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Dolmen Drones - get rid of them

  • SydneyGrey
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    And this impacts you in what way?
    It impacts people when their armor gets messed up fighting the monsters, while you set your bot out there to spam attacks from a distance, essentially using them to get you free experience.

    But even that's not as bad as the people who put out harvesting bots. That's just terribly selfish and awful. It's difficult to farm an area when someone's bot keeps the area clean of nodes all day long. And then they sell the items they get in the guild traders ... dozens of the items, for cheap ... and essentially make it so no one else can sell those same things in the guild traders. It's just a crappy, self-centered thing to do.

    Now, is it the worst thing in the entire universe? No, there are plenty of worse things. But we're talking about the game, here.


    Edited by SydneyGrey on March 2, 2017 5:35AM
  • JWKe
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    How does it affect you? I'm actually pretty glad these bots are here. Makes Dolmens all the much easier.
  • kyle.wilson
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    JWKe wrote: »
    How does it affect you? I'm actually pretty glad these bots are here. Makes Dolmens all the much easier.
    ZOS needs to track who is benefitting from the bots instead of just banning the bots. Follow the gold, then ban those individuals. Most of the bots I've seen were farming mudcrabs.

    Games that can't control bots usually end in hyperinflation of game currency.
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  • Everstorm
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    Easiest way to stop them would be if the real players would just hang back a min when the dolmen spawns and wait for the bots to hit the cultists. >:)
    Edited by Everstorm on March 2, 2017 6:30AM
  • adriant1978
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    Everstorm wrote: »
    Easiest way to stop them would be if the real players would just hang back a min when the dolmen spawns and wait for the bots to hit the cultists. >:)

    I don't think they'll hit the cultists because they are aimed at the spot where the final boss spawns.

    Now if ZOS were to change the boss spawn point to be the same place as where the cultists stand ... >:)
  • TheShadowScout
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    Yeah, these "on auto" people are really annoying. But no more then annoying either.

    I for one would love to see the dolmen changed into a more random setup - so the final boss spawns somewhere, not always at the same spot...

    And I especially would love to see (or rather, hear about) those fools who have their ctaracters on auto to grind XP/CP without the grinding to suffer for it. Like... getting their account locked until they pay a fine in crowns! I mean, if the police fines people who break the rules of the road, why shouldn't ZOS when some mess up in-game? Would be a much better way to deal with infractions then temp bans or something...
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  • Turelus
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    Jessica's post from yesterday about some of this.

    Basically keep reporting, give more information in your reports and they will try to get through them all.
    Hi everyone,

    We know there have been a lot of questions recently about botting, automated play, what’s a Terms of Service Violation and what isn’t, and what we’re doing to combat TOS-violating behavior. We’d like to answer some of those questions and provide insight.

    Per our Terms of Service, this is the definition of botting and automated play:
    Utilizing automation for your character is a violation of our Terms of Service. This is defined as taking action on your character, without human input, to further advance your progress in the game. Which is considered botting.

    Recently, some of you have asked if it’s okay to put tape or a rubber band on your controller. The short answer is “No.” Automating your character in any way, including placing tape or a rubber-band on a console controller, is considered a violation of our Terms of Service, and action may be taken on your account. You must be actively controlling your character.

    In regards to our efforts to combat botting and automated play, we’re tackling it on two fronts: Game Development and Customer Support.

    On the Game Development front, we are auditing the monsters that are most commonly targeted by those who bot and automate play to ensure the spawn timers are what they should be. As we find them, we’re fixing any monsters that are instantly re-spawning or on a spawn timer that is shorter than intended.

    On the Customer Support side of things, our Terms of Service team suspends and bans accounts daily. We review all TOS reports that we receive, and prioritize the investigations of accounts that have received multiple complaints. We regularly send our Support Agents in-game to watch high-traffic areas such as Dolmens, and take action on any violators we identify. We turn over identified “black marketeers” and repeat offenders to Sony and Microsoft, which sometimes results in a ban of the individual’s PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. We also do other secret things. ;)

    So how can you help us with our efforts to get rid of those who are botting and/or automating their characters? Reporting them to us is a huge help, and we do review every ticket we receive.

    Here are some steps for using the in-game reporting tools:

    On PC/Mac
    Radial Menu
    Reporting players via the radial menu is the preferred method. Walk up to the player you wish to report and Press [F] to open the radial menu. Select “Report Player” then let go of [F] to open the Report Player window. Press [E] to report the player for botting, or [R] to open the Ticket Creation page.

    Chat Window
    You can also Right-click on a player character name in their chat window and choose the “Report Player” option.

    Press [E] to report a player for chat spam, including spamming gold sales advertisements. This will automatically send a report and does not require you to open and fill out a ticket.

    Press [R] to report another player for something unrelated to spam. Choosing this option opens the Ticket Creation page.


    On PS4/Xbox One
    Radial Menu
    As with PC/Mac, reporting players via the radial menu is preferred. Simply walk up to the player you wish to report and press the [Menu] button on Xbox One or [Options] button on PlayStation 4 to open the radial menu. Select “Report Player” then let go of [Menu] or [Options] to open the Report Player window.

    Customer Service Menu
    Navigate to the Player Menu ([Menu] on Xbox One or [Options]) on PlayStation 4 and find the Help Menu.
    From there, select the Customer Service Menu and proceed to fill out a ticket under the appropriate category type.

    Please provide the following information when reporting another player:
    • The name of the player you are reported
    • The reason why you are reporting them (Spam, Botting, or Harassment)
    • The time of the incident
    • The megaserver that the reported player is playing on
    If you wish to include visual proof of the violation, such as screenshots or video footage, simply reply to your Support Ticket to update it and add the files.

    We hope this info helps – thank you for being a part of our community and continuing to report any potential TOS violations you see!

    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • Chrysa1is
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    They need to change it so that staffs will lock when fully charged and only fire after releasing the attack button
  • Darkstorne
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    They need to change it so that staffs will lock when fully charged and only fire after releasing the attack button

    Yep, that or have a "kick-back" recoil effect when a heavy attack fires, raising your aim slightly. After 5 heavies they'll be way off target and the trick won't work anymore.

    It's not really botting, in the traditional sense. It's just someone sitting something heavy on their left click button so it stays down, or using an elastic band. Doesn't mean it isn't pathetic though :tongue:
  • Nahtal
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    Dolmens are nice and (way to easy) do it only when I'm nearby a dolmen. Love Molag Balls talking :D
    Love to crind, to sell, to explore, to heal, and to have fun.
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  • parkham
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    JWKe wrote: »
    How does it affect you? I'm actually pretty glad these bots are here. Makes Dolmens all the much easier.

    Where's the "Not Awesome" button?

    What if I don't want it be easier? With that logic, why don't we all have bots as helpers.

    Perhaps someone could script 8 Magplars to help me - have them follow and then hang back, shoot spears and Jesus beams, and the occasional buff and heal. Man, that would make it much easier.
    Edited by parkham on March 2, 2017 2:17PM

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  • parkham
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    They need to change it so that staffs will lock when fully charged and only fire after releasing the attack button

    If so, all heavy attacks.

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  • jircris11
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    So you'd want to report them each because they are not playing in a way ZOS intends.
    Mostly these are either ppl holding down heavy attack for hours OR possibly bots


    I don't believe that removing Dolemans is the correct action as it happens in all forms.....delves, over world, etc not just Dolemans

    One thing to note...threads aren't doing anything other than discussing what we see. We all have to open reporting ingame to make a difference and perhaps if enough tickets continue, it may lead to better adjustments such as requiring player movement and not attack animations

    ACTUALLY most of THOSE people are bots lol.
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  • lagrue
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    I've seen this crap basically as long as I've been playing and I don't even understand why. You get so much more for your time in terms of XP and loot if you just fight normally. They're only hitting one small spot (boss spawn) - but they're only hitting whatever walks there. They probably only get 1/10 the xp they could otherwise by just playing.
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