  • Decon98b16_ESO
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    From the Steam Store:

    "The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind also includes all the original ESO content, so new players will have access to hundreds of hours of excitement throughout Tamriel. Existing players can choose to carry their characters over to Morrowind, or start fresh on a new adventure with a new face."

    Pretty sneaky wording - I guess that is why the Marketing Department people make the big bucks.



  • Panth141
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    Wot?

    You'll still have all of your characters and any empty slots can still be used for any class. Maximum character slots increasing from 12 to 14. Also, Warden, not Templar.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I don't think the upgrade adds a new slot

    The wording.....man, don't get me started with how misleading it could be for new or uninformed existing players

    *Just like prior dlc, you continue where you left off but it's not like existing characters are forced over to Morrowind, it's available if you want to
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on May 18, 2017 5:50PM
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  • leepalmer95
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    Panth141 wrote: »
    Wot?

    You'll still have all of your characters and any empty slots can still be used for any class. Maximum character slots increasing from 12 to 14. Also, Warden, not Templar.

    What happens if you have 8 characters 1 of each current classes magicka and stamina.

    Your then forced to buy at least 2 more slots just so you can make a stamina and magicka warden.


    I still think for the price of the dlc they could of included 2 slots if you buy morrowind.
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  • Oldar
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    Seriously?
    It contains the Templar so to play it you need a character slot.
    Pretty sad to do that to your player base
    I believe you wanted to write "It contains the Warden".

    They could grand an extra slot at least to all those who pre-order the Morrowind. That would be a very interesting move for many players to consider the pre-order option. They did not. They have their reasons I guess.

    On the other hand, I wonder myself why there have not a simple full package that include all the DLCs. There is the Normal Edition (only the basic game), the Golden Edition, the Imperial Edition, and the Adventure Mega DLC pack. None of them include all the released DLCs.

    I was curious why they do not create one simple Edition e.g. Golden Imperial Edition, with the basic game and all the DLCs up until now. That would be much more clearer to the new player who want to enter the game and not to loose a single DLC. It would be great for ZOS too as they would add much more to the popularity of the game.
    Edited by Oldar on May 18, 2017 6:00PM
  • Aimora
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    I really feel that as they were adding a new class a new character slot could have been added as standard or at very least with the collectors edition.
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    Panth141 wrote: »
    Wot?

    You'll still have all of your characters and any empty slots can still be used for any class. Maximum character slots increasing from 12 to 14. Also, Warden, not Templar.

    What happens if you have 8 characters 1 of each current classes magicka and stamina.

    Your then forced to buy at least 2 more slots just so you can make a stamina and magicka warden.


    I still think for the price of the dlc they could of included 2 slots if you buy morrowind.

    No one is "forcing" you to have a stam & mag version of every class in the game. That's your choice. (And heck, you're the first person I've seen going for "they could have given us TWO slots".... everyone else was just wishing for one.

    Choosing to run two of each class is just that - a choice.

    I mean, hey - why not say "well, I needed 24 slots, so I could have a Tank/DPS/Healer in Mag & Stam for each class. They could have given us six more slots for mag & stam Warden tank/dps/healers!" Cause you have to have every build, right? ;)
  • Maff
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    And this is why I won't buy Morrowind. Cash grab tactics aimed at players who put in the work to have 8+ characters. It's a dirty move i refuse to support.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Yes, if you try hard enough, literally anything can be interpreted as an attack on you. /shrug
  • ZeroZero77
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    If you have eso+ you can buy a additional Slot each month.

    If you have no eso+ but 8 Playchars, zenimax can spare you. (Hard but truth)
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  • jircris11
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    Seriously?
    It contains the Templar so to play it you need a character slot.
    Pretty sad to do that to your player base

    Or you can not have 2+ of the same class and have a free slot. Yes people get over your entitlement.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Panth141 wrote: »
    Wot?

    You'll still have all of your characters and any empty slots can still be used for any class. Maximum character slots increasing from 12 to 14. Also, Warden, not Templar.

    What happens if you have 8 characters 1 of each current classes magicka and stamina.

    Your then forced to buy at least 2 more slots just so you can make a stamina and magicka warden.


    I still think for the price of the dlc they could of included 2 slots if you buy morrowind.

    No one is "forcing" you to have a stam & mag version of every class in the game. That's your choice. (And heck, you're the first person I've seen going for "they could have given us TWO slots".... everyone else was just wishing for one.

    Choosing to run two of each class is just that - a choice.

    I mean, hey - why not say "well, I needed 24 slots, so I could have a Tank/DPS/Healer in Mag & Stam for each class. They could have given us six more slots for mag & stam Warden tank/dps/healers!" Cause you have to have every build, right? ;)

    So if you've played the game enough and have have 1 of each type of build magicka/stamina your forced to either delete your work or spend more money to actually play part of the content you pay for?

    The extra 4 buyable slots were for the 'tank/dps/healer thing.

    Base game = enough slots for 1 of each type of character.

    The dlc isn't cheap either, they're really grabbing money by not including this. Basically every other game will increase slots if they bring out a new character.
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  • Marto
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    Characters slots are currently sold for 15 dollars (1500 crowns).

    Adding a 15 dollar value extra to pre-orders seems to be a bit too much. Hence why you don't get free slots.
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  • ZeroZero77
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    it is no new info that the slots will cost crowns, 4 weeks ago there was a crown sale 40% off.

    Means for 21 Euros you could have 3 Character Slots and a Pet or so
    Edited by ZeroZero77 on May 18, 2017 6:51PM
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Aimora wrote: »
    I really feel that as they were adding a new class a new character slot could have been added as standard or at very least with the collectors edition.

    Many feel the same...I think that thread got locked back in January but....often times it's a choice
    -not to buy
    -not to upgrade
    -to delete a character if full
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  • Maff
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    Yes, if you try hard enough, literally anything can be interpreted as an attack on you. /shrug

    Then how do you interpret it? It's certainly not an oversight, so charging certain players additional money just to play the class that comes with the expansion is intentional.
    Do you have some insightful reasoning for why they wouldn't make Warden available to everyone at the same price, including those that have filled their character slots already, or are you just going to shrug because this doesn't affect you?
  • Oldar
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    ZeroZero77 wrote: »
    it is no new info that the slots will cost crowns, 4 weeks ago there was a crown sale 40% off.
    Means for 21 Euros you could have 3 Character Slots and a Pet or so
    Forgive me to ask this here: These types of sales are happen often in ESO? As a new player myself, a 40% off is a very good deal, at least from my perspective as I cannot afford an ESO+ subscription at the moment but I really want to unlock all the features this game has to offer.
    Edited by Oldar on May 19, 2017 10:20AM
  • ZeroZero77
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    Play since Christmas, was the first sale i saw.
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  • Sigma957
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    My eso+ subs already pays for the extra char slot if i need but it would have been nice to get a free char slot.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Maff wrote: »
    Yes, if you try hard enough, literally anything can be interpreted as an attack on you. /shrug

    Then how do you interpret it? It's certainly not an oversight, so charging certain players additional money just to play the class that comes with the expansion is intentional.
    Do you have some insightful reasoning for why they wouldn't make Warden available to everyone at the same price, including those that have filled their character slots already, or are you just going to shrug because this doesn't affect you?
    Uh, your entire logic is flawed.

    They're charging all players the same amount to play the class that comes with the expansion - the price of the expansion. You have the same options everyone else does:
    • Buy one or more slots
    • Delete one or more characters
    • Don't play the new class.
    It would be no different if you suddenly decided you wanted another DK/NB/Templar/Sorc in the current circumstance.

    Had they included the free slot, they would have increased the price accordingly, and those that don't have full characters would be upset for having to pay for another empty slot.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Wizball1987
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    Oldar wrote: »
    Forgive me to ask this here: These types of sales are happen often in ESO? As a new player myself, a 40% off is a very good deal, at least from my perspective as I cannot afford an ESO+ subscription at the moment but I really want to unlock all the features this game has to offer.
    Yeah how many sales have there been?
  • ZeroZero77
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    Looks like 2 per Year
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  • Fodore
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    Just delete a Templar or nightblade, it's not like you'll need them this patch
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  • Maff
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    Maff wrote: »
    Yes, if you try hard enough, literally anything can be interpreted as an attack on you. /shrug

    Then how do you interpret it? It's certainly not an oversight, so charging certain players additional money just to play the class that comes with the expansion is intentional.
    Do you have some insightful reasoning for why they wouldn't make Warden available to everyone at the same price, including those that have filled their character slots already, or are you just going to shrug because this doesn't affect you?
    Uh, your entire logic is flawed.

    They're charging all players the same amount to play the class that comes with the expansion - the price of the expansion. You have the same options everyone else does:
    • Buy one or more slots
    • Delete one or more characters
    • Don't play the new class.
    It would be no different if you suddenly decided you wanted another DK/NB/Templar/Sorc in the current circumstance.

    Had they included the free slot, they would have increased the price accordingly, and those that don't have full characters would be upset for having to pay for another empty slot.

    You missed an option off your list, [*] Use one of your empty character slots. People with that option pay less than I would have to.
    Also the last paragraph of your reply is saying it's unfair to charge everyone for extra slots but it's ok to charge people who have played long enough to have filled 8 slots? No idea why you would mention logic after typing that.

    Edited by Maff on May 19, 2017 1:30PM
  • Kodrac
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    I had to delete one of my characters. I demand compensation!!!
  • Belidos
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    You missed an option off your list, [*] Use one of your empty character slots. People with that option pay less than I would have to.

    No. You have "Delete one or more characters" in place of the "Use one of your empty character slots", you have exactly the same number of options, at the same cost as everybody else.

    What i see so far in this thread is people calling ZOs out for being "greedy", when their own arguments are not only greedy but grossly entitled.
    Edited by Belidos on May 19, 2017 1:50PM
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Maff wrote: »
    Maff wrote: »
    Yes, if you try hard enough, literally anything can be interpreted as an attack on you. /shrug

    Then how do you interpret it? It's certainly not an oversight, so charging certain players additional money just to play the class that comes with the expansion is intentional.
    Do you have some insightful reasoning for why they wouldn't make Warden available to everyone at the same price, including those that have filled their character slots already, or are you just going to shrug because this doesn't affect you?
    Uh, your entire logic is flawed.

    They're charging all players the same amount to play the class that comes with the expansion - the price of the expansion. You have the same options everyone else does:
    • Buy one or more slots
    • Delete one or more characters
    • Don't play the new class.
    It would be no different if you suddenly decided you wanted another DK/NB/Templar/Sorc in the current circumstance.

    Had they included the free slot, they would have increased the price accordingly, and those that don't have full characters would be upset for having to pay for another empty slot.

    You missed an option off your list, [*] Use one of your empty character slots. People with that option pay less than I would have to.
    Also the last paragraph of your reply is saying it's unfair to charge everyone for extra slots but it's ok to charge people who have played long enough to have filled 8 slots? No idea why you would mention logic after typing that.
    The point being, @Maff , is that you have the same options everyone else has. You may not like them, but they're still options. You're not obligated to pay more, as you'd have it sound.

    Realistically , I suspect there are more people with < 8 characters than their are with. No one's getting a discount, which is how you're making it sound. Everyone's making a choice.

    Again, it's no different than if you chose to make a new existing class. You either open the slot, or you purchase another. There will always be a max character limit, so if you want something different, you make a choice.

    I've had my slots filled for some time, had purchased 3 more for new builds, and recently added one for purposes of Warden.

    I get not wanting to invalidate hours of progression on a character - it's why I chose to purchase additional slots, vice deleting an alt.

    What I have recommended in the past was an option to export a character, account bound of course (sorry, no selling), and freeing up the space. This could be a crown store feature I think people could get into, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

    If you had max characters (12, not 8) and they did not give the option to expand by 2, then you would be forced to delete an alt and you'd have valid complaint.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Panth141 wrote: »
    Wot?

    You'll still have all of your characters and any empty slots can still be used for any class. Maximum character slots increasing from 12 to 14. Also, Warden, not Templar.

    I do agree with the OP that they should have included one free character slot with the expansion if only to allow players to fully enjoy the expansion that in some cases they paid $100 for. Also because it would create a sense of balance: 3 characters for each class at the 15 character maximum. Right now there is a sense of imbalance that I'm sure is driving some obsessive-compulsives crazy out there. In my case I simply find it annoying that I can only add 2 and not 3, but fortunately I can just throw the other build on either my Euro-account or an alternate account. Its less than ideal though. I really wish they would expand the character list a lot more, and I know that I am not the only one. All of that being said it is still their game, I'm just giving personal feedback here on what I would have preferred.
    Edited by dodgehopper_ESO on May 19, 2017 2:04PM
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    Maff wrote: »
    And this is why I won't buy Morrowind. Cash grab tactics aimed at players who put in the work to have 8+ characters. It's a dirty move i refuse to support.

    Want to group in Vvardenfell and quest on Monday for the Early Access?
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