Who else is playing the original TES3 Morrowind in preparations to ESO Morrowind?

  • Knootewoot
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    @IcyDeadPeople, if it's a huge issue, you can always disable Tribunal, at least until you've got a handle on the game. The Dark Brotherhood Assassin can be a handful at low levels. This is especially true if you're playing off the original disks, instead of one of the later repackaged releases.

    Or you can just start the quest until Apelles Matius tells you to speak to Asciene Rane in Ebonheart. Then the attacks also stop.

    Or if you like to travel a lot back to seyda neen, you can sleep in the Census and Excise Office (where you create character). There you will never be attacked.

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  • SydneyGrey
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    I should play Morrowind. I'd have to buy it again on Steam, though. I used to play it all the time back when it came out ... played it for two years straight, pretty much. <3

    I've loved all the Elder Scrolls games since then, too, though. I loved Oblivion and Skyrim just as much.
  • FoulSnowpaw
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    I got the whole TES collection. B)

    Morrowind is fun.
    You can steal an item right in front of the counter with the guy just staring at you awkwardly. He didn't see it apparently.
    Sleep in a bed for 48 hours about, and the guards forget you ever committed a crime.
    Rob Ghost Gate and scram. You now have overpowered gear for life.

    OH and cliff racers... you can have an army of them follow you and they never go away.
    And in TESO Morrowind it seems Ghost Gate no longer has an ecotoplasmic wall. Guess tech is still being developed.
  • Betsararie
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    I imagine this is popular with the lore buffs.

    Me I'm just playing my beloved characters for their final days before they turn to ***, then I will start a warden and likely stick with that for a little while.
  • Sprotch_16_ESO
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    I started to play it again about 2 months ago :)
    Completed the game 13 years ago on old Xbox, and I started it again 10 years ago on PC. And now again :)

    For me, the game has something that no other RPG's has (and I played a lot of RPG's, old and new).
    In TES3:Morrowind the NPC-vendors are static, they never sleep and the other NPC's have a very predictable pattern. And yet, despite this, the game has a very unique atmosphere.

    It must be the fact that you can talk about everything with every NPC you meet, not just a very limited set of choics....
    Or maybe it's because of the skills and abilities-structure that goes far beyond the newer Bethesda titles....
    Or it is the immense number of 'factions' in the game (Great Houses, races, families, religions, guilds, individual NPC's...) that all have a love-hate relationship with each other. Which makes your choices in one of these factions really matter, because it will change your relation to some other faction.

    All of these things make TES3 feels more 'alive' than any other RPG I ever played.
  • Huyen
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    ArchMikem wrote: »

    Isnt it dirt cheap on Steam though? Youre not paying twice for the same thing, youre paying for a version thats optimized for newer machines, and its not nearly retail price anymore.

    Checked it out for you: TES3 on steam costs €15 euro's still. For someone with a low income like me, its still a huge amount of money. So yeah, I still dont want to repay for the same game I bought nearly 20 years ago.
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  • Elsonso
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    TES3 Morrowind was truly a masterpiece in its own way. The creatures, the atmosphere, the items, etc. This game had elements that was never seen again from the other titles afterwards.

    Yes. If you are looking for quests and stories with depth and complexity, TES 3 Morrowind was the last of the series to boast this. Starting with Oblivion, questing becomes more like what we expect from modern games, and less like the RPG games that inspired the computer versions.

    ESO might be good for where we are today in games, but the genre, as a whole, has lost a lot in the last 20 years.

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  • Avalon
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    Surprised no one has brought up the SkyWind project... aren't/weren't they working on a mod/addition to Skyrim that was the entire Morrowind game?
  • Loves_guars
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    OH and cliff racers... you can have an army of them follow you and they never go away.

    I tried to do this... but I fail everytime. Maybe is because my char is slow (50ish speed iirc), but the cliff racers always catch on me and start hitting and stopping me so I roll my eyes while I think *ah yes Morrowind* and end up killing them. :D
  • Heroeric1337
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    Avalon wrote: »
    Surprised no one has brought up the SkyWind project... aren't/weren't they working on a mod/addition to Skyrim that was the entire Morrowind game?

    It's still in production, they have NPC's placed last time I checked they need to add the scripting and voices, which will continue to take some time. Only thing that was successfully implimented like that in the entire TES series is the project to add the mainland to Morrowind in TES3.
  • Nyladreas
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    Anyone got any tips for a player who's desperately trying to enjoy TES3 ? Read my other comment on page 1.... I really want to experience this :/
  • Heroeric1337
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    DoShazarr wrote: »
    Anyone got any tips for a player who's desperately trying to enjoy TES3 ? Read my other comment on page 1.... I really want to experience this :/

    It depends on what is a game breaker for you. You listed alot of things you didn't like about it, id say the biggest thing you can't really change is the lack of vocal dialogue in the game. Elements like combat and how fatigue works and all that stuff can be adjusted, as there are plenty of mods out there. Even graphical enhancements as seen in some of the posted screenshots.

  • Loves_guars
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    Early Access = less time nooooouu :D
    DoShazarr wrote: »
    Anyone got any tips for a player who's desperately trying to enjoy TES3 ? Read my other comment on page 1.... I really want to experience this :/[
    Reason why I quit every signle time? Couldn't get over the combat, chat started to give me serious headaches 5 minutes in, and when I finally reached Balmora i just stopped because the game literally was making me angry as every NPC has the same generic crap to say and i didn't know where to go as I also didn't want to do the main quest line until I explored everything. And to think I only wanted to find more quests and lore, more things to learn and explore. Nope.... Didn't work, cuz i had to click on every single topic over and over and over and read everything over and over and over to make sure i'm not missing something.

    1) Reaaally try to be patient. Understand that this is an old school game, everything takes more time, more reading. Try to think every travel from one town to another as a new adventure. You can use the transportation systems to travel between towns.

    2) I'd recommend this Morrowind Overhaul Mod which enhances graphics and other stuff, the installation is easy to follow.

    3) If in a hurry or overwhelmed, go for the main quest story, which is long itself and will take you all over the map. Known as the best TES story!

    4) Don't worry about alchemy and enchants, at least not at the start, you can always buy them or heal through Restoration.

    5) You don't have to press all the topics on every NPC. Just the ones that obviously will take you further into the main quest.

    6) About the combat.. yes.. it's not great. Some fights take a bit preparation, protection spells etc which makes it a little more interesting but nothing more. If this is too important for you, then you are in the wrong game probably. I play this for the story and atmosphere I guess.






    Edited by Loves_guars on May 10, 2017 9:28PM
  • Bananko
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  • Evergnar
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    Definitely not playing the original right now. It is/was just too good and it would be unfair to compare the two side by side.
  • CountEdmondDantes
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    @IcyDeadPeople, if it's a huge issue, you can always disable Tribunal, at least until you've got a handle on the game. The Dark Brotherhood Assassin can be a handful at low levels. This is especially true if you're playing off the original disks, instead of one of the later repackaged releases.

    I probably have 1000+ hours in the TES III, so many that I no longer think too much of those original assassins. There are a couple of ways these can be handled if you don't want get killed right off the bat. For @IcyDeadPeople, here are some tips:

    1. For you first play through, or even the first few hours, make sure you select "Use Best Attack" in the game settings. This forces your character to use the weapon attack that does the most damage. After you figure out the combat mechanics, you can switch it off but the first few attacks are going to be murder if you don't know how the combat works.
    2. At low levels, do NOT sleep outside. It's an invitation to have someone kill you, most notably, one of the assassins.
    3. My advice: Get off the boat at Seyda Neen and head to Balmora. If you're feeling particularly adventurous, you can walk or half-jog there (no matter what character you create, it's not running at level 1). Feel free to pick a variety of mushrooms and flowers along the way. ;) When you arrive in Balmora, join the Fighters and Mages guilds. Now you have a place to sleep. Sleep there and if the assassin spawns, they will do so at the door of the building. You will awaken in the middle of your sleep with that message (I can't remember exactly what it says ... something about unease?) and you know then that an assassin is in the building. Now you have some time to plan an attack or get away.
    4. If I recall, the assassins are leveled, but still pretty difficult.
    5. Finally, here's my favorite start: Same as above, except go to Nerano manor when you get to Balmora. One of the very cool things about Morrowind is the ability to taunt people into attacking you. Find the Manor and taunt Ondres Nerano into attacking you. It make take a bit - like maybe 100+ taunts - but he will eventually attack you. Keep at it until he does. He will attack you with his fists, but if you're new to the game, he can still knock you out, so be careful. Once he's dead, the house is basically yours. Now, when the assassins spawn at the front door, you can fight them, or escape out the side door. As long as that assassin is alive, another one won't spawn. He''ll stay in the house for a bit, so go get some good armor, maybe a better weapon, and then go fight him.

    Remember: most dungeons don't scale in Morrowind, so at the low levels, there's a lot out there that can kill you. I don't want to turn this into a guide but there's some tips for your first play through.

    God, I loved that game. :)
    Edited by CountEdmondDantes on May 12, 2017 2:08AM
  • starkerealm
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    @CountEdmondDantes, though, let's be honest. The Dark Brotherhood attacking you when you're FotB makes almost zero sense. We both know why they're coming after the player, but until you've started the main quest, the justification for the contract on your head is pretty tenuous. Also, the armor each member wears is the second best light armor in the game, (and there's a huge power jump between the third best, and glass), so... yeah, I wouldn't feel bad about telling newbies to play without Tribunal installed, until they've gotten a bit into the game.
  • CountEdmondDantes
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    @CountEdmondDantes, though, let's be honest. The Dark Brotherhood attacking you when you're FotB makes almost zero sense. We both know why they're coming after the player, but until you've started the main quest, the justification for the contract on your head is pretty tenuous. Also, the armor each member wears is the second best light armor in the game, (and there's a huge power jump between the third best, and glass), so... yeah, I wouldn't feel bad about telling newbies to play without Tribunal installed, until they've gotten a bit into the game.

    Agreed. Playing without Tribunal (or for that matter Bloodmoon) installed will have no negative effects on a player's game, and will definitely end the assassin attacks.

    And, as you said, the justification for the contracts is weak. I'm not suggesting (I don't think I did) that this adds any great depth to the game. I'm simply suggesting that - if a player chooses - they can proceed with Tribunal installed and still have a fair chance to survive, even at level 1 or 3. And - as you clearly know - once you kill one of the assassins, you then have access to a very nice set of armor. And if you don't mind playing with mods installed, there's a very cool dark brotherhood armor replacer that was one of my favorite armors.

    So yes, certainly don't install it and you just won't have the attacks. But if it can't be uninstalled or if you choose to play with Tribunal installed, you can with a little carefully planning, avoid dying.

    That's all I'm saying. :)
  • starkerealm
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    Agreed. Playing without Tribunal (or for that matter Bloodmoon) installed will have no negative effects on a player's game, and will definitely end the assassin attacks.

    And, as you said, the justification for the contracts is weak. I'm not suggesting (I don't think I did) that this adds any great depth to the game. I'm simply suggesting that - if a player chooses - they can proceed with Tribunal installed and still have a fair chance to survive, even at level 1 or 3. And - as you clearly know - once you kill one of the assassins, you then have access to a very nice set of armor. And if you don't mind playing with mods installed, there's a very cool dark brotherhood armor replacer that was one of my favorite armors.

    So yes, certainly don't install it and you just won't have the attacks. But if it can't be uninstalled or if you choose to play with Tribunal installed, you can with a little carefully planning, avoid dying.

    That's all I'm saying. :)

    Yeah. Ironically, one of my go to strategies, back in the day, was to find a spot just outside Seyda Neen, and sleep for one hour repeatedly until the assassin spawned, then kill them for their gear. Usually, I'd run up to grab that ebony short sword, before doing that, but not always. It turned the power curve inside out for armor, but still.
  • Balamoor
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    As much as I love Morrowind no sadly...there is far too much to do in ESO.
  • svartorn
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    I reinstalled it and got a bunch of mods for it but the graphics and blocky combat system were too much for me.

    It's like rewatching season 1 of Power Rangers... some things are better left in memories and not relived.
  • Rickter
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    I just want to live vicariously through you guys - keep posting pics!!
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  • SydneyGrey
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    I'm actually doing the Orsinium questline for the 2nd time with my current main, since there are a couple of battles in that where having magicka sustain is VERY useful. I want to do it before the Nerfapocalypse destroys her sustain.
    Balamoor wrote: »
    As much as I love Morrowind no sadly...there is far too much to do in ESO.
    That's how I feel. I'd love to play the original Morrowind again, but I'm afraid there's ESO that needs playing instead. B)
  • Elsonso
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    I'm actually doing the Orsinium questline for the 2nd time with my current main, since there are a couple of battles in that where having magicka sustain is VERY useful. I want to do it before the Nerfapocalypse destroys her sustain.

    Would be interesting to see how well you did with that character on PTS.

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  • Browiseth
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    not me, i prefer to play good games
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    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
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  • Loves_guars
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    Rickter wrote: »
    I just want to live vicariously through you guys - keep posting pics!!

    From Vivec looking at Ebonheart:
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    K, I'll go play now :D



  • fgoron2000
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    Morrowind was by far my least favorite of the latter stand-alone games, and yet I played it at least 3 or 4 times. That shows how good the ES games are. I started several times and I finished Arena once, and I gave up on Daggerfall at least 6 times because of that crazy 3D map. I played Oblivion first, of all the ES games, so that's my sentimental favorite, and I played Morrowind afterward, so despite the gameplay, it felt like even more of a bigger graphics step backward, than the 4 years that it actually was. Then I played Skyrim and was amazed by it, especially when I went all goofy with all the mods I added in, visual, audio, and content.

    I won't be playing MW right now, but that's only because I have more than enough to monopolize my playing time right now. I do look forward to getting back to Seyda Neen, Balmora, and Gnisis though.
  • Vizier
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    Only discovered this game many years after release and played a bit but I kept getting murdered by assassins the first time I went to sleep. :'( I do plan to play again this month though.

    You just have to be ready to fight when you go to sleep. Expect it. In fact I remember those assassins being a great source of income. Their gear is worth quite a bit.
  • Browiseth
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    sadownik wrote: »
    @Cêltic421 i hope tis a joke really, because there will be no ESO Morrowind. There will be dlc in Vvanderfell but comparing it to old Morrowind... no.

    @sadownik oh, i see exactly what you're doing

    and i'm here to tell you your 2001 game is not as good as you like to think it is. it may have been cool in concept back then when open world games weren't as much a thing, but that's all it is; cool in concept, for the time

    that's not even taking into consideration the fact there are far better games in its genre today; TES3 is a garbage game that is only relevant because of nostalgia and rose tinted glasses

    so yes, i will compare ESO morrowind to TES3: and more than likely i'll enjoy the ESO expansion far, far more than the twenty hours i've spent learning just how awful its inspiration is
    Edited by Browiseth on May 13, 2017 6:37AM
    skingrad when zoscharacters:
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    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • Loves_guars
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    I just finished Morrowind and Tribunal. MY BODY IS READY. :)

    Can't wait to be abused by the Tribunal again! :'(
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