Healer do your job

mr1sho
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How is it my fault the healer kept dying to final boss ? While I'm dpsing? If I'm dps the boss and killing mobs while throwing shards for the tank lul Worst healer I ever played with this man blames me for not dpsing then rages quit I'm a stamplar if you're a magplar you should be well equipped to heal I shouldn't be reviving my healer over and over anyway long story short he rage quits and we 3 man the boss and get it done

dungeon finder needs to be base on skill base or something sheesh playing with randoms it's a headache sometimes
Edited by mr1sho on March 12, 2017 12:35PM
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  • Molydeus
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    anyway long story short he rage quits and we 3 man the boss and get it done

    So the moral of the story is... dungeons in ESO don't need healers.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    How is it my fault the healer kept dying to final boss ? While I'm dpsing? If I'm dps the boss and killing mobs while throwing shards for the tank lul Worst healer I ever played with this man blames me for not dpsing then rages quit I'm a stamplar if you're a magplar you should be well equipped to heal I shouldn't be reviving my healer over and over anyway long story short he rage quits and we 3 man the boss and get it done

    dungeon finder needs to be base on skill base or something sheesh playing with randoms it's a headache sometimes

    healers are the most useless person in the group. Just slot lingering ritual/vigor and que as healer. Don't believe me? Just stand there, pop ritual/vigor. Wow.. it really is that easy to keep everyone alive.. how lame.
  • Shimmer
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    Maybe your healer was Standing In Stupid
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  • Judas Helviaryn
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    So.. Why does your little tantrum merit a new thread? Were your feelings hurt? I guarantee they wont be soothed on here.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    Sylance9 wrote: »
    Maybe your healer was Standing In Stupid

    I've noticed they have a tendency to stand way far in some back corner with the expectation that dps are going to run over there and kill any adds that attack them 24/7. First boss wgt = perfect example of this.
  • ManwithBeard9
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    So you needed another DPS to kill the boss. Obviously you're DPS wasn't up to par to get the boss down. Gear up, git gud, and try again.
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    I've noticed they have a tendency to stand way far in some back corner with the expectation that dps are going to run over there and kill any adds that attack them 24/7. First boss wgt = perfect example of this.

    well any good healer would know to run mobs to the tank...

    this is why im a tank and heal hybrid.
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    Sylance9 wrote: »

    well any good healer would know to run mobs to the tank...

    this is why im a tank and heal hybrid.

    No, they should run it to the dps, at least if experiemced vet group. Tank Works too. Either way if the healer doesn't want to get wrecked by mob aggro they should hang out near the spot all the mobs are dying in. At least they can spam healing springs on the whole group + themselves.

    I'm not defending OP. For all I know he plays a stam nb and spams swallow soul or wrecking blow. But what he says about healers is pretty consistent. They really don't bring anything the table unless they're giving raid buffs.
    Edited by Ep1kMalware on March 12, 2017 2:56AM
  • Euant
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    I'd rather there be people queueing as healer with the intent to heal, regardless of the end result, than people queueing as tank with the intent to dps. Talking about the many players I've seen who are cp300+ who queue as a tank and have no taunt and are squishy because they're, well, not a tank. Talking about both regular and veteran dungeons.
  • Abeille
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    So... Were you communicating in any way or did you just flame them until they couldn't take the abuse anymore and left?

    I'm asking because the tone of your post and the title makes it seems like it was an unpleasant situation for everybody.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Euant wrote: »
    I'd rather there be people queueing as healer with the intent to heal, regardless of the end result, than people queueing as tank with the intent to dps. Talking about the many players I've seen who are cp300+ who queue as a tank and have no taunt and are squishy because they're, well, not a tank. Talking about both regular and veteran dungeons.

    Same problem with “healers“. No, being a Beamplar with slotted BoL doesn't make you a healer especially not when you're only using it to heal yourself up.
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Euant wrote: »
    I'd rather there be people queueing as healer with the intent to heal, regardless of the end result, than people queueing as tank with the intent to dps. Talking about the many players I've seen who are cp300+ who queue as a tank and have no taunt and are squishy because they're, well, not a tank. Talking about both regular and veteran dungeons.

    Yeh, idc so long as they taunt; and not run the boss mobs all over the place. It sucks when you get some scrub with ice staff as a tank, then the guy runs all over tamriel with the boss and you can d 5% of your dps at best. At least you can kill the boss after they're dead.
  • Glurin
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    How is it my fault the healer kept dying to final boss ? While I'm dpsing? If I'm dps the boss and killing mobs while throwing shards for the tank lul Worst healer I ever played with this man blames me for not dpsing then rages quit I'm a stamplar if you're a magplar you should be well equipped to heal I shouldn't be reviving my healer over and over anyway long story short he rage quits and we 3 man the boss and get it done

    Maybe that's what he was actually upset about. He knew you could three man it and was planning to just sit back and watch, then collect the loot after the fight is over, but you kept dragging him back into the fight wanting him to at least do something to contribute. :p
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  • zaria
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    I've noticed they have a tendency to stand way far in some back corner with the expectation that dps are going to run over there and kill any adds that attack them 24/7. First boss wgt = perfect example of this.
    LOL, well one option to healer is to heal himself, its fairly easy for him after all.
    On the other hand it might be that the dps stand in red and did not kill adds so they take so much healing that healer is OOM then he take damage.
    An decent healer heals and do DoT on boss, groups of adds, add to resource management

    Did my first healing today, helped guild mates and we did not have healer so stepped in. Liked it.

    And yes you have fools who join as healer as they have an healing staff, same as all the bad tanks you can get.
    Had an tank with one sword, not an two handed one who would be sub-optimal but ok.
    On the back bar however, no he did not use that, as an 49, has not seen it outside of starting island :)
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Glurin wrote: »

    Maybe that's what he was actually upset about. He knew you could three man it and was planning to just sit back and watch, then collect the loot after the fight is over, but you kept dragging him back into the fight wanting him to at least do something to contribute. :p

    XD I think certain player in general do that. I normally don't rez unless it's fairly safe to do so. In normal dungeons you get hit so low that it wont kilk you to rez. But bosses have 200k hp anyway. I like to rez lowbies so they feel like a wanted part of the team. A cp400 that dies to everything isn't worth y tho
  • Woopy
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    Lol, this thread. I can't.
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  • Nerouyn
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    So.. Why does your little tantrum merit a new thread? Were your feelings hurt? I guarantee they wont be soothed on here.

    He came here to get some healing for his hurt...

    And you know I would, but he's talking *** so I'm quitting this thread.
  • Inhuman003
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    Yeah a lot of healers forget that the DPS also needs to him too lol this is not yellow Lantern rings where you also feed on anger
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    I love these threads.
  • abigfishy
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    That wasn't me because my healer isn't a Magplar but I had a similar situation from the other side. Party wiped and out Templar DPS unleashed a torrent of abuse at me. I tried to calmly suggest that next time we should try to take down the adds rather than letting them build up the whole battle until there were so many they were countless. I also tried to suggest that it would help if the DPS didn't stand in AOEs. We wiped again, again the entire blame went to the healer (me) not the DPS who refused to take down the adds who were doing a ton of damage. After that the DPS said healing is easy and you are a ****, I'll heal this time and you DPS. Naturally we wiped again but at least that time it was quick.

    Final abuse, "**** you ****, you can't **** heal (not true) and can't **** DPS (true)," followed by a rage quit.

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  • SaRuZ
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    It's DPS job to aggro ads and clear them ASAP. Good DPS won't even let ads touch healer. Tank aggros boss.

    Too many times I have seen **** dds trying to dps race the boss while letting ads run rampant, then get pissed because they're not getting heals while healer has to take down ads.

    I've Tanked & DPS, what I say to this is deeps, do YOUR job ;)
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    Random normal pug?

    No way this could have been their first time, because I remember when I was in 2nd grade we l2p each role so that in the future we could graduate with a degree from No Scrub Community College. Yeah, I hate it when people haven't already played through every dungeon in every game ever.
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  • kcrayner_ESO
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  • zaria
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    SaRuZ wrote: »
    It's DPS job to aggro ads and clear them ASAP. Good DPS won't even let ads touch healer. Tank aggros boss.

    Too many times I have seen **** dds trying to dps race the boss while letting ads run rampant, then get pissed because they're not getting heals while healer has to take down ads.

    I've Tanked & DPS, what I say to this is deeps, do YOUR job ;)
    Yes either adds get on healer and he has to focus on dps them and heal himself but more important the dps takes too much damage from adds themself. Unless you melt the adds, go for the same ones. not only do you take each down faster you also make healer job easier as he has two targets to heal not three.
    In most cases with lots of adds the boss can wait.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    I have only met 1 useless healer this year.
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    max_only wrote: »
    Random normal pug?

    No way this could have been their first time, because I remember when I was in 2nd grade we l2p each role so that in the future we could graduate with a degree from No Scrub Community College. Yeah, I hate it when people haven't already played through every dungeon in every game ever.
    its an shame it was dropped from the game :)
    Its an reason people cringes then they hear the light attack bow sound :)
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Runkorko
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    How is it my fault the healer kept dying to final boss ? While I'm dpsing? If I'm dps the boss and killing mobs while throwing shards for the tank lul Worst healer I ever played with this man blames me for not dpsing then rages quit I'm a stamplar if you're a magplar you should be well equipped to heal I shouldn't be reviving my healer over and over anyway long story short he rage quits and we 3 man the boss and get it done

    dungeon finder needs to be base on skill base or something sheesh playing with randoms it's a headache sometimes

    Many reasons to not GTFO a healer. One of them is after this /even if you runt in forums/ he and not only he may put you on ignore... Know this that he can play without 1 dps, but dps cant play without healer. No matter do they suck or not - respect them. They are there to heal YOU not to show their duck is bigger than others by pushing mindlesly dps....
    Question : if adds are dead and not agroing the healer, HOW he die? M ?
    healers are the most useless person in the group.

    I wont even coment this ....

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    And TBH dont know why forum GM dont lock this yet?
    And maybe ban the GTFO user for a week, to help him chill.... ?!?
    Edited by Runkorko on March 12, 2017 5:11AM
  • mr1sho
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    So you needed another DPS to kill the boss. Obviously you're DPS wasn't up to par to get the boss down. Gear up, git gud, and try again.

    Actually my dps was fine like I say we 3 man it after the healer rage quit maybe he doesn't know how to heal correctly either way as dps my job is taking down the boss hell I was throwing shards with my limited magicka to our tank so he can keep Agro on the boss they healer should be doing that if your healer is the one constantly dying you have a bad healer
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  • mr1sho
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    Abeille wrote: »
    So... Were you communicating in any way or did you just flame them until they couldn't take the abuse anymore and left?

    I'm asking because the tone of your post and the title makes it seems like it was an unpleasant situation for everybody.

    He was the one being pissy everyone else was cool we 3 man it after he rage quit
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  • austinwalter87ub17_ESO
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    Your job is whatever needs to be done to achieve victory. If that requires you rezzing to save the day. That is what you do. Your little DPS icon doesn't exempt you from acting in the most beneficial matter necessary to succeed.
    Edited by austinwalter87ub17_ESO on March 12, 2017 5:16AM
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