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NB one shot in pvp

Rikkof
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Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers
  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.
    The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare
      EP CP810 Nightblade
      AD CP810 Templar
      AD CP810 Dragon Knight
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      DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
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    Shadow hide you. -Unknown
    There is no clean fight in a war. -Shun Izaki
  • Rikkof
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    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....
  • Didgerion
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    The gankers on the other hand have 0 chance against a shield stacker sorc where 1 recasted shields negates all their combos and one curse or destro heavy attack pools them out of stealth.

    This game needs a lot of balances. What should gang builds do if they cannot gang-kill their targets?
    Edited by Didgerion on May 17, 2017 7:11PM
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    I could one shot you with my Templar.

    That said ... how much health and resistance do you have? What's your CP and gear? Character type?

    NBs are built to be stealth assassins. The question, however, is are you built to deal with them? I am. The only way someone is "one shotting" me is if I'm unshielded on a ballista and a pizza is delivered at the exact time someone destro ultimates me.
  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Um. Please reread what I wrote, dear friend.

    NB gankers' damage from stealth will be reduced significantly since ZoS will be removing stealth damage bonus when Morrowind goes Live.
    The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare
      EP CP810 Nightblade
      AD CP810 Templar
      AD CP810 Dragon Knight
      AD Lvl 25 Sorceror
      DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
    {PC•NA•no-CP Ravenwatch}

    Shadow hide you. -Unknown
    There is no clean fight in a war. -Shun Izaki
  • Voxicity
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    Funny because you made this thread 5 minutes after I just ganked a bunch of people in TF EU :D
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....

    Did you pick this game up this week? NB is pretty much universally regarded as the weakest class, and you want to nerf the only thing they are generally good at.
  • idk
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    While there are changes they will reduce damage from stealth, if your dying in the stun it doesn't sound like a one shot.

    I've never liked the idea of being able to stun a player and kill them before they could break out. It doesn't take skill to do that. Hopefully the upcoming changes will help that.

    It admit, I've run the builds and in another game that was likely deigned it was what someone ran to be really effective. I just didn't see myself beIng able to kills players in that manner as being skilled.

    Ice is correct about the counter in the post below.
    Edited by idk on May 17, 2017 7:13PM
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    Right now there is a very easy counter open to everyone, just sacrifice one ability slot for radiant magelight (or give up inner light for the radiant morph). It's very difficult to gank anyone with radiant magelight slotted because it cuts the sneak attack damage in half and removes the stun.

    Next patch, radiant magelight is nerfed, but also sneak attack bonus damage is nerfed, so not sure yet how this will play out.
  • DocFrost72
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    How much health do you have?
    What are your resistances?
    What is your crit resistance?
    How much CP do you have?
    Are you using Radiant Magelight?
    What is your ping?
    Are you traveling alone?
    Do you have self healing?

    Doing as much of the above as you can negates an entire playstyle. For every bit as frustrated as you are now, there's a ganker that watches his target go from 3% health to 100% and stay there, dragging them out of stealth until they finally run out of resources and die to their target.

    Edited by DocFrost72 on May 17, 2017 7:13PM
  • alexkdd99
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    Radiant magelight, check it out. And gank builds are being nerfed with Morrowind
  • Didgerion
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    I could one shot you with my Templar.

    That said ... how much health and resistance do you have? What's your CP and gear? Character type?

    NBs are built to be stealth assassins. The question, however, is are you built to deal with them? I am. The only way someone is "one shotting" me is if I'm unshielded on a ballista and a pizza is delivered at the exact time someone destro ultimates me.

    I think he is a shield stacker sorc in LA with no impen resistance.
    Edited by Didgerion on May 17, 2017 7:14PM
  • CTSCold
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    The problem is proc sets not nightblades. Stealth dmg bonus won't matter when your still getting hit by viper and red mountain at the same time as a snipe and an invasion reverb with ultimate (all of which is available to every stam class)

    Proc sets are the problem.
  • Didgerion
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    While there are changes they will reduce damage from stealth, if your dying in the stun it doesn't sound like a one shot.

    I've never liked the idea of being able to stun a player and kill them before they could break out. It doesn't take skill to do that. Hopefully the upcoming changes will help that.

    It admit, I've run the builds and in another game that was likely deigned it was what someone ran to be really effective. I just didn't see myself beIng able to kills players in that manner as being skilled.

    Ice is correct about the counter in the post below.

    Who said they are reducing the damage from stealth? They are reducing the damage from sneak not from stealth.
  • vamp_emily
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    I'm sure it is a learn to play issue.

    I think in Vet Campaigns my nickname is "Candy" because I'm running around with all divines and with 15k health. I bet when gankers see me they think.. "yummy, it is emily again".

    One day I will upgrade my gear.

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
    AW Rank: Grand Warlord 1 ( level 49)

  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    I could one shot you with my Templar.

    That said ... how much health and resistance do you have? What's your CP and gear? Character type?

    NBs are built to be stealth assassins. The question, however, is are you built to deal with them? I am. The only way someone is "one shotting" me is if I'm unshielded on a ballista and a pizza is delivered at the exact time someone destro ultimates me.

    I think he is a shield stacker sorc in LA with no impen resistance.

    Ahhh ... the old paper defense trick.

    So this really should be the, "Some jerk hit me during the only time my likely overpowered build might have an issue defending myself, because I don't actually understand game mechanics" thread.
  • Rikkof
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....

    Did you pick this game up this week? NB is pretty much universally regarded as the weakest class, and you want to nerf the only thing they are generally good at.

    I don't see how can you say this , that they are so bad, when they ONE SHOT PLAYERS inside a stun!!!!
    Are we even playing the same game ?
    STUN>DEAD
    Reason: nb gank stealth
  • cyx54tc
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....

    Did you pick this game up this week? NB is pretty much universally regarded as the weakest class, and you want to nerf the only thing they are generally good at.

    I don't see how can you say this , that they are so bad, when they ONE SHOT PLAYERS inside a stun!!!!
    Are we even playing the same game ?
    STUN>DEAD
    Reason: nb gank stealth

    any class can stealth gank. Just because most ppl pick NB as ganker make you want nerf NB.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....

    Did you pick this game up this week? NB is pretty much universally regarded as the weakest class, and you want to nerf the only thing they are generally good at.

    I don't see how can you say this , that they are so bad, when they ONE SHOT PLAYERS inside a stun!!!!
    Are we even playing the same game ?
    STUN>DEAD
    Reason: nb gank stealth

    Once again, explain your build. Anyone can one shot someone else on a bad build. If you explain your set up rationally, I'm sure one of us will be happy to explain a few minor tricks to help you the next time.

    It's certainly a better option than nerfing 25% of the playerbase.
  • Rikkof
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    How much health do you have?
    What are your resistances?
    What is your crit resistance?
    How much CP do you have?
    Are you using Radiant Magelight?
    What is your ping?
    Are you traveling alone?
    Do you have self healing?

    Doing as much of the above as you can negates an entire playstyle. For every bit as frustrated as you are now, there's a ganker that watches his target go from 3% health to 100% and stay there, dragging them out of stealth until they finally run out of resources and die to their target.

    one shot in pvp from stealth ... andc u place a list of questions that has nothing to do with it
    What part of "I DIE IN THE STUN" YOU DONT manage to read properly, sir?

    DEVELOPERS REALLY NEED TO LOOK STRONGLY AT THIS ONE AS IT IS BREAKING THE GAME, BADLYYYYYYYYYY
    rADIANMT MAGELIGHT....I AM SUPOSED TO CONSTANTLY SPAM THAT ABILITY EVEN WHEN I AM ALONE, just because...
    Is your NB needing to spam an ability like this also? Yes/No?
    See the problem?
    I am in the midle of afield, no one near me, i get one shot from stealth by an OP , and you ask me of magelight????
  • Rikkof
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....

    Did you pick this game up this week? NB is pretty much universally regarded as the weakest class, and you want to nerf the only thing they are generally good at.

    I don't see how can you say this , that they are so bad, when they ONE SHOT PLAYERS inside a stun!!!!
    Are we even playing the same game ?
    STUN>DEAD
    Reason: nb gank stealth

    Once again, explain your build. Anyone can one shot someone else on a bad build. If you explain your set up rationally, I'm sure one of us will be happy to explain a few minor tricks to help you the next time.

    It's certainly a better option than nerfing 25% of the playerbase.

    I dont need to explain you anything, sir
    One shot in pvp has to go, has to disapear
    NB one shots needs to be nerfed, sorry but this is the truth, the build must be looked up imediatly by the developers, NOW, not when Morrowing come ( IF they will do it, even...)
    It is breaking the game
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    How much health do you have?
    What are your resistances?
    What is your crit resistance?
    How much CP do you have?
    Are you using Radiant Magelight?
    What is your ping?
    Are you traveling alone?
    Do you have self healing?

    Doing as much of the above as you can negates an entire playstyle. For every bit as frustrated as you are now, there's a ganker that watches his target go from 3% health to 100% and stay there, dragging them out of stealth until they finally run out of resources and die to their target.

    one shot in pvp from stealth ... andc u place a list of questions that has nothing to do with it
    What part of "I DIE IN THE STUN" YOU DONT manage to read properly, sir?

    DEVELOPERS REALLY NEED TO LOOK STRONGLY AT THIS ONE AS IT IS BREAKING THE GAME, BADLYYYYYYYYYY
    rADIANMT MAGELIGHT....I AM SUPOSED TO CONSTANTLY SPAM THAT ABILITY EVEN WHEN I AM ALONE, just because...
    Is your NB needing to spam an ability like this also? Yes/No?
    See the problem?
    I am in the midle of afield, no one near me, i get one shot from stealth by an OP , and you ask me of magelight????

    Dude, calm down.

    He asked you those questions because ALL OF THEM can prevent this situation. I'm bored at work. Answer them and I'll tell you exactly how to fix your issue.
  • WalksonGraves
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    I was so sure this thread was a NB complaining, because that would be a legitimate grievance.

    Magelight is passive, you just don't know how pvp works. You take zero anti stealth measures and probably have low hp what did you expect?
    Edited by WalksonGraves on May 17, 2017 7:28PM
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Don't worry.
    I think you'd be happy to know that stealth damage bonus will be removed come Morrowind.

    I dunno what will be removed in Morrowing, i do know that these one shot bonanza from Nightblade gankers needs to stop today, not when Morrowing launches
    This is not pvp ....

    Did you pick this game up this week? NB is pretty much universally regarded as the weakest class, and you want to nerf the only thing they are generally good at.

    I don't see how can you say this , that they are so bad, when they ONE SHOT PLAYERS inside a stun!!!!
    Are we even playing the same game ?
    STUN>DEAD
    Reason: nb gank stealth

    Once again, explain your build. Anyone can one shot someone else on a bad build. If you explain your set up rationally, I'm sure one of us will be happy to explain a few minor tricks to help you the next time.

    It's certainly a better option than nerfing 25% of the playerbase.

    I dont need to explain you anything, sir
    One shot in pvp has to go, has to disapear
    NB one shots needs to be nerfed, sorry but this is the truth, the build must be looked up imediatly by the developers, NOW, not when Morrowing come ( IF they will do it, even...)
    It is breaking the game

    Answer me 1 question.

    How much health do you have?

    Someone would have to hit me for 30k damage to one shot me. If you're at 25 plus, sure, we have an issue. If you're at, say, 11k it's on you.
    Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on May 17, 2017 7:28PM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    If you run around with minimum health and no impen any class can gank you instantly .
  • Rikkof
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    How much health do you have?
    What are your resistances?
    What is your crit resistance?
    How much CP do you have?
    Are you using Radiant Magelight?
    What is your ping?
    Are you traveling alone?
    Do you have self healing?

    Doing as much of the above as you can negates an entire playstyle. For every bit as frustrated as you are now, there's a ganker that watches his target go from 3% health to 100% and stay there, dragging them out of stealth until they finally run out of resources and die to their target.

    one shot in pvp from stealth ... andc u place a list of questions that has nothing to do with it
    What part of "I DIE IN THE STUN" YOU DONT manage to read properly, sir?

    DEVELOPERS REALLY NEED TO LOOK STRONGLY AT THIS ONE AS IT IS BREAKING THE GAME, BADLYYYYYYYYYY
    rADIANMT MAGELIGHT....I AM SUPOSED TO CONSTANTLY SPAM THAT ABILITY EVEN WHEN I AM ALONE, just because...
    Is your NB needing to spam an ability like this also? Yes/No?
    See the problem?
    I am in the midle of afield, no one near me, i get one shot from stealth by an OP , and you ask me of magelight????

    Dude, calm down.

    He asked you those questions because ALL OF THEM can prevent this situation. I'm bored at work. Answer them and I'll tell you exactly how to fix your issue.

    i ahve nothing to explain to you
    i get stuned then i am dead, period
    this needs to be looked up imediatly, THIS IS NOT PVP IN TEH SLIGHTEST
    Explain why so many NB around if you state that they are so bad?
    I tell you why?
    ONE SHOT GANK ABUSE, thats why.....NB is not bad , on the contrary....
    I play manyyyyy gamesssss, in none of those i have whitnesed such a falacy such as here, stun>dead....
  • Voxicity
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    At first I read the thread with some respect, then after reading OP's further comments I can see this is purely a L2P issue.
    Edited by Voxicity on May 17, 2017 7:31PM
  • WalksonGraves
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    How much health do you have?
    What are your resistances?
    What is your crit resistance?
    How much CP do you have?
    Are you using Radiant Magelight?
    What is your ping?
    Are you traveling alone?
    Do you have self healing?

    Doing as much of the above as you can negates an entire playstyle. For every bit as frustrated as you are now, there's a ganker that watches his target go from 3% health to 100% and stay there, dragging them out of stealth until they finally run out of resources and die to their target.

    one shot in pvp from stealth ... andc u place a list of questions that has nothing to do with it
    What part of "I DIE IN THE STUN" YOU DONT manage to read properly, sir?

    DEVELOPERS REALLY NEED TO LOOK STRONGLY AT THIS ONE AS IT IS BREAKING THE GAME, BADLYYYYYYYYYY
    rADIANMT MAGELIGHT....I AM SUPOSED TO CONSTANTLY SPAM THAT ABILITY EVEN WHEN I AM ALONE, just because...
    Is your NB needing to spam an ability like this also? Yes/No?
    See the problem?
    I am in the midle of afield, no one near me, i get one shot from stealth by an OP , and you ask me of magelight????

    Dude, calm down.

    He asked you those questions because ALL OF THEM can prevent this situation. I'm bored at work. Answer them and I'll tell you exactly how to fix your issue.

    i ahve nothing to explain to you
    i get stuned then i am dead, period
    this needs to be looked up imediatly, THIS IS NOT PVP IN TEH SLIGHTEST
    Explain why so many NB around if you state that they are so bad?
    I tell you why?
    ONE SHOT GANK ABUSE, thats why.....NB is not bad , on the contrary....
    I play manyyyyy gamesssss, in none of those i have whitnesed such a falacy such as here, stun>dead....

    "The mote also reveals hidden or invisible enemies, prevents being stunned by stealth attacks, and reduces damage from stealth attacks by 56% for you and nearby allies."
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    Why is allowed for NB to one shot players in pvp from stealth?
    You die IN THE STUN, there is no way out, unless you wear full plate and strong resists ( a tank)
    I think this needs to be patched imediatly as it is not healthy for the game as a whole,. being able to 100 to 0 in a mater of 2 seconds without the otehr player being able to react is just atrocious
    The damage they do is too high WHILE the stuned player cant even react
    And no, no one runs with perma shield against these gankers

    How much health do you have?
    What are your resistances?
    What is your crit resistance?
    How much CP do you have?
    Are you using Radiant Magelight?
    What is your ping?
    Are you traveling alone?
    Do you have self healing?

    Doing as much of the above as you can negates an entire playstyle. For every bit as frustrated as you are now, there's a ganker that watches his target go from 3% health to 100% and stay there, dragging them out of stealth until they finally run out of resources and die to their target.

    one shot in pvp from stealth ... andc u place a list of questions that has nothing to do with it
    What part of "I DIE IN THE STUN" YOU DONT manage to read properly, sir?

    DEVELOPERS REALLY NEED TO LOOK STRONGLY AT THIS ONE AS IT IS BREAKING THE GAME, BADLYYYYYYYYYY
    rADIANMT MAGELIGHT....I AM SUPOSED TO CONSTANTLY SPAM THAT ABILITY EVEN WHEN I AM ALONE, just because...
    Is your NB needing to spam an ability like this also? Yes/No?
    See the problem?
    I am in the midle of afield, no one near me, i get one shot from stealth by an OP , and you ask me of magelight????

    Dude, calm down.

    He asked you those questions because ALL OF THEM can prevent this situation. I'm bored at work. Answer them and I'll tell you exactly how to fix your issue.

    i ahve nothing to explain to you
    i get stuned then i am dead, period
    this needs to be looked up imediatly, THIS IS NOT PVP IN TEH SLIGHTEST
    Explain why so many NB around if you state that they are so bad?
    I tell you why?
    ONE SHOT GANK ABUSE, thats why.....NB is not bad , on the contrary....
    I play manyyyyy gamesssss, in none of those i have whitnesed such a falacy such as here, stun>dead....

    Why are you being so combative? I'm literally trying to help.

    It sounds to me like you just have a crap build. If you don't want to provide evidence to the contrary then I'll just assume I'm right. Meanwhile, if you have a good build maybe there is something that can be fixed through a rational discussion.
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Um. Please reread what I wrote, dear friend.

    NB gankers' damage from stealth will be reduced significantly since ZoS will be removing stealth damage bonus when Morrowind goes Live.

    It's just the bonus damage from light or heavy attacks while in stealth and out of combat that is going away. That's those 50k heavy attacks with a 2h. Nightblades will still be 100-0 in 1 sec with a proper opening combo, and they still do on PTS.
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
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