mag dk help

jakeedmundson

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jakeedmundson wrote: »

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Timing ults when you get low on magic then popping potions a little after ur ult. I start off with a heavy attack some dots then to a potion to be capped off with magic again. Then when my magic is getting to the 1/4 mark I drop ult and pop another potion back to full magic. I also like to go slow with medium weaves over light weaves this slows down the drain on magic and waiting to the very last sec to reapply my dots so I don't waist magic.

I'm not the best dps I just got to 30k dps but I'm also not running BiS gear. Missing moondancer, rn I have willpower and just gold staffs with sharpen and BSW 5 pc with grothdarr.

I'm not sure at work but when I use a potion my regen is something like 900-1000 it's really low and I very rarely run out of magic.

I am terrified what this next update is going to do to mdk in pve and pvp if they don't reduce the cost of our very expensive skills.

ZoS please lower the cost of our abilities if you take away reduce cost or mdks are going to be hurting yet again!

They already hurting. The mag class literally needs a full support group to do ANYTHING.

Its bad enough that i've started experimenting with mag dk heavy attack builds... if i can find something to break 30k with no regen issues.... i'm staying with it for good.
The classic whip builds drain everything too fast.

Ye. I did the whole potion on cooldown thing, Did my best with eledrain and gor 23.5k a few times. -which is discouraging af because magdk suposedly easy pulls 35-40k.

Now here's the effed up part: my stam templar can pull 30k without pierce on a 6m targ dummy. Is stam templar better sustain/dps than magdk or am I seriously f'ing something up?

ha thats funny... i'm honestly in the exact same boat. But replace stamplar 30kish dps with stam sorc and my mag sorc (heavy attack build).

For some reason on the mag dk i can only hit around that 25k mark... sometimes less, sometimes more but never over 30k. I'm always gasping for resources. I follow the meta rotations and builds and i just do not understand how those folks are getting 10k+ more dps than i am

Someone draw me a diagram please.

Ep1kMalware

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Timing ults when you get low on magic then popping potions a little after ur ult. I start off with a heavy attack some dots then to a potion to be capped off with magic again. Then when my magic is getting to the 1/4 mark I drop ult and pop another potion back to full magic. I also like to go slow with medium weaves over light weaves this slows down the drain on magic and waiting to the very last sec to reapply my dots so I don't waist magic.

I'm not the best dps I just got to 30k dps but I'm also not running BiS gear. Missing moondancer, rn I have willpower and just gold staffs with sharpen and BSW 5 pc with grothdarr.

I'm not sure at work but when I use a potion my regen is something like 900-1000 it's really low and I very rarely run out of magic.

I am terrified what this next update is going to do to mdk in pve and pvp if they don't reduce the cost of our very expensive skills.

ZoS please lower the cost of our abilities if you take away reduce cost or mdks are going to be hurting yet again!

They already hurting. The mag class literally needs a full support group to do ANYTHING.

Its bad enough that i've started experimenting with mag dk heavy attack builds... if i can find something to break 30k with no regen issues.... i'm staying with it for good.
The classic whip builds drain everything too fast.

Ye. I did the whole potion on cooldown thing, Did my best with eledrain and gor 23.5k a few times. -which is discouraging af because magdk suposedly easy pulls 35-40k.

Now here's the effed up part: my stam templar can pull 30k without pierce on a 6m targ dummy. Is stam templar better sustain/dps than magdk or am I seriously f'ing something up?

ha thats funny... i'm honestly in the exact same boat. But replace stamplar 30kish dps with stam sorc and my mag sorc (heavy attack build).

For some reason on the mag dk i can only hit around that 25k mark... sometimes less, sometimes more but never over 30k. I'm always gasping for resources. I follow the meta rotations and builds and i just do not understand how those folks are getting 10k+ more dps than i am

Someone draw me a diagram please.

Dude they literall have a diagram. Where to slot each and every skill, along with the exact order of buttons to press for free 35k dps. But I'm getting.. 23.5k dps.

Mag dk sucks ass in vma, worst resource management ever, worst skill cost in the history of tamriel and all the bliss of leveling ,ages guild, fighters guild, undaunted for a dps toon that supposedly performs. On top of the effort I put in for sharp vma inferno. I GOT NO RESULTS AMD ZOS GUNNA NERF CP. Damn you eso, damn you.

Khaos_Bane

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Timing ults when you get low on magic then popping potions a little after ur ult. I start off with a heavy attack some dots then to a potion to be capped off with magic again. Then when my magic is getting to the 1/4 mark I drop ult and pop another potion back to full magic. I also like to go slow with medium weaves over light weaves this slows down the drain on magic and waiting to the very last sec to reapply my dots so I don't waist magic.

I'm not the best dps I just got to 30k dps but I'm also not running BiS gear. Missing moondancer, rn I have willpower and just gold staffs with sharpen and BSW 5 pc with grothdarr.

I'm not sure at work but when I use a potion my regen is something like 900-1000 it's really low and I very rarely run out of magic.

I am terrified what this next update is going to do to mdk in pve and pvp if they don't reduce the cost of our very expensive skills.

ZoS please lower the cost of our abilities if you take away reduce cost or mdks are going to be hurting yet again!

They already hurting. The mag class literally needs a full support group to do ANYTHING.

Its bad enough that i've started experimenting with mag dk heavy attack builds... if i can find something to break 30k with no regen issues.... i'm staying with it for good.
The classic whip builds drain everything too fast.

Ye. I did the whole potion on cooldown thing, Did my best with eledrain and gor 23.5k a few times. -which is discouraging af because magdk suposedly easy pulls 35-40k.

Now here's the effed up part: my stam templar can pull 30k without pierce on a 6m targ dummy. Is stam templar better sustain/dps than magdk or am I seriously f'ing something up?

ha thats funny... i'm honestly in the exact same boat. But replace stamplar 30kish dps with stam sorc and my mag sorc (heavy attack build).

For some reason on the mag dk i can only hit around that 25k mark... sometimes less, sometimes more but never over 30k. I'm always gasping for resources. I follow the meta rotations and builds and i just do not understand how those folks are getting 10k+ more dps than i am

Someone draw me a diagram please.

Dude they literall have a diagram. Where to slot each and every skill, along with the exact order of buttons to press for free 35k dps. But I'm getting.. 23.5k dps.

Mag dk sucks ass in vma, worst resource management ever, worst skill cost in the history of tamriel and all the bliss of leveling ,ages guild, fighters guild, undaunted for a dps toon that supposedly performs. On top of the effort I put in for sharp vma inferno. I GOT NO RESULTS AMD ZOS GUNNA NERF CP. Damn you eso, damn you.

Yeah the CP change is really going to hit the mag DK like a truck. I highly doubt the developers will realize this and make some slight changes to the DK to help. The developers don't seem to get out in front of issues, they are always reaction mode.

Ep1kMalware

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Timing ults when you get low on magic then popping potions a little after ur ult. I start off with a heavy attack some dots then to a potion to be capped off with magic again. Then when my magic is getting to the 1/4 mark I drop ult and pop another potion back to full magic. I also like to go slow with medium weaves over light weaves this slows down the drain on magic and waiting to the very last sec to reapply my dots so I don't waist magic.

I'm not the best dps I just got to 30k dps but I'm also not running BiS gear. Missing moondancer, rn I have willpower and just gold staffs with sharpen and BSW 5 pc with grothdarr.

I'm not sure at work but when I use a potion my regen is something like 900-1000 it's really low and I very rarely run out of magic.

I am terrified what this next update is going to do to mdk in pve and pvp if they don't reduce the cost of our very expensive skills.

ZoS please lower the cost of our abilities if you take away reduce cost or mdks are going to be hurting yet again!

They already hurting. The mag class literally needs a full support group to do ANYTHING.

Its bad enough that i've started experimenting with mag dk heavy attack builds... if i can find something to break 30k with no regen issues.... i'm staying with it for good.
The classic whip builds drain everything too fast.

Ye. I did the whole potion on cooldown thing, Did my best with eledrain and gor 23.5k a few times. -which is discouraging af because magdk suposedly easy pulls 35-40k.

Now here's the effed up part: my stam templar can pull 30k without pierce on a 6m targ dummy. Is stam templar better sustain/dps than magdk or am I seriously f'ing something up?

ha thats funny... i'm honestly in the exact same boat. But replace stamplar 30kish dps with stam sorc and my mag sorc (heavy attack build).

For some reason on the mag dk i can only hit around that 25k mark... sometimes less, sometimes more but never over 30k. I'm always gasping for resources. I follow the meta rotations and builds and i just do not understand how those folks are getting 10k+ more dps than i am

Someone draw me a diagram please.

Dude they literall have a diagram. Where to slot each and every skill, along with the exact order of buttons to press for free 35k dps. But I'm getting.. 23.5k dps.

Mag dk sucks ass in vma, worst resource management ever, worst skill cost in the history of tamriel and all the bliss of leveling ,ages guild, fighters guild, undaunted for a dps toon that supposedly performs. On top of the effort I put in for sharp vma inferno. I GOT NO RESULTS AMD ZOS GUNNA NERF CP. Damn you eso, damn you.

Yeah the CP change is really going to hit the mag DK like a truck. I highly doubt the developers will realize this and make some slight changes to the DK to help. The developers don't seem to get out in front of issues, they are always reaction mode.

Yup. I'd expect the devs to do thimgs like tweak the cost of that ability, adjust a scaling issue there, maybe nerf a skill if needed, or buff another. Maybe undo *part* of a nerf it it was too heavy. You know, balance classes by actually making adjustments to each class. Honestly I'm cool with things shifting around. I favor stam. My main is a stamina templar. I seldom die, have amd can pull 40k dps, and 30k dps on robust with 100% uptime on caltrops. I play from a stamina perspective, I'm used to perpetual damage mitigation, roll dodging. -not popping a shield.

I decided to finally make a mag dps knowing it'd be a world apart. Dk/templar are the 2 most similar. Honestly the dk is a ton of fun. But it has issues. Serious god damn issues. Maybe this is how they balanced it out. Magdk can 'overperform', but only if you've put in the time and practice. That seems fair for any class.

I might make a magplar, with dw vma sharp daggers. I don't have moondancer/ia or any of the other impossibly rare 1h weapons, and in trials magplar often gets guard. I'd love to see an empowered jesus beam.