Heavy Armor DPS

MLGProPlayer

Games need to be balanced. If heavy armour was viable for DPS, what need would their be for light and medium armour?

Bobby_V_Rockit

Use Dreugh King Slayer, 3x agility, , buy a velidreth shoulder from golden vendor and go for it. Can do easier vet dungeons like that

hmsdragonfly

ereboz wrote: »

So ZoS likes to pride themselves on having a game that you can play 'your way'. Well I would love to play a heavy armor 2h warrior monster dps. But that's just not viable in ESO due to the medium armor passives that are more suited to this play style. I would love for someone to correct me if I'm wrong, but is it even possible to do decent dps in pve, wearing heavy armor? I'm mostly referring to vet dungeons, don't really have any interest in trials

Play as you want, but the devs never promise you that you can be top-tier effective with a bow/restro DPS PvE build. You can lower the difficulty in skyrim if you suck at theorycrafting, so, even if you have a stupid build in Skyrim, you can still play the game in easy mode. Here, there's no such thing as lowering difficulty, so expect a terrible build to be less effective than a well-thought build.

You can be a heavy armor 2H warrior monster dps in PvP.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Firstly, two handed is absolutely worst in PVE. It's horrible. Duel wield is superior in every single way. Superior AOE, superior single target potential. Secondly, medium armor is basicly all your gonna use.

Two-Handed is viable for PvE this patch, although DW is still a bit more effective.

Doctordarkspawn

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

ereboz wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Welcome to ESO. Play your way is a lie.

Firstly, two handed is absolutely worst in PVE. It's horrible. Duel wield is superior in every single way. Superior AOE, superior single target potential. Secondly, medium armor is basicly all your gonna use.

Sad fact is, the only place where you can 'play how you want', is PVP. Because that's how the system was designed, it's a PVP system. Your setup is actually fairly popular in PVP and will continue to be until Twohander and heavy armor get nerfed into the ground and PVE suffers for it.

Really is sad that this game has absolutely no balance.

@ereboz If your definition of "balance" is "everything is the same" then yes.

If you rock heavy armor you can get some damage out of it, but only if you get hit. You are also much much tankier. You won't do the same dps as a comparatively squishier medium armor build.

If you want to wear heavy armor in PvE, go right ahead. You can hold aggro and dps at the same time and take the "tank" role in group dungeons, though this won't make you too many fans in terms of people that expect utility and debuffs from their tanks, and it won't get you anywhere if you want to partake in veteran trials. You can absolutely do overworld(read:solo, or intended to be solo at least content) or try soloing dungeons in heavy armor and no one will be bothered in the least, it's even easy to recommend heavy armor here.

You can even just dps in heavy armor, with good sets you can pull acceptable numbers, but again if you play with randoms you can expect a fair number of them are going to be upset that you're sacrificing damage to wear heavy armor. You don't have this problem if you play with(or make some) friends that don't mind going a bit slower.


To reiterate: Yes, using a 2H weapon and full heavy armor is negative for PvE DPS. 2H has superior burst damage to DW and is more suited to PvP, heavy armor has great benefits to defense and unified damage and sustain(magicka AND stamina). This makes these choices distinct from Medium and DW, both of which sacrifice the benefits of Heavy and 2H to have their own identities.

They can have their identities and be successfull in the same setting. I've seen it happen in other games. This game does not have a excuse.

Unless, of course, Heavy armor was never ment as a DPS tool in the first place, and it wasn't.

Savos_Saren

OP, what's your race/class? I can offer many heavy armored DPS builds. I actually take pride in having builds that slide between tanking and DPS with ease. I make my builds to solo world bosses.