Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
Basically any combo that involves ultimate use and a hard hitting skill with animation cancelling. Add poisons and proc sets on top of that and there you go.LeifErickson wrote: »
Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Sure.
Doubt your DBoS will do much damage because its an AoE attack and I use Deadly Cloak along with some other pretty nice mitigation things.
My own experience and from the experience talking to others good StamNB on Xbox. Majority of the time you try to use incap on a person they will dodge it either passively or reactively. Even if you CC them beforehand good probability it will be dodge. Also its a issue not sure if its on PC as well but I know on Xbox the ability just won't fire off. You have to press it several times for it to even work and in a fight that's kinda the difference between life and death. On PC I'm pretty sure the number if people dodging incap is higher with addons that tell you when to dodge.LeifErickson wrote: »Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
Where are you getting this 65% statistic? If incap truly sucks then I'm not sure why basically every nightblade I run into NA PC is running incap. You should tell them they are doing something wrong.
My own experience and from the experience talking to others good StamNB on Xbox. Majority of the time you try to use incap on a person they will dodge it either passively or reactively. Even if you CC them beforehand good probability it will be dodge. Also its a issue not sure if its on PC as well but I know on Xbox the ability just won't fire off. You have to press it several times for it to even work and in a fight that's kinda the difference between life and death. On PC I'm pretty sure the number if people dodging incap is higher with addons that tell you when to dodge.LeifErickson wrote: »Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
Where are you getting this 65% statistic? If incap truly sucks then I'm not sure why basically every nightblade I run into NA PC is running incap. You should tell them they are doing something wrong.
My own experience and from the experience talking to others good StamNB on Xbox. Majority of the time you try to use incap on a person they will dodge it either passively or reactively. Even if you CC them beforehand good probability it will be dodge. Also its a issue not sure if its on PC as well but I know on Xbox the ability just won't fire off. You have to press it several times for it to even work and in a fight that's kinda the difference between life and death. On PC I'm pretty sure the number if people dodging incap is higher with addons that tell you when to dodge.LeifErickson wrote: »Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
Where are you getting this 65% statistic? If incap truly sucks then I'm not sure why basically every nightblade I run into NA PC is running incap. You should tell them they are doing something wrong.
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I don't see the issue with Troll King too. I don't have many issues with people who use Troll King and I don't think it's more unbalanced than Skeleton Pirate or Bloodspawn. Proc sets are far worse in my opinion because you don't have to do any work at all to get cheesy kills. I'd rather fight someone who uses Troll King than someone who uses Skoria or Selene.
Either nerf Troll King and half of the 2p sets with it together or leave it as it is.
The way I see it, getting kills with a damage proc set and having your life saved by a defensive proc set are equally cheesy.
But that's the game we're playing.
I disagree.
It's not the same level of cheese.
TK requires you to be actively healing to proc, *and* your health needs to be under 60% while doing so.
With the massive burst damage a lot of players can pull off, this means you need to be really careful to keep those heal ticks up all the time.
IMHO it's one of the least cheesy proc sets because of the double condition - you can't sit on your thumbs and wait for it to proc as easily as the other proc sets. You have to be active and vigilant to some extent.
I always fear before I incap someone common sense as a NB. You don't use incap for the stun fear way bettee you use it for debuffs. With shuffle a stam build can still dodge it and with it not firing off when you press your ultimate a magic build has time to break free and than block or dodge the ability, while you broke your controller, trying to use your incap. When you finally able to use it there no point.My own experience and from the experience talking to others good StamNB on Xbox. Majority of the time you try to use incap on a person they will dodge it either passively or reactively. Even if you CC them beforehand good probability it will be dodge. Also its a issue not sure if its on PC as well but I know on Xbox the ability just won't fire off. You have to press it several times for it to even work and in a fight that's kinda the difference between life and death. On PC I'm pretty sure the number if people dodging incap is higher with addons that tell you when to dodge.LeifErickson wrote: »Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
Where are you getting this 65% statistic? If incap truly sucks then I'm not sure why basically every nightblade I run into NA PC is running incap. You should tell them they are doing something wrong.
How about dont use incap after ambush? Most ppl learned what happened after an ambush. Sounds more like a l2p problem on your site
My own experience and from the experience talking to others good StamNB on Xbox. Majority of the time you try to use incap on a person they will dodge it either passively or reactively. Even if you CC them beforehand good probability it will be dodge. Also its a issue not sure if its on PC as well but I know on Xbox the ability just won't fire off. You have to press it several times for it to even work and in a fight that's kinda the difference between life and death. On PC I'm pretty sure the number if people dodging incap is higher with addons that tell you when to dodge.LeifErickson wrote: »Incap misses 65% of the time easily dodgeable and most of the time now it won't even fire when you activate it, if its hit its good but there better Ultimates that won't miss most of the fight. Incap only good because of its utilities.My crescent sweeps hit 1k less and won't miss.My Leap on my DK hits way harder and again will not miss.The full dawnbreaker hits harder and again won't miss.Incap doesn't hit that hard compared to the other stam ultimates and they hit multiple targets. When the attack misses or doesn't fire majority of the time you active it the ability kinda sucks.LeifErickson wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I think people like to use gold food or tri drink to increase the effectiveness. Also on Stamplar or cp allocation you can proc it without even doing anything. It is very efficient, cannot be debuffed (actually it can apparently), and hits people around you. It seems pretty strong to me.
i'm a stambladeIf you want to take your cancer to the next level, use Viper+Incap for your burst and craft yourself some heavy Orgnum's Scales to skyrocket Troll King's efficacy and send that HP recovery stat to the moon.
incap sucks and im a stambladeusmcjdking wrote: »delete
yeet
What I said applies to stamblade and incap doesn't suck.
Where are you getting this 65% statistic? If incap truly sucks then I'm not sure why basically every nightblade I run into NA PC is running incap. You should tell them they are doing something wrong.
Well, incap does get dodged quite often, but you can, as a caster of incap, prevent this to some degree. Its easy to anticipate when a nb might incap you, most good ppl dodge at that time, either by knowing said fact, or by reflex. Id say, imo experience, the dodgerate of incap is around 30-40%
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Sure.
Doubt your DBoS will do much damage because its an AoE attack and I use Deadly Cloak along with some other pretty nice mitigation things.
you use deadly cloak in duels? lol can i bet 1 bil?
No_True_Scotsman wrote: »(1) fear
(2) incap
(3) ????
(4) profit
No_True_Scotsman wrote: »(1) fear
(2) incap
(3) ????
(4) profit
I think it's:
(1) ambush
(2) ambush
(3) ambush
(4) ambush
(5) ambush
(6) ambush
(7) ambush
(8) ambush
(9) ambush
(10) ambush
(11) ambush
(12) ambush
(13) ambush
(14) ambush
(15) ambush
(16) profit
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Sure.
Doubt your DBoS will do much damage because its an AoE attack and I use Deadly Cloak along with some other pretty nice mitigation things.
you use deadly cloak in duels? lol can i bet 1 bil?
Not in duels in open world, and i'm not gonna bother changing my skills for a duel that will take a few seconds to win.
No_True_Scotsman wrote: »(1) fear
(2) incap
(3) ????
(4) profit
I think it's:
(1) ambush
(2) ambush
(3) ambush
(4) ambush
(5) ambush
(6) ambush
(7) ambush
(8) ambush
(9) ambush
(10) ambush
(11) ambush
(12) ambush
(13) ambush
(14) ambush
(15) ambush
(16) profit
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Major vitality pot
Plenty of CP into healing done and received
Troll king
Vigor/Rally as usual
Keep on dodge rolling
Have fun. Your combined healing ticks can outdo most incoming damage.
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Incap is the strongest ultimate in game for 1v1s period (corrosive is -maybe- stronger, it's debatable). I don't know who you've been dueling but you've obviously not dueled any good stamblades. You're welcome to PC EU if you wanna get some lessons.
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Incap is the strongest ultimate in game for 1v1s period (corrosive is -maybe- stronger, it's debatable). I don't know who you've been dueling but you've obviously not dueled any good stamblades. You're welcome to PC EU if you wanna get some lessons.
Parts of incap miss frequently, go on my YT link is in my signature, in the most recent video you can see a CP 100 dodging my stun, incap misses and is predicable, I like how everyone not on my server is saying it's a L2P issue but no one on mine is
He not PC NA he Xbox NA.Xbox Na has potatoes but no where near the amount of PC.Na.IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Incap is the strongest ultimate in game for 1v1s period (corrosive is -maybe- stronger, it's debatable). I don't know who you've been dueling but you've obviously not dueled any good stamblades. You're welcome to PC EU if you wanna get some lessons.
Parts of incap miss frequently, go on my YT link is in my signature, in the most recent video you can see a CP 100 dodging my stun, incap misses and is predicable, I like how everyone not on my server is saying it's a L2P issue but no one on mine is
Anyone i know that has played both servers by now agrees that if you love potatoes like an irishman does you should play NA.
I mean people reroll from EU because they enjoy your potatoes that much.
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Incap is the strongest ultimate in game for 1v1s period (corrosive is -maybe- stronger, it's debatable). I don't know who you've been dueling but you've obviously not dueled any good stamblades. You're welcome to PC EU if you wanna get some lessons.
Parts of incap miss frequently, go on my YT link is in my signature, in the most recent video you can see a CP 100 dodging my stun, incap misses and is predicable, I like how everyone not on my server is saying it's a L2P issue but no one on mine is
So because we play consoles we don't know what we are talking about?Says the person who need a add on to tell him when to dodge roll use a potion or heal.Nvm guy obviously has no idea what he's on about, arguing with delusional potatoes is pointless.
EDIT: LOL he's from Xbox, no wonder.
So because we play consoles we don't know what we are talking about?Says the person who need a add on to tell him when to dodge roll use a potion or heal.Nvm guy obviously has no idea what he's on about, arguing with delusional potatoes is pointless.
EDIT: LOL he's from Xbox, no wonder.
People who play PC act all high and mighty when they would lose against consoles players. Its hilarious especially when you guys act like we don't know what we are talking about when you guys have the game tell you how to play.
So because we play consoles we don't know what we are talking about?Says the person who need a add on to tell him when to dodge roll use a potion or heal.Nvm guy obviously has no idea what he's on about, arguing with delusional potatoes is pointless.
EDIT: LOL he's from Xbox, no wonder.
People who play PC act all high and mighty when they would lose against consoles players. Its hilarious especially when you guys act like we don't know what we are talking about when you guys have the game tell you how to play.
Most top tier pc players use a very minimal amount of addons. I for one only use FTC cause I'm lazy and cba to keep track of buffs like proxi det or alchemist buff. Also you can't really be serious? PC will stomp console 1v1 any time, like wow how can you be so delusional.
If you can't keep track of simple buffs like proxy and alchemist and you say console player suck. I highly doubt PC players will stomp console players if you really Believe that I feel sorry for you.So because we play consoles we don't know what we are talking about?Says the person who need a add on to tell him when to dodge roll use a potion or heal.Nvm guy obviously has no idea what he's on about, arguing with delusional potatoes is pointless.
EDIT: LOL he's from Xbox, no wonder.
People who play PC act all high and mighty when they would lose against consoles players. Its hilarious especially when you guys act like we don't know what we are talking about when you guys have the game tell you how to play.
Most top tier pc players use a very minimal amount of addons. I for one only use FTC cause I'm lazy and cba to keep track of buffs like proxi det or alchemist buff. Also you can't really be serious? PC will stomp console 1v1 any time, like wow how can you be so delusional.
IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Incap is the strongest ultimate in game for 1v1s period (corrosive is -maybe- stronger, it's debatable). I don't know who you've been dueling but you've obviously not dueled any good stamblades. You're welcome to PC EU if you wanna get some lessons.
Parts of incap miss frequently, go on my YT link is in my signature, in the most recent video you can see a CP 100 dodging my stun, incap misses and is predicable, I like how everyone not on my server is saying it's a L2P issue but no one on mine is
Anyone i know that has played both servers by now agrees that if you love potatoes like an irishman does you sLegendaryChef wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Hey guys lets all drop Incap cause some dude says its trash when in fact its one of the strongest ultimates in the game.
how about this, i'll switch to eu, i'll make a stamblade, then we can duel for 500 mil, i'll use dawnbreaker and you use incap, and when your incap is dodged, blocked, and half of it misses i'll laugh and break the dawn right on your silly little nightblades face
Incap is the strongest ultimate in game for 1v1s period (corrosive is -maybe- stronger, it's debatable). I don't know who you've been dueling but you've obviously not dueled any good stamblades. You're welcome to PC EU if you wanna get some lessons.
Parts of incap miss frequently, go on my YT link is in my signature, in the most recent video you can see a CP 100 dodging my stun, incap misses and is predicable, I like how everyone not on my server is saying it's a L2P issue but no one on mine is
How is a skill that can be animation cancelled in half a second predictable? Unless every time you use it you ambush or heavy 2h attack I don't see your point.
It's use is predictable, do I have CC immunity, no? Expect it. Am I missing more then 75% health? Expect it. Has he used it in the last 30 seconds, no? Expect it.
I wish for just 1 day pc, ps4, and xbone could all play together, then we'd realize there are pugs and good players on all servers, would certainly be great to see @Lord_MK shut down all the PC players calling him bad