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Robisok74

You have 4 or 5 bots in Betnikh now. I have reported them and taken a recording if you need it.

Paneross

They don't care.

ADarklore

Paneross wrote: »

They don't care.

That is not true, Jessica addressed this just yesterday.

ZOS_GinaBruno

We do care very much. @Robisok74, could you report the players you're seeing, please? You can find instructions for each platform in this post. Thank you!

DRXHarbinger

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

DRXHarbinger

Or on said event give the Dolmen boss 1000% health, 18k Res and a huge damage boost? It'll be fun for us and the botters will die.

Arthg

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Brilliant idea, I love it!

Turelus

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

As much as I would love wrecking bots this would be a RP nightmare when trolls start killing AFK casual* players who didn't know the event was happening.

* casual as in those who don't read forums or follow new, just log in to relax and play.

JasonSilverSpring

Turelus wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

As much as I would love wrecking bots this would be a RP nightmare when trolls start killing AFK casual* players who didn't know the event was happening.

* casual as in those who don't read forums or follow new, just log in to relax and play.

Also, wouldn't the botters just set the client to auto-decline all duel requests?

That is what I have done and I am not even a botter.

Not sure how feasible it would be, but some way in game to alert/summon a customer support person when there is multiple botters active for them to come in and identify/action them in mass would be best solution.

Tommy_The_Gun

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Robisok74

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We do care very much. @Robisok74, could you report the players you're seeing, please? You can find instructions for each platform in this post. Thank you!

Yes I did this at the time for all players involved on the XboxOne eu server and have received tickets for each report. Thanks for your reply.

DRXHarbinger

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Exactly. Bots die and we win a prize. Could even make a leaderboard for it. Legit players walk away.

Or 5 people report someone that's AFK / suspect bot. They get a pop up saying "Molag Bal challenges you to prove you are there" no response. ..a spectral (can't be killed or taunted) overfiend appears and flurrys them to death and disappears taking all thier soul gems with them.

Dagoth_Rac

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Preyfar

Robisok74 wrote: »

You have 4 or 5 bots in Betnikh now. I have reported them and taken a recording if you need it.

There's a ton of broken bots in Rawl'kha. If you go there, you'll tend to see them clustered up by the wayshrine. They don't do anything but jump once about every 18-20 seconds. It's hard not to notice half a dozen level 3s standing on top of one another, not doing anything but jumping in precise intervals. Heh.

howdawut

I used to be be very diligent reporting bots. Spent a lot of time making sure they were indeed bots, observing their behavior so I could make a detailed report to help ZOS staff take action quicker and easier. But when I returned to an area where I had reported a bot and still see it a week, two weeks and even a month later, I had to ask myself why am I wasting my time. Add the fact that even if the bot disappeared, was it my or someone else's report that made a difference? I still see them from time to time but I'm done reporting. My experience tells me that removing bots are not a very high priority for ZOS. I'm sure they care...but relative to what?

DRXHarbinger

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

Alarra

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Exactly. Bots die and we win a prize. Could even make a leaderboard for it. Legit players walk away.

Or 5 people report someone that's AFK / suspect bot. They get a pop up saying "Molag Bal challenges you to prove you are there" no response. ..a spectral (can't be killed or taunted) overfiend appears and flurrys them to death and disappears taking all thier soul gems with them.

How does that prevent it being abused and used on legitimately afk people? Ideally people would only use this on those who are acting like bots, but there's no way to be sure and filter it - that's what reporting is for, we leave it up to ZOS. If we mistakenly report a non-bot, ZOS checks it, realizes they're not, no harm done. Your way there's nothing to stop a group of trolls from going around and doing that to any character standing still - and if it requires people reporting them, then you're clogging up the report system, plus the extra work of identifying whether someone's abusing the report system (which they're more likely to do when given an immediate "reward" like seeing an afk-er be insta-killed.)

Junipus

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

For a weekend, barely, then pissing off everyone else who's out questing and can't escape a duel with someone looking for a fight.

Any variation of dueling or determining if someone's a bot purely by them being AFK is asinine at best.

Robisok74

Robisok74 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We do care very much. @Robisok74, could you report the players you're seeing, please? You can find instructions for each platform in this post. Thank you!

Yes I did this at the time for all players involved on the XboxOne eu server and have received tickets for each report. Thanks for your reply.

There are 8 of them still there just south east of carved hills in Betnikh XboxOne eu.

DRXHarbinger

Junipus wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

For a weekend, barely, then pissing off everyone else who's out questing and can't escape a duel with someone looking for a fight.

Any variation of dueling or determining if someone's a bot purely by them being AFK is asinine at best.

Bit of an exaggeration. Make it a 2 min cool down and duel invites. It'll kill it off from abuse.

Legit AFK...seriously. 1 death and you're back where you started. Or you'll most likely time out before anyone spots you being AFK. Also it's not to target people that are AFK but people holding down heavies 24/7 at dolmens. The bot hunters will go the flock not some random idling in the middle of the desert.

zaria

Preyfar wrote: »

Robisok74 wrote: »

You have 4 or 5 bots in Betnikh now. I have reported them and taken a recording if you need it.

There's a ton of broken bots in Rawl'kha. If you go there, you'll tend to see them clustered up by the wayshrine. They don't do anything but jump once about every 18-20 seconds. It's hard not to notice half a dozen level 3s standing on top of one another, not doing anything but jumping in precise intervals. Heh.

Broken bots are the best, my guess however is that they are grouped with some players and get leveled each time group clear the dolmen.
Saw one archer in an video who was shooting in the ground.

DRXHarbinger

Or maybe the easiest way to kill the AFK botters holding down heavies..change the requirement for a time out to actually use the movement controls. If you don't move for 10 mins you're disconnected. No harm to anyone but it'll screw thier multi boxing operation up. No one genuinely needs to stand still for 10 mins and warrant a rage for being DCd do they. Just relog. That's all there is to it.

Betheny

Back off with the forced duel requests and focus on getting the GMs to actually police the game world.

I auto decline duels and if that was taken away and some *** tries to spam request duels in middle of fight when I can't stop to click the notification thing in the way on my damn screen then

DRXHarbinger

Betheny wrote: »

Back off with the forced duel requests and focus on getting the GMs to actually police the game world.

I auto decline duels and if that was taken away and some *** tries to spam request duels in middle of fight when I can't stop to click the notification thing in the way on my damn screen then

Mad bro.

Betheny

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Or maybe the easiest way to kill the AFK botters holding down heavies..change the requirement for a time out to actually use the movement controls. If you don't move for 10 mins you're disconnected. No harm to anyone but it'll screw thier multi boxing operation up. No one genuinely needs to stand still for 10 mins and warrant a rage for being DCd do they. Just relog. That's all there is to it.

Nope, another stupid idea - modifying normal players' game experience to our detriment just to totally fail to deal with a botting situation - that I don't even notice or care about.

The bots would have a programmed jump if that was to happen, derp.

DHale

Hi Gina I made about 20 reports of bots all over alk ir desert. They are still there weeks later. They don't care maybe you personally do. Customer service who get these complaints do not put bots as a priority. Bring back game masters that can come into your instance and squash them instantly like you used to have. I... we won't keep reporting them if they are still there days weeks months later. Better yet get on the live game and go to the dolmens and see for your self one dolmen had 13 bots... crazy.

Tandor

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

No thanks. Bots don't interfere with my gameplay (not that I condone them), removal of auto-decline on duels would do. Report bots and move on.

purple-magicb16_ESO

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

No it won't. They'll be disrupted for the weekend then they'll be back. This is not a permanent solution nor is it viable even in the short term in my opinion.

Kaymorolis

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Legit AFK...seriously. 1 death and you're back where you started. Or you'll most likely time out before anyone spots you being AFK. Also it's not to target people that are AFK but people holding down heavies 24/7 at dolmens. The bot hunters will go the flock not some random idling in the middle of the desert.

It's not meant to target the legit AFK players, but it will still happen. Theres always some jerk out there who would take advantage of it.

purple-magicb16_ESO

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

No it won't. They'll be disrupted for the weekend then they'll be back. This is not a permanent solution nor is it viable even in the short term in my opinion.

Identifying, targeting and removing bots is not players responsibility. If they place this on players I am sure the outcome will not be favorable

DRXHarbinger

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you not just empower the community with a "Weekend event" ask someone for a duel if they do not decline it or walk away then it starts the duel and we can kill them and ruin thier botting goodness. Each kill we make lands a prize?

Erm.. bots will not walk away... nor will they refuse a duel... they will simply ignore everything (because they are bots). The only people who actually will refuse to duel / walk away will be the "real one"

So you achieved everything except the thing you were trying to do...

Duel refusal is automatic. I got challenged to a duel every 4 seconds in places like Rawl'kha and Wayrest. Manually refusing them got tiring so I set to auto-decline. So bots will auto-decline duels just like real players who come into town to vend and bank and decon and don't want to put up with manually declining duel requests every 2 seconds.

Bots have no need to be in town. Simple solution. Remove auto decline outside of townships for a weekend. It'll be chaos still but it'll get rid of some of them.

No it won't. They'll be disrupted for the weekend then they'll be back. This is not a permanent solution nor is it viable even in the short term in my opinion.

Identifying, targeting and removing bots is not players responsibility. If they place this on players I am sure the outcome will not be favorable

No its not. Just an idea that I thought of whilst waiting for office pro 365 to install. Everyday there are post over bots and it seems to be taking somewhat of an issue to the larger community and zos isn't doing jack (contrary to today's post ) regardless of the above nerd rage the impact to legit players would be minute at most. I don't personally care too much to be honest it was just an idea. I'd actually just like a community event outside of weeklies that are getting dull and repetitive. The pvp event atm isn't an event for us per say it's us doing zos a favour and dlc events aren't community based it's a free for all over nodes and soul shriven skins. New thread needed.