People suck at CoA 2...

Ohhgrizyyy

Have had 4 groups today for it, Only one has been able to complete it where we burned through every boss with only 1 wipe the entire dungeon. After that I get dps who spam snipe and can't even do enough dps to get past the 2nd boss....Like come one people. I need a Skoria helm and needed to get my dailies done for hopefully a skoria shoulder and all that was shot down the drain today..

lauykanson

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Ohhgrizyyy

lauykanson wrote: »

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Pisses me off, I need Impen Heavy Skoria Helm and I need medium Impen shoulders...Cant even get the pledge let alone the dungeon done...Like why go into a dungeon to spam snipe for dps...My sorc is a PvP build but at least I throw on a couple aoes and can still do decent dmg

Stannum

Tanking vSoA hm with vampire NB in PvP gear - done )

jo_hanes

Oh vSoA the bane of my existence, Often i have found that folks get frustrated when running with pugs lack of communication is a major factor in any failure involved in veteran content well that and folks just not knowing the mechanics of the content in question.

Ohhgrizyyy

Need so many BiS shoulders I'll never get....Need medium Impen Skoria, Medium Divines ilambris, medium divines grothdar and medium divines Infernal....Literally can't even hardly get any of the actual shoulders to drop let alone the trait

failkiwib16_ESO

Don't pug CoA2 vet, go with people you know or join a pve guild.

Ohhgrizyyy

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Don't pug CoA2 vet, go with people you know or join a pve guild.

Can't go with people I know when most of them are offline cause it's midnight

Lord_Eomer

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

Have had 4 groups today for it, Only one has been able to complete it where we burned through every boss with only 1 wipe the entire dungeon. After that I get dps who spam snipe and can't even do enough dps to get past the 2nd boss....Like come one people. I need a Skoria helm and needed to get my dailies done for hopefully a skoria shoulder and all that was shot down the drain today..

With so much nerf wiyh Morrowind, this dungeon would be almost impossible to do! unless have very good group..

anitajoneb17_ESO

How about not PUGging when you want something done the quick and easy way ?

Ohhgrizyyy

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

How about not PUGging when you want something done the quick and easy way ?

Well I would hope people wouldn't be that mindless tbh....Theres no reason for it. If they are low lvl or maybe 200cp less maybe and only MAYBE can I understand it. But when you're 250+ you should at least know how to use more abilities then just snipe

failkiwib16_ESO

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Don't pug CoA2 vet, go with people you know or join a pve guild.

Can't go with people I know when most of them are offline cause it's midnight

There are pve guilds and raid guilds where most members are online late nights, and trading guilds have people active 24/7 ...the more social trading guilds are good for dungeon finding

Ohhgrizyyy

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Don't pug CoA2 vet, go with people you know or join a pve guild.

Can't go with people I know when most of them are offline cause it's midnight

There are pve guilds and raid guilds where most members are online late nights, and trading guilds have people active 24/7 ...the more social trading guilds are good for dungeon finding

Great point with the Trading guilds but they also usually require donations for traders and my cheap/broke ass ain't trying to pay that lol.

Kelces

Yes, definitely a challenge, to say the least...

It can be fun though for thesting your healing done, especially after the last platform is destroyed in the final fight. Sometimes it even works as long as people stay stacked.

SickDuck

lauykanson wrote: »

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Only the last boss is a dps race. Decent groups burn down others too and ignore mechanics but none of those actually need a good dps to complete.

Skoria on the other hand is probably the biggest dps check in the veteran dungeons. Not that most weak pugs get far though...

Stannum

SickDuck wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Only the last boss is a dps race. Decent groups burn down others too and ignore mechanics but none of those actually need a good dps to complete.

Skoria on the other hand is probably the biggest dps check in the veteran dungeons. Not that most weak pugs get far though...

On yesterday grouping tool run.
Tanked Daedroth under the column while rest group was there, so swarms of adds were not a problem (so it was not dps run)
Pulled both athros moving circles around while rest were focusing Titan (so it was not dps run too)

Yep was finishing Scoria with impale spam standing in lava allready ))

BTW, what forth boss is counted as DPS race?

anitajoneb17_ESO

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

How about not PUGging when you want something done the quick and easy way ?

Well I would hope people wouldn't be that mindless tbh....Theres no reason for it. If they are low lvl or maybe 200cp less maybe and only MAYBE can I understand it. But when you're 250+ you should at least know how to use more abilities then just snipe

... but those are your hopes, your judgements and your expectations.
There are hundreds of reasons why people don't perform the way you expect them to, the main reason being that most people don't want to follow a meta, to spoil themselves by studying videos like it was homework, or to comply with your expectations.

If you want stuff done quick&easy with good players, YOU should put in the efforts of joining adequate guilds and building up a list of friends accordingly. Don't blame PUGgers for your lack of efforts in that regard.

But you can always not do your part, blame others and whine on forums.

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Elvenpath

There is casual players, pvp'ers etc aswell. Uhm you don't have to play with them? You can't assume or accuse all the people at sux at coa2. I can finish every pledge or farm any dungeon approx 20-25 min~ with my friends or even pug.

But probably your additude like this mostly in-game, so no one wants to be your friend right?

git gud.

Ohhgrizyyy

Elvenpath wrote: »

There is casual players, pvp'ers etc aswell. Uhm you don't have to play with them? You can't assume or accuse all the people at sux at coa2. I can finish every pledge or farm any dungeon approx 20-25 min~ with my friends or even pug.

But probably your additude like this mostly in-game, so no one wants to be your friend right?

git gud.

No actually with the last group I was in before I said *** it and to quit trying I was as friendly as can be and then after several attempts on ash titan and a guy having to go feed to get rid of his vampirism we moved onto the boss that summons storm atronachs and couldn't kill him so I just left the group. I'm not trying to spend nearly 2 hours hours just to kill the ash titan and still not even be done with the dungeon. Most the time I'm usually in a chat party with a friend or just have my mix unplugged

alexkdd99

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

How about not PUGging when you want something done the quick and easy way ?

Well I would hope people wouldn't be that mindless tbh....Theres no reason for it. If they are low lvl or maybe 200cp less maybe and only MAYBE can I understand it. But when you're 250+ you should at least know how to use more abilities then just snipe

... but those are your hopes, your judgements and your expectations.
There are hundreds of reasons why people don't perform the way you expect them to, the main reason being that most people don't want to follow a meta, to spoil themselves by studying videos like it was homework, or to comply with your expectations.

If you want stuff done quick&easy with good players, YOU should put in the efforts of joining adequate guilds and building up a list of friends accordingly. Don't blame PUGgers for your lack of efforts in that regard.

But you can always not do your part, blame others and whine on forums.

Except people shouldn't queue for things they don't have the skill or gear to complete and expect others to carry them. If you pick a role and queue for veteran dungeons then you should be able to fulfill that role and carry your own weight. After all you did select that role and queue for that dungeon.

When you queue for dungeons you are saying, hey I have the ability to do this. If you don't have the ability you are bringing others down.

Bottom line is people shouldn't queue for things they don't have the skill to complete and drag others down.

I miss the days in games when others didn't want to be the dead weight in a group. Now people just don't care if they are the dead weight and just expect others to carry their weight. If you have a friend that agrees to carry you that's one thing, but these days people expect random people to carry them.

Saying they don't want to play the meta is a poor excuse. I don't look up builds and I don't have trouble clearing any dungeons. In this instance that is just an excuse to not put in effort to learn the game.

lauykanson

Stannum wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Only the last boss is a dps race. Decent groups burn down others too and ignore mechanics but none of those actually need a good dps to complete.

Skoria on the other hand is probably the biggest dps check in the veteran dungeons. Not that most weak pugs get far though...

On yesterday grouping tool run.
Tanked Daedroth under the column while rest group was there, so swarms of adds were not a problem (so it was not dps run)
Pulled both athros moving circles around while rest were focusing Titan (so it was not dps run too)

Yep was finishing Scoria with impale spam standing in lava allready ))

BTW, what forth boss is counted as DPS race?

the daedra women, fire maw, mini bosses at the 2 electric towers are ''DPS races'' , coz they will keep spawning adds until they die, but not a strict race as the adds can be stack and burned if tank is good, just not easy for pug groups.

Final boss is defo a dps check but 5 platforms should be easy as most of the time 2 DD + healer will be attacking. HM i'm not too sure maybe DD need to pull 30-35k DPS to make it work

lauykanson

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

Elvenpath wrote: »

There is casual players, pvp'ers etc aswell. Uhm you don't have to play with them? You can't assume or accuse all the people at sux at coa2. I can finish every pledge or farm any dungeon approx 20-25 min~ with my friends or even pug.

But probably your additude like this mostly in-game, so no one wants to be your friend right?

git gud.

No actually with the last group I was in before I said *** it and to quit trying I was as friendly as can be and then after several attempts on ash titan and a guy having to go feed to get rid of his vampirism we moved onto the boss that summons storm atronachs and couldn't kill him so I just left the group. I'm not trying to spend nearly 2 hours hours just to kill the ash titan and still not even be done with the dungeon. Most the time I'm usually in a chat party with a friend or just have my mix unplugged

When doing the harder dungeons and see low CP players its better to ask them if they done it before, then decide whether you should stay or leave. And most important thing is when you pug you need to identify people that you can help( dosent know mechanics but build is ok) or people that you cannot help(poor build and low dps), if its the latter one just quit and take the 15 minutes penalty rather than struggling for the next 2 hours

idk

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Pisses me off, I need Impen Heavy Skoria Helm and I need medium Impen shoulders...Cant even get the pledge let alone the dungeon done...Like why go into a dungeon to spam snipe for dps...My sorc is a PvP build but at least I throw on a couple aoes and can still do decent dmg

Form a group of worthy guild mates and friends.

kylewwefan

Stannum wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

COA2 is not a good place to pug as 4 out of 6 boss fights are DPS race

Only the last boss is a dps race. Decent groups burn down others too and ignore mechanics but none of those actually need a good dps to complete.

Skoria on the other hand is probably the biggest dps check in the veteran dungeons. Not that most weak pugs get far though...

On yesterday grouping tool run.
Tanked Daedroth under the column while rest group was there, so swarms of adds were not a problem (so it was not dps run)
Pulled both athros moving circles around while rest were focusing Titan (so it was not dps run too)

Yep was finishing Scoria with impale spam standing in lava allready ))

BTW, what forth boss is counted as DPS race?

The first boss. The witch that spawns 4 of herself and heals up if you don't kill them all. It's usually the first make or brake pug fight. Then the right side at the 3 way split before Skoria. If DPS is bad you'll get a ton of atronach. Makes it very difficult for tank. If your group is struggling with any of these mechanics, Skoria is way harder to burn in time.