Can we have a forum for POSITIVE posts please?

OrphanHelgen

stevesherpa wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

stevesherpa wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Funny you mention, because the way you write your own post, are actually abit negative

How so?

It's short and you use agressive ironic sentence. No emotes, no real arguments other then "I want". I don't know, I'm not a word expert here, but it's not a positive post, I can say.

You're right. You are not a word expert. You did over analyze it though. It was a pretty straight forward and honest post. Take it at face value.

Lol, you are so negative stop it pls, chill pill

OrphanHelgen

ok will stop trolling sorry hehe

Acrolas

Forums are for debate. There are going to be numerous viewpoints, and they're not always going to agree.
Silencing viewpoints you don't agree with, regardless of tone or message, does not accomplish anything except artificially convincing those who remain that their viewpoints are more correct than others.

That said, if you want to say that something was a pleasant surprise or awesome, there's a /feedback option for that.

stevesherpa

Acrolas wrote: »

Forums are for debate. There are going to be numerous viewpoints, and they're not always going to agree.
Silencing viewpoints you don't agree with, regardless of tone or message, does not accomplish anything except artificially convincing those who remain that their viewpoints are more correct than others.

That said, if you want to say that something was a pleasant surprise or awesome, there's a /feedback option for that.

Again, where did I ask to silence viewpoints? I simply asked for a forum where there is more positivity.

Jemcrystal

I can get into positive thinking.

I think zos putting vampirism in an mmo was ingenious! Now have an endless supply of virgins I can take my kinky suck fetishes out on. I rise every evening with a smile.

Keep_Door

If no one liked this game this forum would be dead. All the negative posts are from people who love and care about this game. If they hated this game they wouldnt waste their time provodong feedback.

Lake

You could try the subreddit. Much lower level of activity but slightly less whining.

Rouven

stevesherpa wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Forums are for debate. There are going to be numerous viewpoints, and they're not always going to agree.
Silencing viewpoints you don't agree with, regardless of tone or message, does not accomplish anything except artificially convincing those who remain that their viewpoints are more correct than others.

That said, if you want to say that something was a pleasant surprise or awesome, there's a /feedback option for that.

Again, where did I ask to silence viewpoints? I simply asked for a forum where there is more positivity.

Followed by the extremely positive outlook of: let the flames of roasting commence

In other words you are pouring fuel on the fire instead of being part of the solution.

There is no need for a separate forum, just be more positive yourself.

stevesherpa

Rouven wrote: »

stevesherpa wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Forums are for debate. There are going to be numerous viewpoints, and they're not always going to agree.
Silencing viewpoints you don't agree with, regardless of tone or message, does not accomplish anything except artificially convincing those who remain that their viewpoints are more correct than others.

That said, if you want to say that something was a pleasant surprise or awesome, there's a /feedback option for that.

Again, where did I ask to silence viewpoints? I simply asked for a forum where there is more positivity.

Followed by the extremely positive outlook of: let the flames of roasting commence

In other words you are pouring fuel on the fire instead of being part of the solution.

There is no need for a separate forum, just be more positive yourself.

Not really. I just knew what to expect,.

Turelus

stevesherpa wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

stevesherpa wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Forums are for debate. There are going to be numerous viewpoints, and they're not always going to agree.
Silencing viewpoints you don't agree with, regardless of tone or message, does not accomplish anything except artificially convincing those who remain that their viewpoints are more correct than others.

That said, if you want to say that something was a pleasant surprise or awesome, there's a /feedback option for that.

Again, where did I ask to silence viewpoints? I simply asked for a forum where there is more positivity.

Followed by the extremely positive outlook of: let the flames of roasting commence

In other words you are pouring fuel on the fire instead of being part of the solution.

There is no need for a separate forum, just be more positive yourself.

Not really. I just knew what to expect,.

Generally if you want a positive post, just make one about something interesting.

"What's your characters favourite animal?"
"If your character has scars where did they get them?"

Then keep the threads on topic and have fun talking with the people posting fun. Complaining about the negativity on any MMO forums is just asking for backlash as you said you were aware of.

stevesherpa

What you all aren't understanding is the fact that positive feedback helps ZOS too. It lets them know what IS working and to keep doing. Let me turn it around for you all - lets say you are working at a job, and all you ever hear about is the things you do WRONG, even though there are many things you do right? It is helpful to outline the things one does right before you make a point of showing them what is wrong. That is all I am saying, nothing sinister, not trolling, just trying to keep it balanced.

it is honestly a drag to come in and have to really search hard for a fun/positive/benign post in the GENERAL area, among all of the whining. That is really the simple gist of it. If that offends people in here or sets them off, my apologies.

Churga_Hral

"A Strange Kind of Love"

ComboBreaker88

You're not wrong. The forums seem harsh and negative right now. But they reflect what is going on in the game. The game has so many bugs and lacks basic features (I'm looking at you Guild management tools) with all of the exploits and cheating people are getting fed up. Retreating to a section of the forum that carries a torch for the game for the sake of carrying a torch won't solve anything. People are frustrated it's been YEARS and still things remain broken.

It's actually a good thing people post their problems and concerns in the forum. It shows they genuinely want the game to improve. Yes, many post could be better worded or be Less critical. But at the end of the day they are providing something very valuable. Feedback.

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ZiRM

Acrolas

stevesherpa wrote: »

Let me turn it around for you all - lets say you are working at a job, and all you ever hear about is the things you do WRONG, even though there are many things you do right?

That's a good workplace. I don't need to hear about what I'm doing right. I already know that stuff. I need to hear about what I need to improve. I can't always see that myself. I don't need a workplace with ice cream stations, support animals, and daily awesome awards. I need one with results.

Because results stay in business.

Maff

stevesherpa wrote: »

What you all aren't understanding is the fact that positive feedback helps ZOS too. It lets them know what IS working and to keep doing. Let me turn it around for you all - lets say you are working at a job, and all you ever hear about is the things you do WRONG, even though there are many things you do right? It is helpful to outline the things one does right before you make a point of showing them what is wrong. That is all I am saying, nothing sinister, not trolling, just trying to keep it balanced.

it is honestly a drag to come in and have to really search hard for a fun/positive/benign post in the GENERAL area, among all of the whining. That is really the simple gist of it. If that offends people in here or sets them off, my apologies.

*trying to think of things in the game that are not broken....*

Jitterbug

Acrolas wrote: »

stevesherpa wrote: »

Let me turn it around for you all - lets say you are working at a job, and all you ever hear about is the things you do WRONG, even though there are many things you do right?

That's a good workplace. I don't need to hear about what I'm doing right. I already know that stuff. I need to hear about what I need to improve. I can't always see that myself. I don't need a workplace with ice cream stations, support animals, and daily awesome awards. I need one with results.

Because results stay in business.

So you dont work in a circus I gather?

Katahdin

Jemcrystal wrote: »

I like that Cyrodiil is so large. I hated pvp zones in other games because they were always small and cramped. Or required jumping puzzles to get around. Cyrodiil is a big open world that is very pretty. You can easily travel into enemy territory without ever seeing the opposing teams even at high pop. I like that there are quests and shards and other things to do besides just pvp.

You know, me too. People complain about the size of the map, but I love it for the reasons you mentioned. I also love coming over a hill to find a small battle going on and joining in. I love being able to run off to a quiet corner of the map when I need a break for a few minutes.

Vercingetorix

Speaking only "positive" of the game doesn't allow it to improve. As a developer IRL, I would rather be told what's wrong with my code - not sugar coating its effectiveness. How can problems be fixed if they aren't addressed? My mindset is that if the customer isn't complaining, then the code is effective without flaw. I don't want nor need praise - I need feedback if there's an issue so I can fix it.

Pointing out flaws in a system so they can be focused on is not negative - it's part of the development life-cycle.

CapnPhoton

Greensea wrote: »

I don't think a separate forum is needed, perhaps we should all try to be a bit more positive instead

Yeah this. Constructive and/or positive posts are useful. But you could simply ignore the negative threads. If there is no audience, they may be less frequent.

bowmanz607

well it is generally understood that people will always take time to complain but not to say what they do like because they are too busy enjoying it.

TrueGreenSmoker

Can we have a fixed game that runs properly? Untill then I guess not lol RIOT!!

Enslaved

stevesherpa wrote: »

Hi ZOS,

Can we have a separate general forum for positive postings? Some of us actually like the game.

(let the flames of roasting commence).

You mean, like " I was tested yesterday by police, and I was positive on meth"?

TrueGreenSmoker

Jemcrystal wrote: »

I can get into positive thinking.

I think zos putting vampirism in an mmo was ingenious! Now have an endless supply of virgins I can take my kinky suck fetishes out on. I rise every evening with a smile.

Every evening damn.. They only let me hit that once in the week you luckyyyy lol

Jitterbug

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Speaking only "positive" of the game doesn't allow it to improve. As a developer IRL, I would rather be told what's wrong with my code - not sugar coating its effectiveness. How can problems be fixed if they aren't addressed? My mindset is that if the customer isn't complaining, then the code is effective without flaw. I don't want nor need praise - I need feedback if there's an issue so I can fix it.

Pointing out flaws in a system so they can be focused on is not negative - it's part of the development life-cycle.

I insightful'ed you but I have a note.
As a musician I feel the same way, but there has to be a balance. I wouldn't like coming down from the stage having poured my heart out in front of 300 people and only hearing the comment "the e string was out of tune in the second song".

KochDerDamonen

lele xdd *makes obvious troll posts*


OP makes me puke, really bringing down the quality of the forum and game as a whole here

Bombashaman

You can make one yourself: https://www.proboards.com/ . Making "all positive postings" -forum would require some heavy moderating from ZOS, meaning extra expenditure. I personally don't want to pay extra for that, I hate any kind on censoring anyway.

Lauranae

This game has not even 3 years (April 2017 will be anniversary for 3 years)... so we can not say we have been waiting for years ... as in any other games i played in which after 5 or 7 years, there is still bugs never taken care off.

Personaly, i say that what they did by introducing Tamriel in 2016 was the best move.
They took a big risk, they could have shut down all and say lets not bother.
They listen to you (i do not include myself as i left after 6 months). I went back with Tamriel and i enjoy the game as it is.

Sur there is some bugs, and there will be also some functionality of the game that some of us will not like, but so far, i do not complain. I am patient.
I was with other games that deceived me far more than this one.
(Last one game i left i deleted 2 accounts of 17 characters build over 5 years. I know i will never go back even if they radically changed all they done lately.)

So, may be in 2 more years i will rant and grumble, but for now, i give them time. (i report every bug i encounter i am not though a passive one accepting all as it is)

I also do a difference between complaining for complaining and ranting and insulting, and reporting bug with constructives effects, to help them.

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

You're not wrong. The forums seem harsh and negative right now. But they reflect what is going on in the game. The game has so many bugs and lacks basic features (I'm looking at you Guild management tools) with all of the exploits and cheating people are getting fed up. Retreating to a section of the forum that carries a torch for the game for the sake of carrying a torch won't solve anything. People are frustrated it's been YEARS and still things remain broken.

It's actually a good thing people post their problems and concerns in the forum. It shows they genuinely want the game to improve. Yes, many post could be better worded or be Less critical. But at the end of the day they are providing something very valuable. Feedback.

stevesherpa

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

lele xdd *makes obvious troll posts*


OP makes me puke, really bringing down the quality of the forum and game as a whole here

How> Ive posted 3 or 4 times maybe, and I am on a platform, not the PC, so I fail to see how I have "brought down the quality of the forums and the game." Umad?