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You're going to have to do something about Sorcs in Morrowind when concerning the new changes.
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You gutted healing on both the DK and Templar, which is what they rely on completely....(not to mention sustain)
While doing absolutely zero to Sorcs on either Shields or Sustain, and Stamina Sorcs have nothing done to them on Dark Exchange
You also didn't take into account how BONED DK/Templar are going to be on the No CP servers...
While doing absolutely zero to Sorcs on either Shields or Sustain, and Stamina Sorcs have nothing done to them on Dark Exchange
You also didn't take into account how BONED DK/Templar are going to be on the No CP servers...
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Stamden✭✭✭✭✭
✭Agreed. They were already the best class in the game by a pretty large margin. Every single patch they just get better and better. I get that the dev's clearly have a favorite class, but come on, this is getting ridiculous.PC NA
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olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agreed.
They nerfed major mending for dks and templars, made vigor cost 30% more, tuned blessed cp down considerably, but did nothing to lessen the dmg shield(stacking) meta.
Honestly its like watching an unfair fight happen, only to see the guy with the upperhand recieve a baseballbat from someone to boosts his chances of a win.
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agreed. They were already the best class in the game by a pretty large margin. Every single patch they just get better and better. I get that the dev's clearly have a favorite class, but come on, this is getting ridiculous.
It's their favorite because they don't play the game,sorc is easy mode.7 -
D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭Nerf all sustain and survivability for all classes but 2 (Sorc and Warden) in an attempt to force players to buy the new class.3
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✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?13 -
Vosital✭✭✭✭Agreed.
Honestly its like watching an unfair fight happen, only to see the guy with the upperhand recieve a baseballbat from someone to boosts his chances of a win.
This analogy is so true. It makes my f**king blood boil with Sorcs get treated in this game. I usually don't give much of a damn about balance in video games, but I legitimately get angry with this BS.14 -
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✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.Edited by Shad0wfire99 on April 18, 2017 2:12AM
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✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
Seriously tho, do anyone ever use spell symmetry in pvp, I think I saw someone do it once and he was dead before he hit the ground.
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✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
No it's a balance thing,lol spell symmetry! Not even close,that's a sacrifice to health not stamp or magicka. Try again,try harder.5 -
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✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
Go use spell symmetry on your sorc, then come back and delete this comment to not embarrass yourself further.27 -
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✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
No it's a balance thing,lol spell symmetry! Not even close,that's a sacrifice to health not stamp or magicka. Try again,try harder.
I don't need to try harder. You're crying about Sorc sustain when nobody seriously uses Dark Deal/Conversion outside of PvP. It's absolutely a PvP QQ thing. Which is why all these nerfs happened to start with. You don't wanna use what's available to you, that's your problem.
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✭Everyone got hit with sustain nerfs. Get over it.
Edited by Shad0wfire99 on April 18, 2017 2:19AM
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✭clocksstoppe wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
Go use spell symmetry on your sorc, then come back and delete this comment to not embarrass yourself further.
I'm not the one embarrassing myself. Everyone thinks they're the only ones affected by the sustain nerfs.
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
No it's a balance thing,lol spell symmetry! Not even close,that's a sacrifice to health not stamp or magicka. Try again,try harder.
I don't need to try harder. You're crying about Sorc sustain when nobody seriously uses Dark Deal/Conversion outside of PvP. It's absolutely a PvP QQ thing. Which is why all these nerfs happened to start with. You don't wanna use what's available to you, that's your problem.
Uhm,ppl use it in alot of situations. Your claim symmetry is viable just shows how little you know of the game. Im complaining that sorcs are untouched with balance,tis ok, if your using symmetry on your sorc and surviving your just strengthening the case against them.(easy mode for the casual)Edited by Mojmir on April 18, 2017 2:23AM7 -
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✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
Spell symmetry with 55% befoul LUL. Zos do seem to be blind to the collection of tools sorcs have access to these days. It's embarrassing. It seems the vision for the class is cheese. Next patch those sorcs using harness will bypass much of the regen penalty because that skill seems like one of the only regen tools that escaped a nerf. My only guess is that zos devs recently discovered that playing sorc could be fun but haven't yet worked out how to play it.PC | EU4 -
Firerock2✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Everyone got hit with sustain nerfs. Get over it.
Sorc's didn't6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Everyone got hit with sustain nerfs. Get over it.
Point out the the specific Sorc Sustain nerfs in the patch.
Go on, i'll waithttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Everyone got hit with sustain nerfs. Get over it.
Sorc's didn't
You're right. Sorcs didn't have access to the Magician or LA passives before Morrowind. Anyways, you guys enjoy your whine session. I'll leave you to it.Edited by Shad0wfire99 on April 18, 2017 2:29AM
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✭Lol at people still talking about shield stacking. They have a 6 second duration! By the time you use the second shield you only have a couple seconds to do anything. Especially with the resource cost nerf, nobody is going to be stacking shields. Doubtful many are right now considering the short duration.
If they are stacking shields then they aren't doing very much attacking.
But if it would make all crying about shields stop I wish they would just make them not stackable and restore their old duration.
I think there have been enough nerfs, instead of trying to get more how about try to get them to buff.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Magsorc dont rely much on heals, they rely on stacking shields. Healing was nerfed hard both in cp and generally for the game, damage shield(stacking) did not recieve an inch of a nerf wich indirectly buffs magsorc, and we all know how much they needed a buff......
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✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Everyone got hit with sustain nerfs. Get over it.
Sorc's didn't
You're right. Sorcs didn't have access to the Magician or LA passives before Morrowind. Anyways, you guys enjoy your whine session. I'll leave you to it.
Again, point out the specific Sorc Sustain Nerfs
Because not only did DK's get that same nerf as Sorc, but they got multiple other nerfs to sustain stacked ontop of it.
you can't..just accept you're wronghttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
ROFL at this and all your other posts.
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✭✭✭✭✭Lol at people still talking about shield stacking. They have a 6 second duration! By the time you use the second shield you only have a couple seconds to do anything. Especially with the resource cost nerf, nobody is going to be stacking shields. Doubtful many are right now considering the short duration.
If they are stacking shields then they aren't doing very much attacking.
But if it would make all crying about shields stop I wish they would just make them not stackable and restore their old duration.
I think there have been enough nerfs, instead of trying to get more how about try to get them to buff.
Every single Sorc in PvP shield stacks...
To fact that you're trying to argue otherwise shows the depth of your knowledge on this subjecthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Everyone got hit with sustain nerfs. Get over it.
Sorc's didn't
You're right. Sorcs didn't have access to the Magician or LA passives before Morrowind. Anyways, you guys enjoy your whine session. I'll leave you to it.
I don't get what you're trying to argue about here. Every single class loses the cp sustain, and on top of that, NB, templar, and DK get a massive hit to their resource sustain, while sorc gets away for no reason. Ironically, sorc is the class that currently has the least sustain issues. How is this balanced again?10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
Spell symmetry with 55% befoul LUL. Zos do seem to be blind to the collection of tools sorcs have access to these days. It's embarrassing. It seems the vision for the class is cheese. Next patch those sorcs using harness will bypass much of the regen penalty because that skill seems like one of the only regen tools that escaped a nerf. My only guess is that zos devs recently discovered that playing sorc could be fun but haven't yet worked out how to play it.
theyve known for awhile, remember the hard casting dev frags in the IC update? these guys want sorcs because its easymode for new players/VMA/and regular solo play, hell i play one. there is no reason they should not have been impacted this update with nerfs or balance changes.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agreed. They were already the best class in the game by a pretty large margin. Every single patch they just get better and better. I get that the dev's clearly have a favorite class, but come on, this is getting ridiculous.
It's their favorite because they don't play the game,sorc is easy mode.
it looks as if i am not alone in my beliefs.
i have always believed that zenimax employees simply do not play eso like we do on a daily basis.
we may see them play in a video or for a short time to test something or even enjoy an evening in eso from time to time.
but they simply do not play on a daily basis and play like we do using every hour we can to play eso daily.
and that is the only time they would see the way eso really plays, especially in PvP.2 -
Passifest✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »You know the regen and cost reduction nerfs hit every class, right?
And? Sorc has never had a sustain issue likes of which dk and templar have.wheres our dark deal/pact?
Oh, this is a PVP QQ thing. Sorry. My mistake. And it's called "Spell Symmetry," for the record.
Go use spell symmetry on your sorc, then come back and delete this comment to not embarrass yourself further.
I'm not the one embarrassing myself. Everyone thinks they're the only ones affected by the sustain nerfs.
People like you make me sad4
