If it's bad etiquette to do story on dungeons.....

TeamGizzy

and there very little if any videos on dungeon dialogue ( all if it)

How do we find out the stories of these dungeons ??

Any suggestions ?

is it ok to do story in the dungeons? I just feel bad

phantom3538

Just tell your group when you get in. Every group I've been in (several with multiple 600+ CP people) have been totally understanding.

MLGProPlayer

My suggestion:

Do the normal versions of the dungeons on your own when you're a high enough level (most, if not all, are soloable).

For those that aren't, either find a group to do them with slowly, or watch a slow playthrough on Youtube.

VaxtinTheWolf

Not the ones i get into, vetern wise. Sometimes normal dungeon groups wait for a very short time though. But in verern content, if I happen to have the quest, someone will just spam through the dialogue while im trying to read so I miss out anyway. I believe it's best to create a group specifically stating the story has some kind of priority.

Dread_Viking

phantom3538 wrote: »

Just tell your group when you get in. Every group I've been in (several with multiple 600+ CP people) have been totally understanding.

what he is saying

Avran_Sylt

And if you really want to, try to find some RPers to roleplay the dungeon. could be even more interesting.

redspecter23

In my opinion, dungeon stories should be designed knowing that players will generally skip it, especially after the first time. I'm not saying to remove it altogether, but extremely lengthy dialogue should be trimmed down. Monologues should be kept to an absolute minimum, especially when the dungeon is complete as groups tend to disband quickly which leads to people missing the rewards. Long immersive stories are great for single player sections of the game but it just doesn't mix with the common playstyle for dungeon content which by design is meant to be farmed repeatedly for gear after you've done it once.

Tabbycat

Pre-form your own group.

If you are a member of a casual guild you might suggest setting up a dungeon night for it.

MrDenimChicken

This is something I just don't understand in MMO's: quests in group dungeons that aren't live action that require the whole group to see whats going on.

Vapirko

I have no problem if someone wants to do the quest, we've all been there. Ill gladly wait around at the end for them to finish, as many people have done for me. If Im doing the quest I generally try to read through the dialogue quickly so as not to make people wait who are on a random or just grinding pledges. But I guess Ive never been one to really care much about all the dialogue.

disintegr8

I'd suggest not using dungeon finder if you want to run through the dungeon story lines. Find a guild or some friends to run them with and take your time. My friend and I will often 2 man dungeons so we can do what we want.

Most people using dungeon finder are not interested in waiting around. We are both 600+ cp and we still stop and loot every chest and heavy sack we find - let the others run ahead if they want. Wed don't go slow to look every where for them but we will not run past them if we have seen them.

Ep1kMalware

TeamGizzy wrote: »

and there very little if any videos on dungeon dialogue ( all if it)

How do we find out the stories of these dungeons ??

Any suggestions ?

is it ok to do story in the dungeons? I just feel bad

It can be. Take myself for example. I want to run thru dungeons quickly because I'm either farming or running randos for whatever purpose. But if someone speaks up that they're doing a quest I don't mind helping them out with that. Just speak up right away.

Narvuntien

They are not soloable by a stamNB set up for PVP

I need to do the story if you are just going to rush through you'll have to do them without me.

Also some of these dungeons I want jewellery, it is inefficient for me to do the normal and then do the vet when I could just do the vet.

Ep1kMalware

Idk, I think alot of players are doing dungeons to grind skills/gear and are in a hurry. I think a lot of people will be willing to accomodate your questing as long as you're open about it from the beginning. Otherwise they might just think you're wandering off or going afk all the time.

chris25602

Honestly I don't even attempt to understand/read/comprehend i just mash click through and catch up with the others

hmsdragonfly

TeamGizzy wrote: »

and there very little if any videos on dungeon dialogue ( all if it)

How do we find out the stories of these dungeons ??

Any suggestions ?

is it ok to do story in the dungeons? I just feel bad

If you are good you can solo normal dungeons. If not, get some guidies to do it with you and return the favour later.

SlayerSyrena

Crypt of Hearts has an amazing story. Props to the writer on that one.

glitchmaster999

Never apologise for doing the story. It adds 1 minute if that to dungeon timers.... Its 1 minute to get you a skill point and potentially a good item for a set.

TheUrbanWizard

I remember when I ran vCoA with then max cp 501s as a low cp player and the host disbanded after last boss as I was pathetically running down the tunnel to complete the quest. I was gutted to miss the skill point lol.
I even explained that I hadn't completed the quest at the starr and wasn't taking my time with dialogue.
Ever since then if I see a player talking to npcs they probably haven't got the sp so I'll wait, its like an extra 2 mins.

captainwolfos

A story mode solo version of the dungeon, like in most SWTOR flashpoints.

I've wanted something like that since the level scaling patch.

Fragkat

it isn't bad form at all. You paid for your game, an you pay for your time spent. If you want to see the story, then you see story, simple as that really.

raglau

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

Not the ones i get into, vetern wise. Sometimes normal dungeon groups wait for a very short time though. But in verern content, if I happen to have the quest, someone will just spam through the dialogue while im trying to read so I miss out anyway. I believe it's best to create a group specifically stating the story has some kind of priority.

I will always let someone on a normal dungeon do the story if they ask, including reading everything they need to and me waiting with them at the end to close the quest. Veteran, the issue should not arise because people should have completed the story when they did the dungeon in normal mode. If players have not done the dungeon in normal mode first, well they are just part of a bigger problem anyway, so people will not tend to have much patience with them.

By veteran we're usually grinding so just want to get the experience over with as quickly as possible, after all ESO dungeons are hardly the most interesting of things, mechanically speaking that is, some of the writing is very good.

Drasn

TeamGizzy wrote: »

and there very little if any videos on dungeon dialogue ( all if it)

How do we find out the stories of these dungeons ??

Any suggestions ?

is it ok to do story in the dungeons? I just feel bad

Just make a tank and leisurely stroll through at your own pace, you only need to be there for the boss fights anyway.

FloppyTouch

Dont do pugs, run with guild or friends that want to listen to the story if you are doing a pug group then yes it's not wise to sit there wasting other people's time.

Lore_lai

I'd totally let anyone listen to all the dialogue they want to in any dungeon/trial.

I'm an uber lore-nerd and I love knowing the stories.
I've ran the dungeons and trials multiple times, but if I would run a grp with someone asking to listen to the quest, then I'd have no issues with it.
It still pains me that I've ran vMAW sooooo many times yet I never had any opportunity to listen to the story or the beautiful song the devs created for Adara'hai.

runagate

I'll always be happy to let people experience the stories in dungeons. Simply ask. If you're in a dungeon with people who won't do this, then you have different goals... make friends, go with them. There's plenty of nice people around if you look.

But the entitled people who say "you paid for your game it's your right" should be permanently banned, their children taken away, and socially ostracized by everyone who knows them so that they die alone.

The idea that you are somehow entitled to waste 3 other people's time who don't want to do what you so (or 11 other people for those who feel the need to loot the containers that contain exactly the same items as every solo delve in the game during trials) are sociopaths, and the only way to deal with them is instant and permanent social exile. You're sick monsters and this seemingly little thing is just evidence of your narcissism which is so rampantly rewarded in this game. Of course, the same goes for those who just assume everyone should rush through a dungeon and have a tantrum when people don't immediately do this. But bear in mind - most people who can do these dungeons probably already have many times. Just communicate. And mercilessly ostracize the entitled.

Titansteele

Join a guild, make friends and requests.

I never have a problem waiting for someone to go through the quests at their pace on their virgin run(s).

Turelus

Personally I run with friends/guilds for my first run if I can, that way they know I am there for the story.

Otherwise as others said tell your group you would like to do the story and ask if that's okay, maybe even form a group from zone chat specifically for that so a few of you can do the story and explore at the same time.

baratron

Join a social guild with members who care about Lore. There is a branch of the UESP Guild on the PC-NA server, PC-EU server, Xbox One-NA server, and PS4-EU server. I can't answer for how much the other branches do dungeons, but certainly at PC-NA we are totally happy to do story mode Dungeon and Trial runs upon request.

We also have Dungeon Help Night every Wednesday from 8-10pm, which is your chance to get help with any dungeons you haven't been able to complete.

Azurulia

phantom3538 wrote: »

Just tell your group when you get in. Every group I've been in (several with multiple 600+ CP people) have been totally understanding.

^ this.

My first time through a dungeon I've mentioned that I'd really like to see the story and if they don't mind lagging back a bit for me to see it, and that I'd really appreciate it.

So far so good. people have been really understanding. Which is pretty cool.

TheUrbanWizard

Pibbles wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

Not the ones i get into, vetern wise. Sometimes normal dungeon groups wait for a very short time though. But in verern content, if I happen to have the quest, someone will just spam through the dialogue while im trying to read so I miss out anyway. I believe it's best to create a group specifically stating the story has some kind of priority.

I will always let someone on a normal dungeon do the story if they ask, including reading everything they need to and me waiting with them at the end to close the quest. Veteran, the issue should not arise because people should have completed the story when they did the dungeon in normal mode. If players have not done the dungeon in normal mode first, well they are just part of a bigger problem anyway, so people will not tend to have much patience with them.

By veteran we're usually grinding so just want to get the experience over with as quickly as possible, after all ESO dungeons are hardly the most interesting of things, mechanically speaking that is, some of the writing is very good.

Yeah but is it not a skill point in vet versions as well? So people still need to talk to npcs in vet even if they done normal version.