Any self healing for stamblade?

Shroom

Hey, so I'm an assassination stamblade but find I die a lot because I don't have any self heals. I was wondering if there's any self-heal abilities that I have? Thanks!

theher0not

as far as I know there are only 2 stamina healing skills in the game: Vigor (alliance war) and Momentum (2h weapon).

Vigor has the benefit of being AoE and not requiering a specific weapon, but it is expensive compared to momentum. Momentum requiers a 2h, but it will give you a damage buff and heal you.


I'd also recomend you using the NB reduce spell damage shield and morph it so it reduces physical dgm too.

Clarkieson

killers blade, reapers mark

MCBIZZLE300

Vigor, Vigor and more Vigor. And rally on the side but its heal over time.

idk

Shroom wrote: »

Hey, so I'm an assassination stamblade but find I die a lot because I don't have any self heals. I was wondering if there's any self-heal abilities that I have? Thanks!

Vigor and the 2H skill that applies a HoT. One morph provides a more solid heal at the end. Also DW has two means for healing depending on morphs chosen though it lowers damage done by the skills a small amount.

waitwhat

All of the above, with focus on getting those kills with killer's blade and reaper's mark (you should probably go for piercing mark though).

Beyond that, focus on stealth and the shadow passive for dmg reduction.

Also remember to roll dodge. We can't do it forever, but it's really helpful as a dps in vet content when you need to get out of the bosses' AoEs that would otherwise one-shot you.

Kneighbors

Honestly, I was always thinking vigor is the thing. Then I realised that it's not really good for many reasons, like it reduces your dps, takes one cool slot and not really effective.

So today I use this to sustain:
1) Dodge. Roll out of AoE's fast. Remeber, NB is the most squishy class.
2) Reaping Mark on enemies all the time. Take a second to choose enemy who you think will die first. Like if there's Atronaught, Mage and Rat running towards you, you mark Rat first, then when it dies Mage, and then Atro.
3) If your healer is weak in PvE before difficult fights - Undaunted Altar is the thing. It will heal ya really well. Specially now after it was boosted with Homestead patch.
4) Health pots. They are cheap and easy to get, you can really use them alot.
5) Soul Tether ultimate. Well that one is really good and simply gives you a ticket to jump in any mob crowd and get out alive.

Slot Soul Harvest on main bar to gain really fast ultimate to use Soul Tether more.
Use Aura\Evade in PvP.


Edit: I know many will say VIGOR VIGOR VIGOR. This is PvP skill for a reason. It's really only effective and must be sloted in PvP. In PvE you don't slot active heals as DD. Only the uber noobs do so. You have healer for active heals.

psychotic13

NB heals require you to kill to get the heal

Lynx7386

Vigor
Rally
reapers mark
Killers blade
Blood craze
Blood thirst

MakoFore

stamblade dosent function like other stam classes- you havent got major/minor mending so you can't exactly heal thru the damage and be a rough and tumble dude like the other classes, you gotta fight like a night blade- that is cloak, break lOS and evade to mitigate damage. it takes an approach that not everyone can master. I've seen some top streamers, dominant pvp players in stamina, absolutely master a class and smash a campaign, then try stamblade and struggle mightily. not for everyone- but once u can get it down- a devastating class.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

Danksta

mcb123 wrote: »

Vigor, Vigor and more Vigor. And rally on the side but its heal over time.

If you think Rally is just a HoT you're doing it wrong. When you first cast it it gives a HoT but when you cast it again it gives you a burst heal. The closer it is to the end of it's duration, the bigger the heal gets. When it gets near the end of it's duration Rally can heal you to full health.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

In the dual wield tree there are also the morphs for flurry, bloodthirst it heals on damage done. And the morph for twin strikes blood craze that adds a healing dot.

If you are a bow user there is the morph of scatter shot draining shot which heals some after the effect ends.

As a nightblade in class you have Killers blade which heals 20% of your health if a mob dies within 2 seconds of having it used on them. It is also the classes execute so you should be using this to finish mobs. It is a great way to stay health in fights with mutiple little fellas that need finished off.

And also mark target. While it does no damage itself if a target dies while they have it on them you restore 40% of your health.

Killers blade and mark target alone can keep you alive in fights with more then one target. As long as you can keep on one target get it killed and move on fairly quickly.

These are all useful. But as said above vigor from the assault line in pvp is the best stam heal in the game and really helps on heavy hitters. But with some or all of these others stacked up most content shouldnt be to bad for you if you are having problems staying alive.

Edits hehe i type so slow everyone beat me to it! Poor me.

Seraphayel

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

That's not really true. I thought the same until I finally tested that skill. The healing amount is pretty small and won't keep you alive against 3 or more enemies when you solely rely on that.

Lynx7386

Personally I run 2h + dw on my stamblade. I stack rally, vigor, and blood craze and use blood thirst in situations where I'm taking heavy damage. Can swap back to 2h and hit rally again for a big burst heal if needed.

Ep1kMalware

Shroom wrote: »

Hey, so I'm an assassination stamblade but find I die a lot because I don't have any self heals. I was wondering if there's any self-heal abilities that I have? Thanks!

Uhm. Soul tether, vigor, rally, blood craze, rend, bloodlust,.. bow has one. Seriously dude you could have just hit pause. >.>

Ep1kMalware

Seraphayel wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

That's not really true. I thought the same until I finally tested that skill. The healing amount is pretty small and won't keep you alive against 3 or more enemies when you solely rely on that.

Yeh dude blood thirst is weak AF compared to vigor, rend, or rally.

KerinKor

Seraphayel wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

That's not really true. I thought the same until I finally tested that skill. The healing amount is pretty small and won't keep you alive against 3 or more enemies when you solely rely on that.

Then use Agony or its morph to reduce the numbers, Mark on the mobs as you kill each one and with Bloodthirst you come out the other side at full health.

Seraphayel

I am already using a Hybrid build focused on Stamina and some points in Magicka, 5p heavy and 2p light, mixed with NB Siphoning skills and DW heals. Works pretty good for me.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

KerinKor wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

That's not really true. I thought the same until I finally tested that skill. The healing amount is pretty small and won't keep you alive against 3 or more enemies when you solely rely on that.

Then use Agony or its morph to reduce the numbers, Mark on the mobs as you kill each one and with Bloodthirst you come out the other side at full health.

all those work in concert. good advice.

i don't know about you, but my blood thirst crits for over 10k so that is a 6k+ heal, depending on your cp. even non crits are 6k, which is 4k ticks of healing, more then enough to overcome anything in open world pve, which it sounds like this person would be.

Shroom

Well, I'm a dual wield and bloodthirst is decent but I don't think it's enough tbh. So how do I get vigor? And can I use it outside of pvp? Sorry I"m pretty, just trying to understand things better.

Shroom

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Shroom wrote: »

Hey, so I'm an assassination stamblade but find I die a lot because I don't have any self heals. I was wondering if there's any self-heal abilities that I have? Thanks!

Uhm. Soul tether, vigor, rally, blood craze, rend, bloodlust,.. bow has one. Seriously dude you could have just hit pause. >.>

Are those all morphs?

Dantaria

Shroom wrote: »

Well, I'm a dual wield and bloodthirst is decent but I don't think it's enough tbh. So how do I get vigor? And can I use it outside of pvp? Sorry I"m pretty, just trying to understand things better.

Yes, you totally can use it outside PvP! That's the whole point

The only problem is that you can't get it without PvPing. Which can be overwhelming, 'cause it's entirely new world and what works in PvE prob wouldn't work in PvP.

What you need to do is: go into Alliance War tab (L key in defaults), choose any campaign and go in. I would suggest entering campaign as a Guest, not Home. You will have issues with changing it if you set it as Home in the future (and who knows... maybe you would like pvping and would want to join your friends in it So stick with Guest for now).

When you enter Cyrodiil through Alliance War tab, you'll get new skill line "Assault". You will need to gring Alliance Points to make it to 5th rang (that's where Vigor will be unlocked).

The easisest way to do so - if you, for now, aren't interesting in PvP - is to type "LFG" (looking for group) in chat once you get to Cyro. Chances are you'll get an invite to group straight ahead. From there - do what you can. Heal/Buff your allies, resurrect them, shoot some people with a bow... You'll figure it out

Shroom

Dantaria wrote: »

Shroom wrote: »

Well, I'm a dual wield and bloodthirst is decent but I don't think it's enough tbh. So how do I get vigor? And can I use it outside of pvp? Sorry I"m pretty, just trying to understand things better.

Yes, you totally can use it outside PvP! That's the whole point

The only problem is that you can't get it without PvPing. Which can be overwhelming, 'cause it's entirely new world and what works in PvE prob wouldn't work in PvP.

What you need to do is: go into Alliance War tab (L key in defaults), choose any campaign and go in. I would suggest entering campaign as a Guest, not Home. You will have issues with changing it if you set it as Home in the future (and who knows... maybe you would like pvping and would want to join your friends in it So stick with Guest for now).

When you enter Cyrodiil through Alliance War tab, you'll get new skill line "Assault". You will need to gring Alliance Points to make it to 5th rang (that's where Vigor will be unlocked).

The easisest way to do so - if you, for now, aren't interesting in PvP - is to type "LFG" (looking for group) in chat once you get to Cyro. Chances are you'll get an invite to group straight ahead. From there - do what you can. Heal/Buff your allies, resurrect them, shoot some people with a bow... You'll figure it out

Dantaria wrote: »

Shroom wrote: »

Well, I'm a dual wield and bloodthirst is decent but I don't think it's enough tbh. So how do I get vigor? And can I use it outside of pvp? Sorry I"m pretty, just trying to understand things better.

Yes, you totally can use it outside PvP! That's the whole point

The only problem is that you can't get it without PvPing. Which can be overwhelming, 'cause it's entirely new world and what works in PvE prob wouldn't work in PvP.

What you need to do is: go into Alliance War tab (L key in defaults), choose any campaign and go in. I would suggest entering campaign as a Guest, not Home. You will have issues with changing it if you set it as Home in the future (and who knows... maybe you would like pvping and would want to join your friends in it So stick with Guest for now).

When you enter Cyrodiil through Alliance War tab, you'll get new skill line "Assault". You will need to gring Alliance Points to make it to 5th rang (that's where Vigor will be unlocked).

The easisest way to do so - if you, for now, aren't interesting in PvP - is to type "LFG" (looking for group) in chat once you get to Cyro. Chances are you'll get an invite to group straight ahead. From there - do what you can. Heal/Buff your allies, resurrect them, shoot some people with a bow... You'll figure it out

Thanks! I'm currently lvl 2 in alliance. I usually stick with people and just gank up on people so I get xp! Thanks a lot!

Koensol

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

This. Combined with rally and blood craze, this will give you crazy sustain. Slap on some %healing received bonusses from CP and you are golden.

EvilCroc

Vigor has holy-yellow visuals. Only templars allowed to use it.
No red or black healing skills for stamblade. So no, sorry,
Killer's blade, maybe. But it needs to make killing blow.

Koensol

Shroom wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Shroom wrote: »

Hey, so I'm an assassination stamblade but find I die a lot because I don't have any self heals. I was wondering if there's any self-heal abilities that I have? Thanks!

Uhm. Soul tether, vigor, rally, blood craze, rend, bloodlust,.. bow has one. Seriously dude you could have just hit pause. >.>

Are those all morphs?

eso-skills.com for quick access to all skills.

Enslaved

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Two words. BLOOD THIRST. Healing while damage. Literally the first skill in dual wield will keep you alive like nothing else. No need to get vigor, it is really that strong.

Pretty much this. You need to use it, its the only way to play sNB as solo or in pug. But vigor is still needed for aoe battles.

TheUrbanWizard

Dodge roll is your friend. Caress it, love it and eventually marry it and it'll never let you down.

Keep up the your levels of the precious green stuff with one of the best utility skills there is, Siphoning Attacks.

bowmanz607

rally and vigor

bowmanz607

EvilCroc wrote: »

Vigor has holy-yellow visuals. Only templars allowed to use it.
No red or black healing skills for stamblade. So no, sorry,
Killer's blade, maybe. But it needs to make killing blow.

dont technically need killing blow. target just needs to die within 2 seconds of its use.