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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

VMA stam dk build

Olupajmibanan
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Hello

Looking for advice before going to farm sharpened VO weapons.

As a stam dk, is it better to go 5 Vo + 5 some set (I prefer TBS, dont like NMG or spriggans because I find noxious + sharpened to be more than enough penetration) + 2 Velidreth or 2 VMA sharpened daggers?

I am asking because farming 2 sharpened VMA daggers seems easier (I sound stupid, I know) than farming VO sharpened daggers.

Thanks for advices.
  • jakeedmundson
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    Go for the vma daggers... now that they drop two 1 handed weapons at a time, you should find something useful sooner.

    It seems to only be an issue in vma if you're hunting for a sharpened destro staff....
    Edited by jakeedmundson on March 2, 2017 7:47PM
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    Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
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    Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
    Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
    PS4 - DC
    vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless

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  • Olupajmibanan
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    But is vma weapons-setup actually better than velidreth one?

    Because I have a strong feeling that velidreth burst seems more useful for vMA clears than vma dagger enchant that empowers dots except flurry itself.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on March 2, 2017 8:24PM
  • jakeedmundson
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    Run this....

    velidreth 2 pc
    mal daggers and mal bow
    5 pc tbs/nmg/etc. etc.
    3 piece VO

    If you're more worried about sustain than extra damage... drop velidreth and fill in the armor spots with VO - so you're running 5-5 +mal weapons

    I still hit 30k dps on the target skeleton with less than stellar rotation using 5 NMG + 5 VO + sharpened maelstrom daggers and bow.
    CP690
    Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
    Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
    Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
    PS4 - DC
    vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless

    My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294724/magicka-sorc-heavy-attack-build-homestead-ready/p1?new=1
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Thanks a lot, will try it.
  • Lukums1
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    I dunno I go NMG + 5 VO + 2 Veli.

    I get 500-510k scores nothing amazing but I find it's easier to over pen then to worry about placement issues with nox breath sometimes but that's me personally.
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

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    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
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  • Hyde_Jekyll
    My current set up is 2 kragh,5 spriggan,5 vo *my weapon damage is 3040 unbuffed *3.5k with crit surged* I changed it to 2 maelstrom dagger (main hand is nirn off hand is sharpened) 5 two fanged, 5 VO. Total weapon damage unbuff is 3451 *4003 with crit surge* and guess what my previous set still out DPS it even with 500 more weapon damage. My rapid strikes ticks 150-200 more damage on my old set up and then kragh procs like 1.5k-2kish per tick so that's additional dps. Only advantage of the maelstrom is the single target dot buff for bloodcraze its 4K tick (without maelstrom buff) 6k (with maelstrom buff) I'll take the kragh over the buffed bloodcraze

    *i thought maelstrom dual wield also buffs rapid strikes well I guess not after testing it on a skelly dummy*
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Lukums1 wrote: »
    I dunno I go NMG + 5 VO + 2 Veli.

    I get 500-510k scores nothing amazing but I find it's easier to over pen then to worry about placement issues with nox breath sometimes but that's me personally.

    That's a matter of personal preference. But the question isn't TBS vs NMG vs Spriggans.

    I am asking about Monster (Velidreth most preferably) vs maelstrom weapons.
  • Lukums1
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    Meh I've seen no difference during my score runs on vma weapons or monster helms.

    Nothing notable anyway.

    I'd be using veli over vma weapons.
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
    The Maelstrom BIBLE for beginners/Flawless Achieve Below
    https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/111730700
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

    Returns after 6 months back to back flawless
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180384648


  • xblackroxe
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    Giving up veli is a bad idea and not having 5 vo is an even worse idea.
    Just use hundings + vo + veli
    Tbs is a *** set for vma
    Edited by xblackroxe on March 6, 2017 11:22AM
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    xblackroxe wrote: »
    Giving up veli is a bad idea and not having 5 vo is an even worse idea.
    Just use hundings + vo + veli
    Tbs is a *** set for vma

    So, in your opinion, it is really bad idea to give up veli FOR maelstrom daggers?

    Can you please be more specific on that? What are the pros and cons when using Velidreth over MSA daggers?
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on March 6, 2017 12:14PM
  • xblackroxe
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    xblackroxe wrote: »
    Giving up veli is a bad idea and not having 5 vo is an even worse idea.
    Just use hundings + vo + veli
    Tbs is a *** set for vma

    So, in your opinion, it is really bad idea to give up veli FOR maelstrom daggers?

    Can you please be more specific on that? What are the pros and cons when using Velidreth over MSA daggers?

    Yes that ms what i want to say.

    Vma is all about burst as most stuff doesnt live long enough to matter. And veli is just the best burst set you have in pve.

    Vma daggers aren't worth it for short fights. They are useless for everything but bosses and even at bosses they are less effective than having a monsterset or another full 5 piece.

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  • Lukums1
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    Meh as I stated it comes down to your state of play, I see zero difference between these choices in homestead patch.

    Veli or vMA daggers is a bit of a MEH.

    It comes down to what you generally "feel" is easier from your point of view tbh.
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
    The Maelstrom BIBLE for beginners/Flawless Achieve Below
    https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/111730700
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

    Returns after 6 months back to back flawless
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180384648


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