Flying black lion mount

ereboz

Check the site,is this how flying mounts begin? Just saying.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/04/04/crown-store-showcase-april-2017

Tryxus

No, it's ZOS teasing all the ppl who want them

Katahdin

God, I knew someone would bring up flying mounts when I read that......

JKorr

You did notice that was referring to Rahjin's mount, right? And it talked, too?

Huyen

If you read correctly, the part of flying was only for a mythical Khajiit...

ereboz

Huyen wrote: »

If you read correctly, the part of flying was only for a mythical Khajiit...

Yes I read that. I personally don't even care if there are ever flying mounts. I just thought it was cool that the possibility exists in the world. Take it as you will.

Wing

Khajiit invent amazing drugs. . .

. . .and claim they have flying, talking mounts. . .

Coincidence? you decide!

mikeabboudb14_ESO

yes to flying mounts i want my dragon

Molydeus

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

yes to flying mounts i want my dragon

I want to ride a titan.

Vanthras79

Gasp. ZOS is mocking us. This is why I have my arsenal of Argonian nick-names for the developers and staff. i.e. Know-Eeytea-Aiye.

Alchemical

Flying mount discussions are always boring. Dragons. Flying Horses. Dragons. Flying Lions. Dragons. Usually it's mostly dragons.

Without question the first flying mount should be a tornado of Cliff Racers that carry you into the air in a chorus of screaming and whiffing noises.



And that's how you kill the demand for flying mounts.

BigBragg

Why does everyone want to be like R. Kelly?

Milvan

All mmorpg have some kind of flying or gliding, why ESO's players are so reactive with flying/gliding?

KingYogi415

Wtf why is a black "senche" Lion, Just a darker black lion.

Laziest re-skin to date!

Sneaky-Snurr

Milvan wrote: »

All mmorpg have some kind of flying or gliding, why ESO's players are so reactive with flying/gliding?

@Milvan
Because for starters, it's not lore-friendly given the context in ESO.
In the Elder Scrolls series, there's little to no possibility that flying creatures can be tamed and become a mount. Only a very small amount of characters throughout the series are able to ride on flying creatures and even that happens once out of every 2 instalments of the series.

And it's not just ESO players btw, it's us Elder Scrolls fans who are reactive about the prospect of flying mounts. Though I know a few who would still like to see flying mounts made available.

Milvan

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

All mmorpg have some kind of flying or gliding, why ESO's players are so reactive with flying/gliding?

@Milvan
Because for starters, it's not lore-friendly given the context in ESO.
In the Elder Scrolls series, there's little to no possibility that flying creatures can be tamed and become a mount. Only a very small amount of characters throughout the series are able to ride on flying creatures and even that happens once out of every 2 instalments of the series.

And it's not just ESO players btw, it's us Elder Scrolls fans who are reactive about the prospect of flying mounts. Though I know a few who would still like to see flying mounts made available.

I think eso community should get over it. All mmorpg nowdays have some sort of flying/gliding mechanics. It's a great asset for the game and open up the gameplay for a lot of opportunities.

Also, ragequitting because of flying/gliding mounts is really lame.

Alchemical

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Because for starters, it's not lore-friendly given the context in ESO.

I mean... Levitate is literally a spell that exists. Flying is not exactly an 'anti elder scrolls' thing. In fact it has to be somewhat common place on Vvardenfell and eastern Morrowind where the Telvanni are in power since getting around their towers almost exclusively requires some kind of flight. In Bloodmoon there was even a character in Ald'ruhn that had an air ship he created with Levitate enchantments. So it's completely realistically viable to say, put a levitate enchantment on a bridle or saddle and levitate your horse. We're given no reason to think that would not work when heavier objects can be levitated and piloted. There might be a reason, it seems so obviously useful that you figure someone would have thought of it and tried it out and got results one way or the other, but if there is I haven't heard it.

Aside from just levitating normal mounts? ... hmmm... Super Buoyant Netch? Flying Carpets? Dwemer Steam Powered Jet Packs? Were-Eagles? Literally any of those are believable things they COULD do and wouldn't explicitly break lore even if we haven't seen them before. A tribe of winged Argonians are canon, even if we've never seen them. Sload airships are canon but we've never seen them. Dwemer had abundant flight technology we haven't seen much of, it's likely just that few modern people know how to restore Dwemer mechanisms that prevents them from being reproduced on any scale. The Imperials flew to the moon and found Khajiit were already there, likely through the power of getting really high (I'm serious). If you restrict ESO to only what's been explicitly seen in previous games you're cutting out most of TES lore. At that point, why even play ESO?

Dragon mounts though would indeed be massively lore breaking, obviously, which is what most people want as far as I can see. Which as someone with 300+ mounts in some other MMO, I find dragons pretty cliche and boring at this point. TES is such a fantastically weird world and so much of it isn't explored or explicitly stated, you could do some really unique stuff with it and be just as 'canon' as a normal horse. I mean, there's a tiny, chicken shaped guar. We have crazy powerful wizards like Divayth Fyr in the world who can extend their lives almost indefinitely with overwhelming magic powers and spend all that extras time doing weird experiments with the laws of reality for fun. You can't tell me not one mage ever looked at a chicken guar and though "I want to ride this." That is something that makes MORE SENSE than a dragon mount when held up to the holy grail of canon scrutiny and is equal parts amazing and hilarious. Whether they could actually fly with those little chicken nub wings is up for debate, but I refuse to rule out anything.

This got kind of long because I kept thinking of ideas and examples, but I think that just illustrates the point that TES is a series that inspires creativity with its odd, sometimes-nonsensical-but-still-sensible world. Don't try to marry it to a narrow logic, it just doesn't suit the setting where god is dragon who reduces the timeline to incomprehensible nonsense so often they specifically invented a term to describe it.


TL;DR
Flying's fine, it's all over Elder Scrolls lore. The most obvious reason it's not in the game is to preserve the exploration element of the games, because TES games get really boring when you mod flying mounts into them. There are probably also technical limitations maybe.

Sneaky-Snurr

Milvan wrote: »

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

All mmorpg have some kind of flying or gliding, why ESO's players are so reactive with flying/gliding?

@Milvan
Because for starters, it's not lore-friendly given the context in ESO.
In the Elder Scrolls series, there's little to no possibility that flying creatures can be tamed and become a mount. Only a very small amount of characters throughout the series are able to ride on flying creatures and even that happens once out of every 2 instalments of the series.

And it's not just ESO players btw, it's us Elder Scrolls fans who are reactive about the prospect of flying mounts. Though I know a few who would still like to see flying mounts made available.

I think eso community should get over it. All mmorpg nowdays have some sort of flying/gliding mechanics. It's a great asset for the game and open up the gameplay for a lot of opportunities.

Also, ragequitting because of flying/gliding mounts is really lame.

@Milvan
If anything, we need mounted battles not flying mounts.
Yes I can see why flying mounts could open up the gameplay but again, it's just not lore-friendly and that would consequently dumb the game down further and would make a mockery out of the Elder Scrolls series as a whole (as if the game wasn't dumbed down enough. Heh..).

As a person who loves the series, flying mounts are a definite "no go" to me.

Heroeric1337

Alchemical wrote: »

Flying mount discussions are always boring. Dragons. Flying Horses. Dragons. Flying Lions. Dragons. Usually it's mostly dragons.

Without question the first flying mount should be a tornado of Cliff Racers that carry you into the air in a chorus of screaming and whiffing noises.



And that's how you kill the demand for flying mounts.

Oh god, the nightmares and axieties are all coming back to me!!

ProfessorKittyhawk

If they do ever bring in flying mounts, have cliffracers be the flying equivalent of slaughterfish.

Toc de Malsvi

I really don't think the game would be playable with flying mounts. 5 fps here we come!

Shgon_Dunstan

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

If they do ever bring in flying mounts, have cliffracers be the flying equivalent of slaughterfish.

... "And thus did all Tamriel put aside their differences and join forces to fight winged demons... They failed.".

SunRaider

They urgent need to hire a fashion designer . They could make tons of cash with a new good looking costume every week , not these horrible, all the same looking, costumes...

What a lack of imagination ...

ralvdlindenpeb18_ESO

I wished he could talk so im not alone dont care for a flying mount a new friend is way better

Runschei

Turelus

You know, I managed to miss that as I skim read the description (don't care about senche mounts).

Sneaky-Snurr

Alchemical wrote: »

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Because for starters, it's not lore-friendly given the context in ESO.

I mean... Levitate is literally a spell that exists. Flying is not exactly an 'anti elder scrolls' thing. In fact it has to be somewhat common place on Vvardenfell and eastern Morrowind where the Telvanni are in power since getting around their towers almost exclusively requires some kind of flight. In Bloodmoon there was even a character in Ald'ruhn that had an air ship he created with Levitate enchantments. So it's completely realistically viable to say, put a levitate enchantment on a bridle or saddle and levitate your horse. We're given no reason to think that would not work when heavier objects can be levitated and piloted. There might be a reason, it seems so obviously useful that you figure someone would have thought of it and tried it out and got results one way or the other, but if there is I haven't heard it.

Aside from just levitating normal mounts? ... hmmm... Super Buoyant Netch? Flying Carpets? Dwemer Steam Powered Jet Packs? Were-Eagles? Literally any of those are believable things they COULD do and wouldn't explicitly break lore even if we haven't seen them before. A tribe of winged Argonians are canon, even if we've never seen them. Sload airships are canon but we've never seen them. Dwemer had abundant flight technology we haven't seen much of, it's likely just that few modern people know how to restore Dwemer mechanisms that prevents them from being reproduced on any scale. The Imperials flew to the moon and found Khajiit were already there, likely through the power of getting really high (I'm serious). If you restrict ESO to only what's been explicitly seen in previous games you're cutting out most of TES lore. At that point, why even play ESO?

Dragon mounts though would indeed be massively lore breaking, obviously, which is what most people want as far as I can see. Which as someone with 300+ mounts in some other MMO, I find dragons pretty cliche and boring at this point. TES is such a fantastically weird world and so much of it isn't explored or explicitly stated, you could do some really unique stuff with it and be just as 'canon' as a normal horse. I mean, there's a tiny, chicken shaped guar. We have crazy powerful wizards like Divayth Fyr in the world who can extend their lives almost indefinitely with overwhelming magic powers and spend all that extras time doing weird experiments with the laws of reality for fun. You can't tell me not one mage ever looked at a chicken guar and though "I want to ride this." That is something that makes MORE SENSE than a dragon mount when held up to the holy grail of canon scrutiny and is equal parts amazing and hilarious. Whether they could actually fly with those little chicken nub wings is up for debate, but I refuse to rule out anything.

This got kind of long because I kept thinking of ideas and examples, but I think that just illustrates the point that TES is a series that inspires creativity with its odd, sometimes-nonsensical-but-still-sensible world. Don't try to marry it to a narrow logic, it just doesn't suit the setting where god is dragon who reduces the timeline to incomprehensible nonsense so often they specifically invented a term to describe it.


TL;DR
Flying's fine, it's all over Elder Scrolls lore. The most obvious reason it's not in the game is to preserve the exploration element of the games, because TES games get really boring when you mod flying mounts into them. There are probably also technical limitations maybe.

@Alchemical
You obviously missed my point.
I've said it in my post that it has to be lore-friendly in the context of ESO. As in, can you please pinpoint where in the lore that says the Vestige utilising some form of flying mounts or things like that to achieve his/her objective in the story. I've not read/heard/seen any evidence that the Vestige used some Dwemer equipments or transformed into a Were-Eagle to 'fly' around Tamriel like what you've suggested.
Yes, this is a fantasy world where "god is dragon who reduces the timeline to incomprehensible nonsense" but it has to be in context and timeline of this world.
"And so the vestige launched off the ground with the use of the Dwemer machinery to defeat Molag Bal" or maybe launching off onto keep walls to capture enemy keeps. Doesn't fit the context of ESO does it?

Sure, we've never seen them even if it exists but how can anyone use or let alone get ahold of something when they've never seen it even if it exists.
Common sense, mate.

And if you must talk about hovering, do note that hovering and flying do get the users off the ground but they're both very different in the degree of the height of flight (duh!).
Netches don't 'fly' as I'm sure you're aware of, they hover. You're mixing up hovering and flying.

See, you MUST put yourself in the Vestige's boots and observe where, at any point, is it actually lore-friendly for flying mounts to be in this time period of the Elder Scrolls series.
To the best of my knowledge, the lore does not provide any evidence that the Vestige had/used any flying mounts. Not so sure on hovering mounts though so that's one grey area that we can look at.

That said, I am on the fence about hovering mounts but flying is again, a definite "no-go" to me.

andreasv

Milvan wrote: »

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

All mmorpg have some kind of flying or gliding, why ESO's players are so reactive with flying/gliding?

@Milvan
Because for starters, it's not lore-friendly given the context in ESO.
In the Elder Scrolls series, there's little to no possibility that flying creatures can be tamed and become a mount. Only a very small amount of characters throughout the series are able to ride on flying creatures and even that happens once out of every 2 instalments of the series.

And it's not just ESO players btw, it's us Elder Scrolls fans who are reactive about the prospect of flying mounts. Though I know a few who would still like to see flying mounts made available.

I think eso community should get over it. All mmorpg nowdays have some sort of flying/gliding mechanics. It's a great asset huge issue for the game developers and open up the gameplay for a lot of opportunities bugs.

Also, ragequitting because of flying/gliding mounts is really lame.

Most of us had some experience with the competence of ZOS developers at some point. So . . . yeah . . fixed that for you.

DMuehlhausen

Milvan wrote: »

All mmorpg have some kind of flying or gliding, why ESO's players are so reactive with flying/gliding?

Cause flying mounts absolutely destroy the game. Nobody ever leaves cities at that point. They all just stand around and fly over all the content to just get to that little quest marker.

Palindiil

Flying mounts are completely lore friendly. Dunmer have enormous wasps - seen here in several of the panels of this:

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/page-16-0

Can completely see these coming at some point, just not actually flying, more hovering above the ground.

RapidUrsa

Netch mount ftw