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No wonder it's called TROLL king

  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Troll King is ridiculous, because there is no counter to health regen. And let's face it, a smart build (not a smart player, just a copied smart build) using TK will end up over 3k regen when it procs. And self healing is guaranteed for most classes (surge, funnel, rally, ritual, the CP ability that heals you when you get crit), so let's not pretend that remembering to self heal is hard

    If we had a counter to health regen, then TK would be ok. As it stands now, it heavily carries tanky builds in BGs and no-CP, just like it did for me last night on my first spin as a Warden. I didn't even run Rally, just Warden heals and Vigor

    An option for nerfing it could be to halve the proc duration too.

    Doesn't -poisoned- reduce health regen by 50%?

    No, diseased lowers heals but nothing lowers health Regen afaik

    Pretty sure that new CP star reduces all recoveries. As a medium armor wearer Troll King puts me at between 2200 and 2400 health recovery depending on buffs. Its strong but you are still easily able to be killed as its only ticking every 2 seconds. I've procc'ed it on many a BG pug and they just fall over dead right after because they have no mitigation or self healing.
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  • Jawasa
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    I get 2,4K with but with gold food and a potion my orc stam sorc goes up over 3k. But atm troll king is no more op then blood spawn, selen, velidreth, pirate skeleton or scoria.
  • Biro123
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    I wonder if I can come up with a magsorc build with troll-king and permafrost (and maybe mutagen as the only casted heal) to counter shieldbreaker.... Just can't remember if permafrost is heavy or light..
    Edited by Biro123 on June 28, 2017 12:00PM
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  • Valencer
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    Permafrost is a heavy armour set. Wouldnt be that bad considering heavy armour buffs health regen. :p
    Edited by Valencer on June 28, 2017 12:06PM
  • Biro123
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    Valencer wrote: »
    Permafrost is a heavy armour set. Wouldnt be that bad considering heavy armour buffs health regen. :p

    Ah.. that hard part would be figuring out how to sustain and do damage then..... hmm...
    Edited by Biro123 on June 28, 2017 12:20PM
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    Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • Waffennacht
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    @Toc de Malsvi I forgot about that CP, thnx for the reminder :)
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  • rimmidimdim
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    Orc NB, gold food, seventh legion set, 4k Regen when troll is triggered. But I agree with an above post saying it's no more op as blood spawn, Selene, ect. It just works very well for an orc NB in heavy armor with seventh legion. Also seventh legion proc triggers troll king.

    I used the word triggered for troll king and proc for seventh legion. There is a difference. Troll king in not a programmed random occurrence. Cheers.
    Edited by rimmidimdim on June 28, 2017 9:18PM
  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    Troll King is ridiculous, because there is no counter to health regen. And let's face it, a smart build (not a smart player, just a copied smart build) using TK will end up over 3k regen when it procs. And self healing is guaranteed for most classes (surge, funnel, rally, ritual, the CP ability that heals you when you get crit), so let's not pretend that remembering to self heal is hard

    If we had a counter to health regen, then TK would be ok. As it stands now, it heavily carries tanky builds in BGs and no-CP, just like it did for me last night on my first spin as a Warden. I didn't even run Rally, just Warden heals and Vigor

    An option for nerfing it could be to halve the proc duration too.

    Doesn't -poisoned- reduce health regen by 50%?

    No, diseased lowers heals but nothing lowers health Regen afaik

    There is a CP star that lowers health recovery.
  • leepalmer95
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    Troll King is ridiculous, because there is no counter to health regen. And let's face it, a smart build (not a smart player, just a copied smart build) using TK will end up over 3k regen when it procs. And self healing is guaranteed for most classes (surge, funnel, rally, ritual, the CP ability that heals you when you get crit), so let's not pretend that remembering to self heal is hard

    If we had a counter to health regen, then TK would be ok. As it stands now, it heavily carries tanky builds in BGs and no-CP, just like it did for me last night on my first spin as a Warden. I didn't even run Rally, just Warden heals and Vigor

    An option for nerfing it could be to halve the proc duration too.

    Doesn't -poisoned- reduce health regen by 50%?

    No, diseased lowers heals but nothing lowers health Regen afaik

    There is a CP star that lowers health recovery.

    You the siphoning one? The one that scales quite low?

    No ones gonna invest so much that it becomes noticeable.
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  • vokage89
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    Nerf Troll king ... No counter..you guys I swear ... There is a Huge counter to troll king...
    Do you just say things with no Research and cry for nerfs on things you just dont seem to know anything about?
    ...DO some research on the Topic before making these kinds of Claims. Too quick to Blame the problems you are having on
    zenimax and Not yourself.
  • leepalmer95
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    vokage89 wrote: »
    Nerf Troll king ... No counter..you guys I swear ... There is a Huge counter to troll king...
    Do you just say things with no Research and cry for nerfs on things you just dont seem to know anything about?
    ...DO some research on the Topic before making these kinds of Claims. Too quick to Blame the problems you are having on
    zenimax and Not yourself.

    Whats the counter?
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Ultimate_Overlord
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    @leepalmer95 The counter is to stop attacking
  • leepalmer95
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    @leepalmer95 The counter is to stop attacking

    I remember zos said that was a counter to heavy armour once.

    Don't attack them for a few seconds so they can't get resources via constitution.

    That was a good laugh.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Horker
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    No, its only 1500 health regen, so u get like 700hp/s extra, nothing special. you prob have run to much into health recovery builds..
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