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dark stalker and night silence not stacking

Melos-TheMadChimera
so I noticed while going around on my vampire DK my usual sneak speed was much slower than it is on the live build, I deduced it was because my vamp passive and my armor set were no longer stacking

just checking to see if this is a bug or an intended change?
Edited by Melos-TheMadChimera on April 26, 2017 6:22AM
  • Midori_Oku
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    The sneak bonuses between vampire, night silence, and shadow dancer no longer stack.
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  • QuebraRegra
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    ^ yup they patched the fun right outta it :(
  • psxfloh
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    I always wondered why they ever stacked..something that looked like a bad implementation all along:
    "sneak penalty => movement speed minus x, so a buff that 'removes' the penalty must add x to the character's movement speed" - and if someone wears 2 sets + has the vampire passive, three times x is added..
    uuuuuhm, what!? :D
  • Kram8ion
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    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking
    Edited by Kram8ion on April 26, 2017 7:18AM
    Aussie lag is real!
  • psxfloh
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking

    only the explanation just doesn't fit.. how can a "buff" that removes a "debuff" stack, unless you have more than one "debuff" and every "buff" removes only one of the stacked "debuffs"..!? :p

    for the same reason you could say that buffs like major brutality should stack.. if you "gimp" yourself using a whole dreugh king slayer set, the 5pc bonus should stack onto your buff from momentum/rally !? hmm, no..
  • QuebraRegra
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking

    see, I like this point of view... There's a lot being sacrificed just to build a speed build, and I think it promotes diversity. Instead back to just stacking DPS, etc. meta of the week.

    I like playing with some off/utility builds... you'll never wreck anyone/anything, but they can be fun.
  • Kram8ion
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    psxfloh wrote: »
    Kram8ion wrote: »
    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking

    only the explanation just doesn't fit.. how can a "buff" that removes a "debuff" stack, unless you have more than one "debuff" and every "buff" removes only one of the stacked "debuffs"..!? :p

    for the same reason you could say that buffs like major brutality should stack.. if you "gimp" yourself using a whole dreugh king slayer set, the 5pc bonus should stack onto your buff from momentum/rally !? hmm, no..

    As I said it's not damage and not really comparable and funny to mention dks because the sets speed "buff" stacks
    Aussie lag is real!
  • psxfloh
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    psxfloh wrote: »
    Kram8ion wrote: »
    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking

    only the explanation just doesn't fit.. how can a "buff" that removes a "debuff" stack, unless you have more than one "debuff" and every "buff" removes only one of the stacked "debuffs"..!? :p

    for the same reason you could say that buffs like major brutality should stack.. if you "gimp" yourself using a whole dreugh king slayer set, the 5pc bonus should stack onto your buff from momentum/rally !? hmm, no..

    As I said it's not damage and not really comparable and funny to mention dks because the sets speed "buff" stacks

    huh? never used that set.. it stacks with other sources of major expedition? like rapids or vicious serpent?? :#
  • Kram8ion
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    psxfloh wrote: »
    Kram8ion wrote: »
    psxfloh wrote: »
    Kram8ion wrote: »
    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking

    only the explanation just doesn't fit.. how can a "buff" that removes a "debuff" stack, unless you have more than one "debuff" and every "buff" removes only one of the stacked "debuffs"..!? :p

    for the same reason you could say that buffs like major brutality should stack.. if you "gimp" yourself using a whole dreugh king slayer set, the 5pc bonus should stack onto your buff from momentum/rally !? hmm, no..

    As I said it's not damage and not really comparable and funny to mention dks because the sets speed "buff" stacks

    huh? never used that set.. it stacks with other sources of major expedition? like rapids or vicious serpent?? :#
    Yup just like stacking troll posts :)
    Aussie lag is real!
  • Melos-TheMadChimera
    well thats a pity :/ I built my main toon all around that combo too, was real fun dashing around delves as some shadowy predator of the night, oh well, guess this means I get to replace my night silence for something that does more damage
    Edited by Melos-TheMadChimera on April 26, 2017 9:44AM
  • psxfloh
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    psxfloh wrote: »
    Kram8ion wrote: »
    psxfloh wrote: »
    Kram8ion wrote: »
    It should imo stack because your gimping yourself into a vamp for dark stalker and also using a complete set too that's a lot just for speed buffs it's not op damage or healing
    Personally I've only ever had dark stalker for speed buff alone coz it's was too wasteful to stack with a whole set, I think it would cause problems with servers in populated areas which happens with speed pot stacking

    only the explanation just doesn't fit.. how can a "buff" that removes a "debuff" stack, unless you have more than one "debuff" and every "buff" removes only one of the stacked "debuffs"..!? :p

    for the same reason you could say that buffs like major brutality should stack.. if you "gimp" yourself using a whole dreugh king slayer set, the 5pc bonus should stack onto your buff from momentum/rally !? hmm, no..

    As I said it's not damage and not really comparable and funny to mention dks because the sets speed "buff" stacks

    huh? never used that set.. it stacks with other sources of major expedition? like rapids or vicious serpent?? :#
    Yup just like stacking troll posts :)

    huh? I trolled? Well, sorry!
    I hope that if we ever meet in public and I throw a short glance at you, you won't report me for "stalking" as fast as you accuse me of trolling! (just kidding and taking up your joke) :D:*
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