Will you kill at imperial city crafting station's front door?

mtwiggz

Other

Will say that it depends on their level and numbers, as well as if they attack me first.

In an open PvP environment anyone going down there should expect PvP regardless of what they're doing. I tend not to attack solo players who look like they're just PvE'ing, are a low level, or plain and simply leave me alone. Yet occasionally if I leave them alone and they find a group of their same faction, they end up attacking me in numbers.

End all be all is that you're in a PvP zone. One that gives you a reward for killing players if that unlucky person happens to have TV on them. Don't ever expect to go to a PvP area and not get killed. You have to be prepared to fight.

nimander99

Only if they attack first

A lot of the master writ legendary quests lead to IC, I leave them in peace to do their writ and collect their voucher's, probably don't want to be there in the first place and I don't care to bug people that aren't in a pvp zone to pvp.

Just like fishing, I see people fishing in IC ill go fish next to them, even if from another alliance, they are just trying to complete the achievement, its understandable. And they prolly aren't dumb enough to have a billion tel var stones on them anyways. So whats the point? Ruin someones day? Have fun with that...

Banana

Never go there alone

I tend to avoid all those crafting jobs. Being molested on the way annoys me.

Khenarthi

I'm lucky that my main crafter is a magicka nightblade: when I need to use a station in IC I basically cloak in and cloak out (even though there are many ways to counter cloak). And I run away if I see people from another faction.

Cryptical

No, let's craft in peace and leave after

Qbiken wrote: »

AP is AP no matter what

LadyLavina wrote: »

Kill them all w/ no regret

These are two examples of why pvp populations in some campaigns are low.

I spent over a month stuck on the imperial city quest where you have to defend the three doors from waves of daedra. That quest is on the highway between where reds pop up from their sewer zone on the way to farm in the yellow tunnels. A lone aldmeri player in the middle of a long quest in the wide open, I got ganked and killed over and over by people coming past. Sometimes they would stand there visible while I was dealing with the quest mobs, then several of them would jump me and disappear without finishing the mob, so I couldn't get the quest credit to continue past that door. Sometimes the quest would glitch because I got killed, never spawning the wave of daedra at the door no matter how long I waited, forcing me to abandon and restart.

It's because of the attitude I received from many dozens of reds on the Xbox NA server, so plainly on display from these two I quoted, that left such a bad taste in my mouth over pvp that when new people ask me what it is like I tell them flat out that there are a few nice people but there are way too many with the mentality of a selfish teen jock who plays mean pranks on the nice kid.

I don't have fun in pvp anymore. I avoid it, and participated in double-ap event as a chore / job just to get some ap for the golden merchant.

Congrats Q and Lady, you were a wonderful negative example for today's topic of ethical sportsmanship behavior. Thank you for reminding us that common courtesy is unfortunately not common enough, and that the wisdom of a few years ago "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game" has been cast aside by some in favor of the amoral "winning is the only thing" guiding principle.

For putting into so few words that other people are worth zero consideration beyond what they mean to your personal score, Bravo. Bravo.

geonsocal

Other

by and large - i rarely attack solo players...unless i'm bored or i'm looking to bloodport...in which case I'll normally unstealth and put up the 'ol block sign and throw one or two abilities...if they're not into it...easy to find someone else...

I have more fun in cyro and IC tracking folks, following behind them and then doing some emote until they realize they're not alone...

not sure why - but, it's always been fun and challenging for me to see if I can get other players not to fight...

I do more than enough killing in zerg and small scale pvp...it's nice to be able to relax and joke around at times...

akl77

No, let's craft in peace and leave after

Khenarthi wrote: »

I'm lucky that my main crafter is a magicka nightblade: when I need to use a station in IC I basically cloak in and cloak out (even though there are many ways to counter cloak). And I run away if I see people from another faction.

Yea the cloak is awesome.

akl77

No, let's craft in peace and leave after

Cryptical wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

AP is AP no matter what

LadyLavina wrote: »

Kill them all w/ no regret

These are two examples of why pvp populations in some campaigns are low.

I spent over a month stuck on the imperial city quest where you have to defend the three doors from waves of daedra. That quest is on the highway between where reds pop up from their sewer zone on the way to farm in the yellow tunnels. A lone aldmeri player in the middle of a long quest in the wide open, I got ganked and killed over and over by people coming past. Sometimes they would stand there visible while I was dealing with the quest mobs, then several of them would jump me and disappear without finishing the mob, so I couldn't get the quest credit to continue past that door. Sometimes the quest would glitch because I got killed, never spawning the wave of daedra at the door no matter how long I waited, forcing me to abandon and restart.

It's because of the attitude I received from many dozens of reds on the Xbox NA server, so plainly on display from these two I quoted, that left such a bad taste in my mouth over pvp that when new people ask me what it is like I tell them flat out that there are a few nice people but there are way too many with the mentality of a selfish teen jock who plays mean pranks on the nice kid.

I don't have fun in pvp anymore. I avoid it, and participated in double-ap event as a chore / job just to get some ap for the golden merchant.

Congrats Q and Lady, you were a wonderful negative example for today's topic of ethical sportsmanship behavior. Thank you for reminding us that common courtesy is unfortunately not common enough, and that the wisdom of a few years ago "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game" has been cast aside by some in favor of the amoral "winning is the only thing" guiding principle.

For putting into so few words that other people are worth zero consideration beyond what they mean to your personal score, Bravo. Bravo.

That's what it's like in the real world, some people have more conscious, some people would stab you in the back no matter what. The poll shows even balance, interesting.

Integral1900

This kind of thing is why with luck we will never see another mixed pvp and pve zone, it's a busted flush, just like the failed Craglorn project. The two communities are not compatible, any more than you can sit in a full bath and have someone drop in a five bar electric fire and expect everything to be hunky dory. I don't understand why a pve player like me can't pay an upgrade or surcharge to get a pve only instance, surely that's the best of both worlds isn't it? We would both get what we want

Eirikir

Yes, kill at first sight

I voted yes not because I would attack someone crafting there, but because sometimes I do camp where resource nodes pop and am a bit of an a****** at times. But hey I'm honest about it.

technohic

Yes, kill at first sight

I wouldn't camp it, but if I'm passing by, I'm going to go on the offensive rather than wait for them to attack

dday3six

Yes, kill at first sight

It's a pvp zone, players entering it should expect pvp to happen. I see opposing players, 9 times outta 10 I'm going to attack them. I expect them to do the same to me.

AlwaysOnFire

Only if they attack first

I'd defend myself if attacked, but otherwise the payoff for camping these places is relatively low. The people going there are not nessesarily looking to 1v1 my punk ass and even if I won because they were not prepared it just isn't very satisfying. The whole point of Cyrodiil usually is that if you go there, it is your objective to fight others and you have prepared to do so and consented to do so. But being pulled there for crafting writs or whatever is another story.

While in a way points are points its just not an efficient way of getting points and not an efficient way to sate any kind of craving for a satisfying fight. An 'easy win' can be validating for some but it gets stale.

Rohamad_Ali

I don't own imperial city expansion . When I went in during subscription time everyone was either ganking or running in a big group or televising a stream to show off small group or 1 v X vs PVE players . It was awful for a PVP zone with all the damn NPCs all over the place . Should just make that mess a separate PVE zone . It's a waste and only populated when theirs some double tel var stone event . An to answer the op , I'm not voting cause I don't go down there but if I did , I have no interest ganking crafters .

Osteos

When you enter a PvP zone you cease being anything other than a PvP player. It doesn't matter your reason for entering.

Cêltic421

Depends on their level / numbers

Yea kill. Idc about what level they are. It's more about the numbers. I'm not going to attack if I know I can't atleast take one down or more down before I go down.

Abeille

Only if they attack first

I usually block or /wave only for a bit to see if they realize I mean no harm, and if they keep trying to kill me then I start attacking too (but I never had to, they always stop).

I do not attack first. I'm a crafter too so it could be my Orsimer lady on that situation in another day.

People are generally nice when I'm doing stuff unrelated to PvP in Cyrodiil or in the IC, so I suppose this is general game etiquette. I was never even attacked during all the time that I took to get all the Cyrodiilic fish, and I was never killed while going to a crafting station, people always stop when they realize I'm not interested in fighting back.

Albino_Dunmer

Yes, kill at first sight

KOS.

I don't know your intentions. Could be that you are just waiting there to bait someone of my alliance, waiting to kill one of them you saw enter, or you are just passing through that area loaded with tel var. It is a PvP zone. I'm forced to PvE and move through PvE content to get the sets I want, you assume the risk when you make the journey.

Just stealth in and stealth out and you'll have no problem. You have options available to you to avoid attacks from happening. You can queue into another campaign to leave. You can enter a low population campaign like Azura's Star. I've farmed Tel Var there with a handful of ppl and there is pretty much no one in the IC because it's a no CP campaign and you are mostly fighting mobs. It's kind of a pain in the ass to farm bosses in it with no CP though. Need a competent and well organized but small group to do it efficiently.

Anyways, point being, you have options available to you to avoid confrontation. I'm just gonna assume you are there for PvP if you decide to go to a station in an semi-active campaign. Not my problem you didn't take advantage of all the various methods available to you to make it to that station safely. It's a game and my method of playing it is to fight other players and enrich myself to increase my ability to be competitive. The AP and Tel Var I get from you may be small, but as far as I am concerned that is the purpose of other players from other factions. You are nodes to be farmed that can fight back lol. Not gonna stop my gameplay experience to accommodate yours. It really isn't that big of a deal to get back to the station anyways. You can get within a minute of any station from your faction base.

Not even sure why this is a question. Sort of silly to expect other players to accommodate your experience at the expense of theirs.

zuto40

Yes, kill at first sight

Typhoios wrote: »

It depends entirely on if I am currently annoyed with your faction. Most of the time I leave solo questers and crafters alone.

if i was recently killed by your faction im sorry but ap is ap

bloodthirstyvampire

Never go there alone

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/1986543/grumpy-assassin

Eleusian

Only if they attack first

I really think IC needs detached from Cyrrodil. A lot of fun in cyrrodil wondering were everyone is going Cowboy trying to take keeps when your alliance has bars and no one to be seen.

rimmidimdim

Yes, kill at first sight

Won't be a thing soon anyway. Attunable crafting stations are popping up in houses ( guild halls) everywhere. And the IC ones are being done first. So shoot first receive angry pm's later.

Lexxypwns

Yes, kill at first sight

As a solo player that doesn't use stealth, everyone is KoS in pvp zones. I just can't risk you having 3 friends that are gonna ride up on me in 2 minutes...

LadyLavina

Yes, kill at first sight

Cryptical wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

AP is AP no matter what

LadyLavina wrote: »

Kill them all w/ no regret

These are two examples of why pvp populations in some campaigns are low.

I spent over a month stuck on the imperial city quest where you have to defend the three doors from waves of daedra. That quest is on the highway between where reds pop up from their sewer zone on the way to farm in the yellow tunnels. A lone aldmeri player in the middle of a long quest in the wide open, I got ganked and killed over and over by people coming past. Sometimes they would stand there visible while I was dealing with the quest mobs, then several of them would jump me and disappear without finishing the mob, so I couldn't get the quest credit to continue past that door. Sometimes the quest would glitch because I got killed, never spawning the wave of daedra at the door no matter how long I waited, forcing me to abandon and restart.

It's because of the attitude I received from many dozens of reds on the Xbox NA server, so plainly on display from these two I quoted, that left such a bad taste in my mouth over pvp that when new people ask me what it is like I tell them flat out that there are a few nice people but there are way too many with the mentality of a selfish teen jock who plays mean pranks on the nice kid.

I don't have fun in pvp anymore. I avoid it, and participated in double-ap event as a chore / job just to get some ap for the golden merchant.

Congrats Q and Lady, you were a wonderful negative example for today's topic of ethical sportsmanship behavior. Thank you for reminding us that common courtesy is unfortunately not common enough, and that the wisdom of a few years ago "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game" has been cast aside by some in favor of the amoral "winning is the only thing" guiding principle.

For putting into so few words that other people are worth zero consideration beyond what they mean to your personal score, Bravo. Bravo.

Ethical Sportsmanship? Common Courtesy? It's a video game and a pvp zone, stop trying to take some kind of moral high ground that doesn't exist.

Edit: Seriously this **** is unreal @Cryptical , you took a simple pvp issue and tried to make me out to be some kind of bad person b/c I fight in an area where it's permitted in a game....

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

Only if they attack first

I go into IC with my Crafter from time to time and just head to the craft station to craft and then get out. (I don't do PvP with my Crafter, he isn't set up for it).

Many times I try to just get in and out but Reds and Blues (EP and DC) flock to IC in droves and if they see me they just kill me, took me 6 times (6 deaths) to access the Crafting building one night..

one of the stations I am always going to (for my Guild and friends, and no I wont advertise which one because it will be even more camped by enemy players) always has NPC Daedra hanging out near the door and they have to be killed before you gain access. if EP or DC see you doing this, it's like fair game.

I have told many guild members that when I get attunable crafting stations, that will be the first one or when they hit 9 traits they can go and craft it themselves..

Savos_Saren

Only if they attack first

I know it's only a video game... but I have myself-proclaimed "honor/rules" in ESO:

1.) Thou shalt not fight someone who's blatantly AFK
2.) Thou shalt not fight someone who holds up "block" instead of fighting.
3.) Thou shalt not take a node/treasure chest from someone who's fighting enemies near it.
4.) Thou shalt not make fun of RPers doing normal things.
5.) Thou shalt not disrespect a noob who's willing to take advice.
6.) Thou shalt not teabag an enemy. (Your own idiot teammates are fair-game, though.)
7.) Thou shalt not leave crown.
8.) Thou shalt not run a glass cannon DPS build.
9.) Thou shalt not run a heal-only healer build.
10.) Thou shalt not merely hold aggro as a tank.

I consider the highlighted ones the most important.

Recremen

Only if they attack first

I couldn't possibly be bothered attacking someone trying to get into one of those doors. Like it's just the most improbably combination of things. First, I'd have to be in IC, which while it's fun it's a rarity for me, then I'd have to be near one of those doors, and there would also have to be someone else of a rival faction at the same door. I guess maybe if I didn't know they were trying to get in there I might engage but otherwise? Totes not worth my time or their pain.