Remove training and prosperous drops?

Gordon906

All dungeon set drops and undaunted chest will no longer have prosperous and training traits.

notimetocare

Keep it.

Did we really need another one?

Gordon906

Remove it.

notimetocare wrote: »

Did we really need another one?

Yes because it is for your convenience and I think you should stop opposing something that benefits you. So we will do what it takes until something changes.

IwakuraLain42

Keep it.

As unpopular this sounds but the traits need to stay in the loot table. They are there to bring the average chance to get a "good" trait to a specific value. It's meant to keep us playing the game.

Sharee

Keep it.

Prosperous is debatable, because (someone did the math) you actually save more money on gear repairs using impenetrable than you gain extra money using prosperous.

But training is actually useful. Not everyone in this game has everything maxed out.

LorDrek

Remove it.

From 160cp.

lonewolf26

Remove it.

Training on end-game drops is pretty much useless.

Prosperous is worthless in anything other than a large public dungeon. If you're in a trial, you're lucky if a mob drops a single gold piece. No amount of prosperous gear is going to change it. Dungeon and overland the percentage increase is negligible. Both of these traits need to be stricken from end-game loot tables - trials, CP160 dungeons, VMA, VDSA. They've got to go.

These traits don't keep us playing, they wear us down, burn us out and ultimately make us feel like what we've been doing has been worthless. Get rid of 'em.

Mayrael

Remove it.

I hate this traits. Eventhough I use sometimes training, I hate it so much when after 30 runs you finaly get a shield you wanted to only see its AGAIN training or prosperous... So I simply quit instead of trying again.

Jitterbug

Remove it.

They need to be merged and given as a free starter-trait for crafters.

The prosperous/training traits is one of many reasons I completely gave up on itemization in ESO. It's very hard to take the "work" seriously when it's such an obvious joke on all grinders. Light armor with healing 5 pc rolls in sturdy or reinforced. Damage weapons roll in +healing (and all other traits than sharpened can just be vendored they're so useless).

So I play in sub-optimal gear because life is simply too short to be spent hovering over a boss spawn waiting for your 1/372 chance to get a piece of gear that will make you DPS go up by 1000 until a new set of gear is introduced or the developers decide to "revamp" their system (again).

zaria

Remove it.

Sharee wrote: »

Prosperous is debatable, because (someone did the math) you actually save more money on gear repairs using impenetrable than you gain extra money using prosperous.

But training is actually useful. Not everyone in this game has everything maxed out.

Yes but you have crafted sets who can have any trait.

Turelus

Keep it.

I want my grind alt in Training BSW armour.

getemshauna

Turelus wrote: »

I want my grind alt in Training BSW armour.

And ull waste a time to get bse training on low level, instead of spending same time directly for exping? *** logic.

KeiruNicrom

Remove it.

Prosperous needs to be removed completely. tis quite useless

Training can be kept but removed from loot tables for lvl50 160 cp+ characters

Turelus

Keep it.

gethemshauna wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

I want my grind alt in Training BSW armour.

And ull waste a time to get bse training on low level, instead of spending same time directly for exping? *** logic.

C160 Training. I don't need it for levelling my alts but XP grinding for CP on then.

O_LYKOS

Remove it.

Remove it from Monster sets. And even all sets once you're above 160. They are useless and hated amongst the community.

S1ipperyJim

Keep it.

Prosperous trait is great for making a ton of gold farming dungeons for gear. These shouldn't be a trait on set items though. Perhaps that's what you meant?

SirAndy

Keep it.

Training can be a very useful trait ...

Tornaad

Keep it.

LorDrek wrote: »

From 160cp.

I can agree with that, but altogether no. It should at least stay for non champion level characters.

Kesstryl

Keep it.

Keep them. Not everyone has all alts maxed. New players and those with low level alts benefit from these stats.

Cêltic421

Keep it.

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

As unpopular this sounds but the traits need to stay in the loot table. They are there to bring the average chance to get a "good" trait to a specific value. It's meant to keep us playing the game.

What s/he said. ^^

Argawarga

Keep it.

I vote to keep Taining but to remove it from cp160 gear entirely.

Overworld questing is way too easy, and running Prosperous is lovely way to increase the difficulty and profit. Maybe this should only exist for crafted gear?

LiquidPony

Keep it.

Armor traits make such a small difference on 1 or 2 pieces that I don't see why this is such an issue, honestly. Running a Prosperous Monster shoulder instead of a Divines one you lose something like 0.4% damage.

I'm more concerned that a staff is garbage if it isn't Sharpened.

I'd be fine with keeping Prosperous/Training in the game, even for Undaunted and Dungeon drops, and fine with the *** Maelstrom/Trial loot tables ... if they'd just close the gap between Sharpened and Precise/Nirnhoned.

RebornV3x

Remove it.

Remove the traits from dropped gear and give Training and Prosperous gear to all those Armorers, Leatherworkers, Tailors, and Weaponsmiths around so people can still research the gear since I have no idea how gear merchents stay employed since they sell overpriced white gear with no traits or enchants that nobody at this point in the game would be sane enough to buy.

Training and Prosperous on dropped gear sets is a punch in the *** like anyone in there right mind is going to grind cp or gold in BIS gear with all Training/Prosperous. If your going to grind using those traits might as well craft it and save time.

Amadis001

Remove it.

If they want to fire blanks to keep the drop rate of good gear where they want it, they might as well just award you a piece of rubedite out of that chest instead of giving you a prosperous or training pauldron. At least it would save me a walk to the blacksmith.

idk

Keep it.

notimetocare wrote: »

Did we really need another one?

We need more worthless polls. We live for them. Unsure what the "pollster" is thinking this poll will accomplish other than gain some meaningless information.

Gordon906

Remove it.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

Did we really need another one?

We need more worthless polls. We live for them. Unsure what the "pollster" is thinking this poll will accomplish other than gain some meaningless information.

Maybe it will mean more if something were to happen and I think it's worth a shot. But if you're hopeless you may never get it.

BRCOURTN

LiquidPony wrote: »

I'm more concerned that a staff is garbage if it isn't Sharpened.

I'd be fine with keeping Prosperous/Training in the game, even for Undaunted and Dungeon drops, and fine with the *** Maelstrom/Trial loot tables ... if they'd just close the gap between Sharpened and Precise/Nirnhoned.

Agree with this completely. It seems like they could even provide a decent role for infused or decisive weapons. This is what they should be doing for balance. Making some of these traits more viable for end game builds would throw a ton more diversity into the game. There'll always be meta builds to play, but they could at least do a bit more to bring other builds up to higher level.

SFDB

How about we make them more useful? And rename Training, because endgame gear with "training" on it is like a space shuttle operations manual coming in the form of a coloring book.

Tommy_The_Gun

Keep it.

If training and prosperous won't drop any more... how we will be supposed to research it ...?

Tabbycat

Keep it.

Future Natch Potes Update:

Due to player feedback, all training and prosperous items that were part of dungeon sets and undaunted chests have been removed and replaced with items that have no traits on them.

Peekachu99

Remove it.

I voted "remove", but I'll be using a fully crafted set of training gear and XP scrolls to boost my baby-Warden to CP cap soon as Morrowind hits.

But that's a one off and those traits belong ONLY ON CRAFTED GEAR--should be removed from all other loot tables (as well as being an option on this poll).