Earthtear Cavern is more expensive than Mass Effect Andromeda

Origin

Let's see:
Earthtear Cavern
13000 Crowns not furnished = 90 EUR
16300 Crowns furnished = 105 EUR

ESO Crowns
5500 crowns = 34.99 EUR
3000 crowns = 20.99 EUR

Mass Effect Andromeda
Editions:
Standard - 59.90 EUR
Deluxe - 69.99 EUR
Super Deluxe - 89.99 EUR

So, Earthtear Cavern unfurnished is more expensive than both Mass Effect Andromeda Standard and Deluxe edition, being on par with Super Deluxe edition. The Earthtear Cavern furnished is more expensive than all the Mass Effect editions.

While Mass Effect Andromeda was in development for 5 years with a team of 200 developers in all 3 BioWare's studios (Wiki Mass Effect: Andromeda) and a huge budget (ME3 budget was around 40 millions - The state of AAA games - and MEA is bigger than ME3 and is using a different engine), the Earthtear Cavern is practically an empty space with no functionality and objects which you cannot interact with - that most likely took a couple of man days to make.

I think this is a perfect example how ridiculous is ZoS pricing the digital content in ESO. Even if we consider the case of a player having a subscription and using the crowns granted when the subscription is renewed, those crowns are not free since the subscription costs real money too.

What do you think about the prices and the value of the digital content available in ESO?

RazielSR

Yes it ia completely ridiculous. Anyway,Im not gonna buy any house at least until future sales or if they add boxes(space).

Cant wait for Mass Effect Andromeda anyway!

Vaoh

People may bash you for making a comparison to a different game, but you are absolutely correct. The pricing is insane.

I mean..... it's not for me to say what ZOS should and shouldn't price their stuff at. They know how crazy it is. I simply won't buy it, and neither will like 99% of their playerbase.

Makes a cool "Preview" for about 10 minutes though, I'll give it that

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Someone make an ESO addon that shows the equivalent price (in the currency of your choice) next to the crown price.

Digielf

But Mass Effect Andromeda lasts for like 1 week and then there's nothing to do (story takes 4 days at most). ESO is an MMORPG so it never ends

SodanTok

I think this is a perfect example how ridiculous is ZoS pricing the digital content in ESO

No. This is pretty normal pricing (however that makes you feel) for digital content. In all games.
Not to forget value of crowns is undervalued given sales and even more undervalued for long term subscribers.

Also, after ME3 and with those new information and trailers about MEA. Some cavern housing is actually not that much worse

Mashille

Doflamingo wrote: »

But Mass Effect Andromeda lasts for like 1 week and then there's nothing to do (story takes 4 days at most). ESO is an MMORPG so it never ends

Yes but this isn't a price for the game, it's a price for a virtual house with no real purpose.

ZiRM

OMG REALLY?!!

FleetwoodSmack

Doflamingo wrote: »

But Mass Effect Andromeda lasts for like 1 week and then there's nothing to do (story takes 4 days at most). ESO is an MMORPG so it never ends

I take it you haven't seen the state of the end game of ESO...

Cherryblossom

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Someone make an ESO addon that shows the equivalent price (in the currency of your choice) next to the crown price.

I'm sure I saw once that it had been done, but can't seem to find it now.

stevepdodson_ESO888

Doflamingo wrote: »

But Mass Effect Andromeda lasts for like 1 week and then there's nothing to do (story takes 4 days at most). ESO is an MMORPG so it never ends

and your "house" will last you forever and you still won't be able to do anything useful with it

Rohamad_Ali

It's very pricey . Too rich for my gaming budget .

Carbonised

In a world where some people pay US $60,000 per kilogram of rhino horn for consumption, the equivalent of biting your fingernails, nothing surprises me anymore.

It is disheartening and baffling that it even takes a side-by-side comparison like this to even get the point across that ESO prices are astronomically out of proportion with whatever trash they're selling.

Any semblence of fairness of product value vs. price asked has long ago been flushed down the toilet, and we have now gone over to the game of 'how high can you go'.

In what parallel universe does 105 Euros / 112 US Dollars even remotely resemble a microtransaction?
This is nothing but whale milking, and no one but a whale would even think twice about paying such an exorbitant amount of real money for nothing at all. I'm sure ZOS economics department have done their math well, however. It doesn't take more than a few whales every now and then to feed the whole village, after all.

It started long ago, Con Crates cemented the practise, and the price of exclusive homes is just a final proof that there is no low that ZOS won't stoop to in order to bleed out money from their player base.
The blatant lying "alternative fact" maneuver of the DLC/Chapter/ESO+ move was so surreal that even the Trump administration was impressed.

They're feeding you [snip], and some of you are even begging for another serving.

[Edit for censor bypass]

CasNation

And you know what? People are gonna buy it. And since people are gonna buy it, they will keep will making things like it. The only way for them to stop doing this kind if thing is for everyone to stop buying non-content oriented stuff from the crown store. But that won't happen unfortunately. Just look at crown crates. Everyone knows the odds suck, and yet you still see a bunch of people riding around on wild hunt mounts.

seaef

Sounds about right since staring at the cavern scenery is more exciting than most Bioware games.

baron.kreighteb17_ESO

I remember the time when they offered people money for logging into the game. That's how bad it was. Now they are on the wave of Morrowind comebacks and using it to catch as many fish as they can. Can't say I blame them, it's business afterall.

nine9six

Pricing is stupid. Don't buy it.

Maff

baron.kreighteb17_ESO wrote: »

I remember the time when they offered people money for logging into the game. That's how bad it was. Now they are on the wave of Morrowind comebacks and using it to catch as many fish as they can. Can't say I blame them, it's business afterall.

You're right, it's business. But it's also a game and games should be fun and entertaining. There's nothing fun or entertaining about being shown something you might like as an addition to the game then being charged an absurd amount of real money for it.
ZOS has completely lost touch with the concept of games being fun. The game is now nothing more than a means to make money. The fun side of it has taken a back seat. Homestead decorating fun is very short lived and shows how little effort goes into what we get for an update now. I can walk out my Riften house, straight into the city and oh look my house is exactly the same as that Inn.
So I refuse to spend on this game again. I will just enjoy the things I have already paid for.
Morrowind won't even come with an additional character slot so I can actually use the new class unless I pay AGAIN for an extra slot or delete a character I have put a lot of work into and still use. So I won't pay for Morrowind either. I'm not feeding the greedy.

Mic1007

Ok, now that's sad.

jircris11

just do what i do, wait for a crown sale when you can get the 5500 packs for 20USD XD

waterfairy

Their greed is serious...the price gouging, the gamble crates with bad rng chances, the upcoming $60 expansion, the lack of player appreciation.
I don't know of any other game that charged that much for an expansion. The Witcher 3 had an expansion with a new huge beautiful map and it was $20. GTA V adds all sorts of stuff for free to their online game and they have no subscription or crown store equivalent, only selling cash cards that you can earn in game...they give back to the players.

Turelus

Probably get a better story in the cavern as well. #notbitterME1fan

Huyen

Back in the early days you bought a game and got any update for free. But everyone has gotten more greedy ever since. We as customer expect to spend less money and get more stuff. Game-makers like ZOS expect us to spend more money for less content. We gotta find the middle here instead of pointing fingers.

Panda_iMunch

They probably done some calculations to determine what price is the best for profit, which is why these numbers are ridiculously high.

This is fine so long as this price gouging is only to cosmetic items, but I worry if the mentality was to leak over into other parts of the game. Although you could make a claim that is the case with Morrowind.

Turelus

Huyen wrote: »

Back in the early days you bought a game and got any update for free. But everyone has gotten more greedy ever since. We as customer expect to spend less money and get more stuff. Game-makers like ZOS expect us to spend more money for less content. We gotta find the middle here instead of pointing fingers.

I fully bet most money based decisions don't come from ZOS.

Zenimax Media have sampled the money cool aid from Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4.

Bigevilpeter

Then comes the ZOS fanboys and claims its fair pricing as ZOS needs to make money, Lol they are robbing you

souravami

Pretty sure this thread will be locked in an hour citing "discussion about another game is against forum rules" as a reason.
We all know the real reason, don't we?

STEVIL

Origin wrote: »

Let's see:
Earthtear Cavern
13000 Crowns not furnished = 90 EUR
16300 Crowns furnished = 105 EUR

ESO Crowns
5500 crowns = 34.99 EUR
3000 crowns = 20.99 EUR

Mass Effect Andromeda
Editions:
Standard - 59.90 EUR
Deluxe - 69.99 EUR
Super Deluxe - 89.99 EUR

So, Earthtear Cavern unfurnished is more expensive than both Mass Effect Andromeda Standard and Deluxe edition, being on par with Super Deluxe edition. The Earthtear Cavern furnished is more expensive than all the Mass Effect editions.

While Mass Effect Andromeda was in development for 5 years with a team of 200 developers in all 3 BioWare's studios (Wiki Mass Effect: Andromeda) and a huge budget (ME3 budget was around 40 millions - The state of AAA games - and MEA is bigger than ME3 and is using a different engine), the Earthtear Cavern is practically an empty space with no functionality and objects which you cannot interact with - that most likely took a couple of man days to make.

I think this is a perfect example how ridiculous is ZoS pricing the digital content in ESO. Even if we consider the case of a player having a subscription and using the crowns granted when the subscription is renewed, those crowns are not free since the subscription costs real money too.

What do you think about the prices and the value of the digital content available in ESO?

Earthsea cavern is more expensive than a 12-pack of diet doctor pepper cans, a delivered sausage-mushroom pizza or my Kong-Hidden Figures double feature - combined.

That is more relevant to me cuz i will be buying buy the drinks, the pizza and will see the movies but I wont be buying Andromeda.

i will get more hours of enjoyment out of whichever mega-house-mansion i do wind up purchasing (might be Earthsea but maybe not) than the three things i mention.

So, i am fine with the prices.

YFMV and that is fine.

Duiwel

Even if they made it 6k Crowns they would still have gotten a ton of money (perhaps more) and then people would feel less cheated / I think 6k crowns is a reasonable price.

Clearly whoever is in charge of the pricing is a Khajiit.

Origin

STEVIL wrote: »

Earthsea cavern is more expensive than a 12-pack of diet doctor pepper cans, a delivered sausage-mushroom pizza or my Kong-Hidden Figures double feature - combined.

That is more relevant to me cuz i will be buying buy the drinks, the pizza and will see the movies but I wont be buying Andromeda.

i will get more hours of enjoyment out of whichever mega-house-mansion i do wind up purchasing (might be Earthsea but maybe not) than the three things i mention.

So, i am fine with the prices.

YFMV and that is fine.

As you perfectly said, the topic here is not ME Andromeda, but the ridiculous prices and the lack of value for the digital content in ESO.
And I agree that it is also a personal decision how to spend your money and I don't question it.

Pallio

Thinking about this too, spend $100-$200 on ESO or something new.