Stamina Templars: what are we good at?

Tyrusaran

you could try being a stamDK instead :P

hmsdragonfly

Roleplaying

Since most of the recipes aren't Green Pact friendly, the same go for most of the furniture, provisioning and furnishing aren't viable options for my Bosmer stamplar.

React

Roleplaying

Stamplar is basically only good as a support DPS in vet dungeons when talking about PvE.

Stamplar in PVP right now has the POTENTIAL to be good when utilized by good players. It's been really nice seeing all the wannabe stamplars try to make POTL builds and failing miserably when they realize how difficult the rotation becomes. Easy pickings for us skilled stamplars

Pallio

Provisioning

Cooking and holding up to 160 things for the real adventures.

Anti_Virus

Roleplaying

Stam Weaponknight is in the same boat.

CyrusArya

What a ridiculous thread. Stamplar is hands down one of the most powerful classes in PvP, just requires a bit more finesse to get the most out of it. Has incredible tools both offensively and defensively. Im getting so sick of these threads by people about how their class is too weak and unplayable or other classes are broken op. Game is very balanced right now and every class can be really good. Yall need to learn to play.

WreckfulAbandon

CyrusArya wrote: »

What a ridiculous thread. Stamplar is hands down one of the most powerful classes in PvP, just requires a bit more finesse to get the most out of it. Has incredible tools both offensively and defensively. Im getting so sick of these threads by people about how their class is too weak and unplayable or other classes are broken op. Game is very balanced right now and every class can be really good. Yall need to learn to play.

Since you forgot to I'll go ahead and drop that mic for ya.

*thud*

OdinForge

CyrusArya wrote: »

What a ridiculous thread. Stamplar is hands down one of the most powerful classes in PvP, just requires a bit more finesse to get the most out of it. Has incredible tools both offensively and defensively. Im getting so sick of these threads by people about how their class is too weak and unplayable or other classes are broken op. Game is very balanced right now and every class can be really good. Yall need to learn to play.

OOJIMMY

CyrusArya wrote: »

What a ridiculous thread. Stamplar is hands down one of the most powerful classes in PvP, just requires a bit more finesse to get the most out of it. Has incredible tools both offensively and defensively. Im getting so sick of these threads by people about how their class is too weak and unplayable or other classes are broken op. Game is very balanced right now and every class can be really good. Yall need to learn to play.

I partially agree.
Comparatively​ the stamplar is by far out classed by our classes. Our class passive are mediocre, with only a few actually being beneficial to help out.
My only true complaint is, we for a fact have sustain issues. Repentance is a nice ability don't get me wrong, but when it comes to longer boss fights or duels against other similarly skilled players we have nothing besides our natural Regen to sustain us.

CyrusArya

OOJIMMY wrote: »

I partially agree.
Comparatively​ the stamplar is by far out classed by our classes. Our class passive are mediocre, with only a few actually being beneficial to help out.
My only true complaint is, we for a fact have sustain issues. Repentance is a nice ability don't get me wrong, but when it comes to longer boss fights or duels against other similarly skilled players we have nothing besides our natural Regen to sustain us.

Sure, not every passive is super relevant but the ones that do apply are extremely strong. You have to also consider that what stamplar lacks in passives it makes up for by way of having some of the most powerful active skills around. Jabs, power of the light, extended ritual, restoring focus. 4 of the best skills in the game on their own merits, especially on a stamina spec. And each one is buffed by the passives. Jabs procs burning light, the house gives mending on both skills, and potl gives ulti per cast. So I disagree that the passives are mediocre. Also 4% cost reduction across the board and 6% weapon damage is nice.

Yes the sustain is bad, but this is a function of balance. Stamplar damage potential is too high and the defenses too good for them to be able to naturally sustain as well as the other 3 classes. This prompts you to run medium armor or cost reduction/regen glyphs which balances the build out. If Stamplar could run heavy armor the way a DK, Sorc, or NB does it would be straight up broken.

O_LYKOS

Being deleted to make room for magicka Templar?

geonsocal

roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »

Just wondering.

Stamina Templars: what are we good at?

geonsocal

CyrusArya wrote: »

Yes the sustain is bad, but this is a function of balance. Stamplar damage potential is too high and the defenses too good for them to be able to naturally sustain as well as the other 3 classes. This prompts you to run medium armor or cost reduction/regen glyphs which balances the build out. If Stamplar could run heavy armor the way a DK, Sorc, or NB does it would be straight up broken.

my orc stamplar wears black rose and chugs purple regen drinks...true though - i can't spam attacks all day like some other classes i play - but, if i'm careful with my rotation and weave in light and heavy attacks, i can keep fighting for awhile if i have to...

Ep1kMalware

CyrusArya wrote: »

What a ridiculous thread. Stamplar is hands down one of the most powerful classes in PvP, just requires a bit more finesse to get the most out of it. Has incredible tools both offensively and defensively. Im getting so sick of these threads by people about how their class is too weak and unplayable or other classes are broken op. Game is very balanced right now and every class can be really good. Yall need to learn to play.

Same in pve. If you're used to outsourcing your utility and having a simpke rotation the class isn't for you. Stam temp takes a hella lot of practice but can parse fantastic dps with high damage mitigation. Repentence is nice where it's at: it's useful like other recovery mechanisms but only functions after adds die. It can be really hard to sustain stam temp but in a supportive group it's not so much a dire issue.

With recovery nerfs stam builds will be making a comeback I'm sure. Stamplar can offer alot.

Sustain isn't *that* horrible but for really long fights I have to outsource for sustain, at least if I want to keep good dps. Dks have the advantage here because they have another dot they can put on the boss. Sorcs have their advantages as well.

Stamplar shines in trash/splash damage with good group utility in multi target situations. I'm glad everyone thinks they suck, it's my favorite class and doesn't need any more nerfs.

Duiwel

PvP

Ep1kMalware

CyrusArya wrote: »

OOJIMMY wrote: »

I partially agree.
Comparatively​ the stamplar is by far out classed by our classes. Our class passive are mediocre, with only a few actually being beneficial to help out.
My only true complaint is, we for a fact have sustain issues. Repentance is a nice ability don't get me wrong, but when it comes to longer boss fights or duels against other similarly skilled players we have nothing besides our natural Regen to sustain us.

Sure, not every passive is super relevant but the ones that do apply are extremely strong. You have to also consider that what stamplar lacks in passives it makes up for by way of having some of the most powerful active skills around. Jabs, power of the light, extended ritual, restoring focus. 4 of the best skills in the game on their own merits, especially on a stamina spec. And each one is buffed by the passives. Jabs procs burning light, the house gives mending on both skills, and potl gives ulti per cast. So I disagree that the passives are mediocre. Also 4% cost reduction across the board and 6% weapon damage is nice.

Yes the sustain is bad, but this is a function of balance. Stamplar damage potential is too high and the defenses too good for them to be able to naturally sustain as well as the other 3 classes. This prompts you to run medium armor or cost reduction/regen glyphs which balances the build out. If Stamplar could run heavy armor the way a DK, Sorc, or NB does it would be straight up broken.

Restoring focus most op skill in game. It's an instant ability that gives 3 majors and 3 minor buffs, and costs nothimg. Err ZOS DELETE STSMPLERS DEY USELESSZ

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

The most OP class in pvp and pve

inb4 triggered

For real. #1 trials player on ps4 gets #1 every week on stam templar. Stam templar is an awesome class, it's awesomely tanky, I do my vet dailies in med armour, 11.4k hp, while healing the group af tanking half the time. Stam temp is dmg mitigation master.

Stam temp is only behind stam dk in single target dps. It has nothing on mag sorc burst aoe but its sustained aoe is way good. Stam temp is made whole by some passives most people don't understand and a very odd incredibly complex rotation that would make most mag dk's quit the game. It's a phenominal class and I have fun with it.

Off point, after 10hrs farming vma on my stamplar I got lucky and got sharp vma bow. I'm parsing 38k with spriggans and 31k with tbs on 3m hp dummy all solo. My frontbar vma dw isn't sharp so having to use sriggans is gimping me atm. But the build is beast.

If you know stamplar builds then it goes without saying it's a portable heal tank with high sustained aoe dps.

Vet dailies with 11.4k health as a heal/tank?

Ep1kMalware

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

The most OP class in pvp and pve

inb4 triggered

For real. #1 trials player on ps4 gets #1 every week on stam templar. Stam templar is an awesome class, it's awesomely tanky, I do my vet dailies in med armour, 11.4k hp, while healing the group af tanking half the time. Stam temp is dmg mitigation master.

Stam temp is only behind stam dk in single target dps. It has nothing on mag sorc burst aoe but its sustained aoe is way good. Stam temp is made whole by some passives most people don't understand and a very odd incredibly complex rotation that would make most mag dk's quit the game. It's a phenominal class and I have fun with it.

Off point, after 10hrs farming vma on my stamplar I got lucky and got sharp vma bow. I'm parsing 38k with spriggans and 31k with tbs on 3m hp dummy all solo. My frontbar vma dw isn't sharp so having to use sriggans is gimping me atm. But the build is beast.

If you know stamplar builds then it goes without saying it's a portable heal tank with high sustained aoe dps.

Vet dailies with 11.4k health as a heal/tank?

The only thing you need to do is not get 1 shot. I found this blue food recipe that gives me about 1600 stam recovery total and almost 5k max stam. as long as you keep vigor/restoring focus/blade cloak applied and dodgeroll when you needed you cant die. Few atks hit over 4k.