Do you use pre-made builds, or make your own?

firedrgn

vrine wrote: »

This is a subject I've discussed many times with my friends, but I would love to hear from more people!
Do you create your own builds? Or do you use Deltia's builds? Or a bit of both?
I'd love to hear why as well! I know some people take pride in making their own, while others (like myself) use Deltia's builds as they're decent and straight-forward.

I watch his videos. I like Gilliam the rouge for in depth videos.
I also watch alcast and frengrush.

Seems like the game changes faster than I can mine for meta gear.
Meta gear for the most part is locked behind group play. I hope that changes but for now I just use crafted and over land sets.

Floki_Vilgerdarson

"De Mortuis Nil Nisi Bonum".

Tornaad

Other (please tell!)

Mady wrote: »

Alcast for life!

I don't know about for life but I do like his builds way better than Deltia's.

SnubbS

I make my own

Deltia is pretty much what got me into the game—he taught more people how play Elder Scrolls Online than any tutorial ever could. I used his builds for the first couple months I played the game—then I shifted onto whatever the meta build was/is. There are times where I try to optimize things for myself, try to make them better, but there's no reason to not follow what someone else has done if it makes you the most effective player you can be.

HarlotsLoki

Other (please tell!)

I actually forgot to mention Woeler in my first post. His tanking knowledge and guides are excellent.

rotaugen454

I use Deltia's builds as a reference but make it my own

I found Deltia webpage to be quite helpful as a guide and a starting point. I use several streamers, depending on what I am looking for.
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scorpiodog

I make my own

vrine wrote: »

This is a subject I've discussed many times with my friends, but I would love to hear from more people!
Do you create your own builds? Or do you use Deltia's builds? Or a bit of both?
I'd love to hear why as well! I know some people take pride in making their own, while others (like myself) use Deltia's builds as they're decent and straight-forward.

Any good build is doomed the second it is published.
If it's good thousands of people will start using. The when it starts killing people they will know exactly why and start complaining about it and within a year it's nerfed. People also make counters to popular OP builds. On top of all that, the cost of jewelery for these new fancy builds suddenly goes through the roof.

Far better to keep your build a secret and even wear a costume. Personally the only reason I'd publish a build was if I had a stockpile of the jewelery and wanted to sell it for a fortune.

Avalon

I use Deltia's builds as a reference but make it my own

I look at his builds, then I check out the foundry, then poke around on the forums here, get drunk, doodle some, have a weird dream, stare at some books and watch movies... then, build my own stuff but with a bit of everything thrown in?

neal_brasier

This is the most salty thread I've ever seen massive amounts of jealousy coming out here

Thorvarg

It's a Lemming's World

starkerealm

I make my own

R_K wrote: »

What's a Deltia and is it treatable?

"I want to buy that poster an undead werewolf."

Xundiin

Other (please tell!)

I go to Tamriel Foundry and see what the current meta is, then make a build that is based off those that I find works for me. A lot of time "meta" builds are over complicated just to get an extra 5k DPS that isn't really needed to complete any content in game.

BlackPhillip

Other (please tell!)

My builds are a combo between deltia/alcasthq

Xariz

Other (please tell!)

I use Alcasts. I have never had luck making my own builds and when I try to I go to PvP and get spanked almost instantly. Would love to use my own build but I just can't seem to build something good. Which sucks haha not sure what I need to do but for now Alcast is a pretty solid creator.

ObsidianMichi

I make my own

Deltia never gave me anything except depression.

MyKillv2.0

I make my own

I am highly disappointed that Fengrush, Alcast,Kevin, someone... hasn't trolled this topic with a vote of either "I use Deltia's builds" or "my own" and make a tongue in cheek remark. But alas they are probably playing this new MMO called "real life" and not trolling the forums like the rest of us.

FluffyReachWitch

I make my own

I look up gear sets and abilities and experiment to find what works for me. It was a while before I found the gear I was looking for and got used to my rotation, but in the end I settled on a flexible heal/tank front bar (switching as needed), splash damage second bar build.

grim_tactics

I use Deltia's builds as a reference but make it my own

neal_brasier wrote: »

This is the most salty thread I've ever seen massive amounts of jealousy coming out here

Don't think you meant jealousy..... I mean, I don't detect any jealousy in here.

You either like Deltia or you don't.

Some are more vocal about it than others.

What's there to be jealous of?

SneaK

Never been a sheeple.

Nothing but props to Deltia though for bringing more people to the game, and for helping people catch on so they would keep playing. It's a shame that so many of the faces that used to promote this game and community have left. I completely understand though, it'd be tough to struggle though making content when you aren't enjoying it.

dday3six

Velvelya wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

Please.

You work your *** off in a factory or laying brick, not sitting on your rump playing video games, I know I have done both in my very long life.

Personally I could give two figs what you or anyone else appreciates. Deltia had a unhinged, food flying from his mouth rant on YouTube, and called anyone that disagreed with him in chat a "crapmuncher", (paraphrasing) and worse, not to mention the Bizzaro mock funeral held for his Templar ....I don't know if he was channeling Shia LaBeouf or what, but it was downright

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If you really want to witness unhinged behavior. Ask them about the trolls they believe go out of their way and buy new copies ESO just to get multiple alts to troll the forums with.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4099457#Comment_4099457

Vipstaakki

I make my own

I'm just glad Deltia is gone now. I never thought the problem would get rid of itself.

DragonBound

People are just wrong here, while deltia and alcast have amazing builds that does not mean they work for everyone, anyways people who are claiming deltias builds are bad are just wrong, they are just outdated. Also people need to get off their high horse, I think people are just jealous as how he makes his money, get over it, everyone is trying to do the same thing on this planet, and it was his right to quit, he does focus on other things then video games he has a life people.

alsuran

I use Deltia's builds

I started with the builds from Deltia and I still have a couple of toons based on them. I prefer them mostly because he also mentions gear that can be crafted or bought. I don't have the patience or time to farm for BIS sets. I make changes to them so that I enjoy the gameplay, adding or removing skills, so they're not 100% his in the end, but I will still give credit where it is due. I still look at his site first, because it's so beginner friendly and I don't expect to get the best build ever because of that.

Balamoor

Other (please tell!)

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

Jitterbug wrote: »

Lastly, I'll say that though I am not a fan of Deltia I don't appreciate people knocking him on the forums. Bad form.
He worked his proverbial and literal ass off to cover this game and has made a very convoluted and tbh weird combat and skill system available to newer players. Don't want to study for a degree in eso theorycrafting? Just watch Deltia.
Same goes for Sypher. His displays of PvP skills have spawned dreams and ambitions in many new players and you really can't measure the value of that.

Personally I could give two figs what you or anyone else appreciates. Deltia had a unhinged, food flying from his mouth rant on YouTube, and called anyone that disagreed with him in chat a "crapmuncher", (paraphrasing) and worse, not to mention the Bizzaro mock funeral held for his Templar ....I don't know if he was channeling Shia LaBeouf or what, but it was downright weird.

Burying the templar was a joke. It was funny and was intended to be so. If you can't see that and don't find it funny, that's on you, no one else. As for his quitting ESO video, that was no rant. It was, if anything, somewhat regretful,. The man's life changed forever when his son was born, and he's clearly trying to make better life choices even if hard for him. To condemn him for that is really ugly stuff.

@ZOS_GinaBruno, whatever happened to no naming and shaming in these forums?

1: Deltia is a public figure, so open to scrutiny, hence no naming and shaming especially when the rant is still available despite Deltia trying to delete it.

2: I'm not the only one who found the mock funeral weird.

3: What does having a kid even have to do with the conversation

4: As long as these "all praise Deltia" threads happen, you can expect not everyone agreeing with you.

Pwnyridah

Other (please tell!)

Alcast, Yolo Wizard.

Thannazzar

I make my own

My experience is that the OP mentioned streamer builds tended towards minmaxed vma boardleader aspired players. I prefer builds that contribute to team performance in group content. The builds I have viewed were more competing with other dps in a trial than supporting the group.

Avalon

I use Deltia's builds as a reference but make it my own

I cannot find any tank builds on Alcast, though, or healer builds... just damage dealers. Am I missing something?

Wolfenbelle

I use Deltia's builds as a reference but make it my own

Balamoor wrote: »

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

Jitterbug wrote: »

Lastly, I'll say that though I am not a fan of Deltia I don't appreciate people knocking him on the forums. Bad form.
He worked his proverbial and literal ass off to cover this game and has made a very convoluted and tbh weird combat and skill system available to newer players. Don't want to study for a degree in eso theorycrafting? Just watch Deltia.
Same goes for Sypher. His displays of PvP skills have spawned dreams and ambitions in many new players and you really can't measure the value of that.

Personally I could give two figs what you or anyone else appreciates. Deltia had a unhinged, food flying from his mouth rant on YouTube, and called anyone that disagreed with him in chat a "crapmuncher", (paraphrasing) and worse, not to mention the Bizzaro mock funeral held for his Templar ....I don't know if he was channeling Shia LaBeouf or what, but it was downright weird.

Burying the templar was a joke. It was funny and was intended to be so. If you can't see that and don't find it funny, that's on you, no one else. As for his quitting ESO video, that was no rant. It was, if anything, somewhat regretful,. The man's life changed forever when his son was born, and he's clearly trying to make better life choices even if hard for him. To condemn him for that is really ugly stuff.

@ZOS_GinaBruno, whatever happened to no naming and shaming in these forums?

1: Deltia is a public figure, so open to scrutiny, hence no naming and shaming especially when the rant is still available despite Deltia trying to delete it.

2: I'm not the only one who found the mock funeral weird.

3: What does having a kid even have to do with the conversation

4: As long as these "all praise Deltia" threads happen, you can expect not everyone agreeing with you.

1. @Deltia is not a public figure in the sense that you mean it, I believe. He does not use his real name, only a pseudonym (screen name). Someone above used his real name in a post and that should definitely be disallowed. For several years, I've been aware of Deltia and his ESO related work. I even subscribed to his YouTube and stream channels for awhile. But this is the first time I've ever seen his real name. @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_KaiSchober, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom...please look at this situation. Is this use of a person's real name on these forums appropriate?

2. You might not be the only one, but that just means there is more than one humorless person in this world.

3. It's not having a kid that is the point in this conversation. It is the fact that he is trying to make better life choices and should not be disrespected for that decision. This is a game, people. It is not the be-all and end-all of anything real except to the people who work for the companies involved in producing and promoting it. So when you get right down to it, what exactly had Deltia done to deserve the crap being thrown around here about him? He decided to no longer cover ESO in his channels and website? Puhleeeze...get back to me when ESO becomes more important in this world than just a video game.

4. I don't expect anyone to agree with me. On the other hand, I don't expect to agree with everyone, either. But it appears that you expect me and others to agree with you. Otherwise you wouldn't have included your snarky point #4.

Sheey

I make my own

Deltias builds are pretty good for ongoing zergers

Danikat

I make my own

Honestly all I know about this guy is that he sometimes makes videos about ESO on Youtube, and I only know that from the forum.

I guess I'm old fashioned (or just old?) but I could never see the appeal of watching someone else play a game, especially one you own. Sure it's sometimes fun to do a bit of 'backseat gaming' round a friends house, but watching a pre-recorded video, or even a live stream is not the same. I'd rather have fun myself than watch someone else having fun on my behalf.