@Valencer hmmm now I realized how I kept winning against this one dude running fasalla's a while ago on my stam dk running 5 dots... by what @Lexxypwns said I should've been debugged constantly which I wasn't. Ah well, that means the set is quite easily countered as you can just like vigor > igneous > rally and by the time you rally the debuff is gone. Now I guess that's why ppl don't run it on here haha