PvP - Magicka Templar Builds

psychotic13

My other 4 builds are geared and golded out, so I'm left with deciding what to do with my Templar before I can just PvP without having to think about finishing builds and farming pieces.

Currently I'm using x5 Soulshine x5 Lich and x2 Skoria and I'm not a fan to be honest.

1) Light Armor vs Heavy Armor?
2) SPC works on yourself, so would it be a decent offensive set to use?
3) I'm using DW but can't decide between SnB/Resto/Destro for my secondary weapon
4) Do you use shields? (Or only if your going light)

Appreciate feedback, need to finish off my final character and I'm not the most experienced Templar, are there any other sets that work well with them?

xboxone1Q

Julinous/grothdar, it's what I run and I main a Templar. Only have 1 guy and that's him. I get 36k Magic and 20k health. It hits like a truck :0

Lexxypwns

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Reefo

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

Lexxypwns

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

Troll King is good on vamp magplar builds as well, but if you can get away with dropping vamp then you can use it like stam builds do and become godly tanky, that's genius and lets you get away with soulshine instead of julianos since you don't need a set that also scales your healing up. I like that a lot.

I'm curious about lich over alchemist on back bar. Personally, I think magplar sustain is insane and I feel like I'd probably waste a lot of the lich regen(I also use mist form, which has terrible synergy with lich, I admit), I personally stack 2 or even 3 aggressive sets on magplar to get enough damage to punish mistakes. And it seems like if you want to run a back bar 5pc Alchemist would be preferable.

Do you find you can get kills without ult dependence?

psychotic13

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Heavy or light?

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

I tried that exact set up, I found my regen to be atrocious, that's why I'm considering a light Armor set up. I see people using BSW too and proc'ing it from vampire bane?

Reefo

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

Troll King is good on vamp magplar builds as well, but if you can get away with dropping vamp then you can use it like stam builds do and become godly tanky, that's genius and lets you get away with soulshine instead of julianos since you don't need a set that also scales your healing up. I like that a lot.

I'm curious about lich over alchemist on back bar. Personally, I think magplar sustain is insane and I feel like I'd probably waste a lot of the lich regen(I also use mist form, which has terrible synergy with lich, I admit), I personally stack 2 or even 3 aggressive sets on magplar to get enough damage to punish mistakes. And it seems like if you want to run a back bar 5pc Alchemist would be preferable.

Do you find you can get kills without ult dependence?

Yes I can get kills without ultimate dependence, sweeps hit very hard and the reason I get kills is coz I don't use toppling charge, I swapped it for javelin and I do damage then I cc and beam. I found the cc from toppling charge to give me advantage at a less than opportune moment.

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Heavy or light?

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

I tried that exact set up, I found my regen to be atrocious, that's why I'm considering a light Armor set up. I see people using BSW too and proc'ing it from vampire bane?

My sustain is fine coz I use a pot with lich proc, I use honour the dead not breath of life, and I'm a Breton with max CP and 2 light pieces, 5-2 not 5-1-1.

This is a video, granted its against noobs but I'm not showing my skill just the tankiness and damage. Sweep through destro ultimate...

https://youtu.be/H3gx0jl5hDg

No gap closer because range favours me a lot. I beat flawless conquerer sorcs in duels without sweeping once.

Lexxypwns

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Heavy or light?

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

I tried that exact set up, I found my regen to be atrocious, that's why I'm considering a light Armor set up. I see people using BSW too and proc'ing it from vampire bane?

Heavy.

As for sustain, channeled focus + minor magika steal(radiant aura, elemental susceptibility) and a regen glyph or two should be enough sustain, just keep a dot up at all times.

You can also use witchmothers and run prismatic glyphs on large pieces

Erynyes

i use warlock instead of lich on my 1hShield bar, synergize better with my mist form addiction, and that burst of 9k magicka is all i need between pot cooldown

Reefo

Erynyes wrote: »

i use warlock instead of lich on my 1hShield bar, synergize better with my mist form addiction, and that burst of 9k magicka is all i need between pot cooldown

Are you in light armor?

Lexxypwns

Erynyes wrote: »

i use warlock instead of lich on my 1hShield bar, synergize better with my mist form addiction, and that burst of 9k magicka is all i need between pot cooldown

There's a very strong case to be made for warlock as a sustain set for anyone using mist form often. Nothing worse than seeing that lich proc as soon as you mist form and having to make that choice...

xboxone1Q

Heavy julinous and heavy grothdar you can't lose with that also be a high elf. Forgot to say that earlier.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

xboxone1Q wrote: »

Heavy julinous and heavy grothdar you can't lose with that also be a high elf. Forgot to say that earlier.

Yup. I go heavy Julianos with 1 grothdar for magic and some other monster shoulder for health on my Breton, but yeah ... you're all over it. Paring this with Willpower jewelry and 2 Magus pieces leaves me with almost 48k magic and over 30k in each resist.

psychotic13

Could SPC be used as an offensive set do you think? It works on yourself and as a Templar you have heals going off all the time..?

Jawasa

Yeah spc should work i use it in pve in group and solo in openworld it's almost upp all the time. Bit more down time in pvp if you take heavy dmg i guess but Def worth it if you run in a group.

Erynyes

Reefo wrote: »

Erynyes wrote: »

i use warlock instead of lich on my 1hShield bar, synergize better with my mist form addiction, and that burst of 9k magicka is all i need between pot cooldown

Are you in light armor?

nope, heavy, 5-1-1, i run with 2 skoria, warlock and either rattlecage or soulshine and 2 willpower

Jawasa

Ok so today i took out my retired magicka templar and i gotta say my old set up still seems to work. I had 5 fasalla, 5 transmutation (snb backbar), 2 willpower swords and whatever monster set you want. All tristat runes and thife mundus. For group play switch willpower for master or msa resto.

cschwingeb14_ESO

Seems like magicka furnace would be a better choice for people running mist more that once a minute. The magicka proc is 8k every 30 sec, rather than 9k a minute for warlock

7k magicka a minute isn't as much as you get back from the 258 warlock regen, but the spell damage and resist set bonuses are pretty good instead

bubbygink

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

Seems like magicka furnace would be a better choice for people running mist more that once a minute. The magicka proc is 8k every 30 sec, rather than 9k a minute for warlock

7k magicka a minute isn't as much as you get back from the 258 warlock regen, but the spell damage and resist set bonuses are pretty good instead

The issue with magicka furnace is that it requires a melee attack. You are in trouble if you're fighting a magblade or magsorc. So the regen can be a bit unreliable. If only the set was changed to "when you take damage" instead I think it would be much more viable.

Erynyes

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

Seems like magicka furnace would be a better choice for people running mist more that once a minute. The magicka proc is 8k every 30 sec, rather than 9k a minute for warlock

7k magicka a minute isn't as much as you get back from the 258 warlock regen, but the spell damage and resist set bonuses are pretty good instead

it's an option yes, but warlock as a sustain set gives me 2 magicka recovery bonus when i'm not mist forming, i'm already over cap resist for spell resistance and i don't really need that spell damage bonus that furnace gives either. Would not work for me, but still an option

Kidz_BeAstx

If you want to make a good Mageplar build that is kind of cancerous that I suggest running 5 Julionos, 5 Lich on the jewlrey and on the sword and board bar, and 2pc Grothdar, last but not least make sure you have destruction staff for the destro ult, because otherwise if you don't then you are just gimping yourself. Also use the thief because you don't get any crit in heavy. You can use any destro, however maelstrom is bis and it does help out a lot because you can use a poison instead of spell damage enchantment on weapons, and also make sure that you use a lightning staff because it increases your aoe damage done.

Kidz_BeAstx

@Reefo It figures you would tbag a bunch of lower level AD players because you are EP.

Reefo

@Kidz_BeAstx lol I tbag coz it's just one of me and 7 of them camping on the keep, I try to make them come down to play. I have magsorc AD though

Kidz_BeAstx

@Reefo Still though, I don't tbag even if they tbagged me, like ever.

Mayrael

Reefo wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

Troll King is good on vamp magplar builds as well, but if you can get away with dropping vamp then you can use it like stam builds do and become godly tanky, that's genius and lets you get away with soulshine instead of julianos since you don't need a set that also scales your healing up. I like that a lot.

I'm curious about lich over alchemist on back bar. Personally, I think magplar sustain is insane and I feel like I'd probably waste a lot of the lich regen(I also use mist form, which has terrible synergy with lich, I admit), I personally stack 2 or even 3 aggressive sets on magplar to get enough damage to punish mistakes. And it seems like if you want to run a back bar 5pc Alchemist would be preferable.

Do you find you can get kills without ult dependence?

Yes I can get kills without ultimate dependence, sweeps hit very hard and the reason I get kills is coz I don't use toppling charge, I swapped it for javelin and I do damage then I cc and beam. I found the cc from toppling charge to give me advantage at a less than opportune moment.

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Heavy or light?

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

I tried that exact set up, I found my regen to be atrocious, that's why I'm considering a light Armor set up. I see people using BSW too and proc'ing it from vampire bane?

My sustain is fine coz I use a pot with lich proc, I use honour the dead not breath of life, and I'm a Breton with max CP and 2 light pieces, 5-2 not 5-1-1.

This is a video, granted its against noobs but I'm not showing my skill just the tankiness and damage. Sweep through destro ultimate...

https://youtu.be/H3gx0jl5hDg

No gap closer because range favours me a lot. I beat flawless conquerer sorcs in duels without sweeping once.

OMG where did you found those potatoes? Later "players" like them are crying for nerfs because someone is op... Nevertheless, well played sir

Jawasa

Leta theory craft more! After some dueling i'm starting to think that high Max magica is the way to go atleast for group play. The stronger power of light the better. Saw some1 hitting 10k pol in 3v3 duels in the PC EU group dueling guild.

Still want some sustain. What about spc and suducer. Then i think i will see if slimecraw or two Max magica monster is best.

Reefo

Jawasa wrote: »

Leta theory craft more! After some dueling i'm starting to think that high Max magica is the way to go atleast for group play. The stronger power of light the better. Saw some1 hitting 10k pol in 3v3 duels in the PC EU group dueling guild.

Still want some sustain. What about spc and suducer. Then i think i will see if slimecraw or two Max magica monster is best.

I run a max magicka build, how much u looking at getting? I get 37k + depending on undaunted set

Mayrael wrote: »

Reefo wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

Troll King is good on vamp magplar builds as well, but if you can get away with dropping vamp then you can use it like stam builds do and become godly tanky, that's genius and lets you get away with soulshine instead of julianos since you don't need a set that also scales your healing up. I like that a lot.

I'm curious about lich over alchemist on back bar. Personally, I think magplar sustain is insane and I feel like I'd probably waste a lot of the lich regen(I also use mist form, which has terrible synergy with lich, I admit), I personally stack 2 or even 3 aggressive sets on magplar to get enough damage to punish mistakes. And it seems like if you want to run a back bar 5pc Alchemist would be preferable.

Do you find you can get kills without ult dependence?

Yes I can get kills without ultimate dependence, sweeps hit very hard and the reason I get kills is coz I don't use toppling charge, I swapped it for javelin and I do damage then I cc and beam. I found the cc from toppling charge to give me advantage at a less than opportune moment.

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Heavy or light?

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

I tried that exact set up, I found my regen to be atrocious, that's why I'm considering a light Armor set up. I see people using BSW too and proc'ing it from vampire bane?

My sustain is fine coz I use a pot with lich proc, I use honour the dead not breath of life, and I'm a Breton with max CP and 2 light pieces, 5-2 not 5-1-1.

This is a video, granted its against noobs but I'm not showing my skill just the tankiness and damage. Sweep through destro ultimate...

https://youtu.be/H3gx0jl5hDg

No gap closer because range favours me a lot. I beat flawless conquerer sorcs in duels without sweeping once.

OMG where did you found those potatoes? Later "players" like them are crying for nerfs because someone is op... Nevertheless, well played sir

PS4 EU thornblade

Reefo

Double post removed

Jawasa

@Reefo i also get about 37k on My fasalla and transmutation build with two willpower on front bar with a non magicka monster set. I'm gonna do some pol testning tomorrow.

a1i3nz

For pvp I've been running heavy 5-1-1 Kags/Soulshine/Chudan
38k magicka
25k health
14k stamina

2400 spell damage unbuffed
1500 recovery front bar, 1800 back (s&b transmutation)

Reason I'm going Chudan besides the tankiness it gives is because it opens a spot where I had rune focus and I can slot Radiant Aura which is going to return a lot of magicka and increase all your recovery. Basically throw a ground aoe like retribution and spam all day. Another monster set to try might be Slimecraw but I'm pretty sure the first bonus is stam recovery Of course as magicka templar you can't really pick a wrong monster set ><

Another idea I had was to do Rattlecage (which I had but prefers keeping Kags and entropy) which would open another spot (entropy) and then you would never have to buff.

Might try that today.

EldritchPenguin

Reefo wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

Troll King is good on vamp magplar builds as well, but if you can get away with dropping vamp then you can use it like stam builds do and become godly tanky, that's genius and lets you get away with soulshine instead of julianos since you don't need a set that also scales your healing up. I like that a lot.

I'm curious about lich over alchemist on back bar. Personally, I think magplar sustain is insane and I feel like I'd probably waste a lot of the lich regen(I also use mist form, which has terrible synergy with lich, I admit), I personally stack 2 or even 3 aggressive sets on magplar to get enough damage to punish mistakes. And it seems like if you want to run a back bar 5pc Alchemist would be preferable.

Do you find you can get kills without ult dependence?

Yes I can get kills without ultimate dependence, sweeps hit very hard and the reason I get kills is coz I don't use toppling charge, I swapped it for javelin and I do damage then I cc and beam. I found the cc from toppling charge to give me advantage at a less than opportune moment.

psychotic13 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I like 5 spinners 5 julianos 2slimecraw/skoria/Bloodspawn

Heavy or light?

Reefo wrote: »

2x troll king
5x soul shine (dw bar)
5x lich (SnB bar)
2x willpower

i am a fan, im being very honest. tanky AF, hit hard AF, i have a prob with range builds so i put reflect, i droped vampire and changed to breton.

soul assault tooltip 83-85k most of the time.

I tried that exact set up, I found my regen to be atrocious, that's why I'm considering a light Armor set up. I see people using BSW too and proc'ing it from vampire bane?

My sustain is fine coz I use a pot with lich proc, I use honour the dead not breath of life, and I'm a Breton with max CP and 2 light pieces, 5-2 not 5-1-1.

This is a video, granted its against noobs but I'm not showing my skill just the tankiness and damage. Sweep through destro ultimate...

https://youtu.be/H3gx0jl5hDg

No gap closer because range favours me a lot. I beat flawless conquerer sorcs in duels without sweeping once.

Those poor, poor potatoes. You almost feel sorry for them. xD

I am definitely using your build. Just as soon as I can farm that Lich S&B. Not excited about that, but you gotta do what you gotta do. >.>

Thank you for sharing it.