Work for 2 years for CP and now on the same level as people who started a few weeks ago...

Skullz11c

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

film

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

You want a good functioning game but don't want a week of NO CP that could help provide a good functioning game?

Alpheu5

They're on the same level, except for the technical experience, material stock, crafting investment, gear acquired, alliance war standing, achievement tally, bank account, or unavailable Crown Store items.

Balthyzar

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Runs

So in 2 years of playing, you never learned how to play? Cause that's where you would be if you are on the same level as someone new.

It's 1 week, give it a shot. Some people who never thought they would may actually end up enjoying the no CP once they start to get used to it.

Soleya

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Everything except the actual skill to win.

ZOS is doing a test to confirm if CP is the cause of LAG. It's one week test. This could lead them to discover performance issues with the CP system and fix them. This is a good thing.

srfrogg23

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

How much time do you spend playing vs how much time do they spend playing?

Are you going through the content and collecting achievements, skill points and lorebooks? There are really fast ways to grind out CPs, but that's the only thing you're going to get.

I wouldn't spend too much time comparing the ways you invest your time to theirs; there are always trade offs.

cjthibs

1 week...untwist those panties and get on with it...

flguy147ub17_ESO

People its only a week. I dont understand why people want statistical advantages over players in PVP, wait i understand its because they cant beat people on a level playing field. I want to beat somebody cause i outplayed them not because i have higher stats. And again, its only a week to try and make the game better. The performance is garbage and needs to be tested. Never seen so many people whine over one week, must be a lot of high school and college kids on here cause a week is not long at all. Fixing the performance should come before Homestead, Morrowind, the next chapter, etc. It should be priority #1 so stop whining and help them fix the game.

SolidusPrime

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Im confused. What is a new player handed that I had to work hard for?

Yolokin_Swagonborn

CP isn't removed in PvE. All your "hard work" is preserved. Unless you consider that ZOS increases the strength, power and armor of the mobs to compensate and that the entire CP system is just an illusion to make you feel like you are progressing. CP is a treadmill and you are on it.


As for PvP, I am sorry you are frustrated that you can no longer hit 25% harder, regen 25% faster, and take 20% less damage than new players. (as well as 4k more resources, more crit, and tons of helpful passives) Must be challenging to have to fight on equal footing with everyone else.

TheNuminous1

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Everything except the actual skill to win.

ZOS is doing a test to confirm if CP is the cause of LAG. It's one week test. This could lead them to discover performance issues with the CP system and fix them. This is a good thing.

They get the idea that cp is the cause because auras star has less lag. This is just because no one is in there because of the no cp xD

UrQuan

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

It's definitely ridiculous that people are bitching and moaning about a short test as if it's the end of the world, and not something that's a necessary (and temporary) step to get towards improved performance.

RABIDxWOLVERINE

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

It's literally a week to improve the game and pvp that y'all complain about non stop on here. If you can't tough it out a week I think that says a lot about your character (not eso character your actual character).

Instead of being consistently negative, try appreciating the fact that they are trying to improve upon an aspect of the game that makes them probably next to no money other than IC I can think of no other way this would bring in funds, I could be wrong though. You do realize they could just say " ah, who cares let them complain" but instead they are trying to give you legit gains and all you can do is cry about it... it's a week!

JD2013

1 week. And people were made aware of this to collect data and hopefully make Cyrodiil more playable. Good lord it's not the end of the world.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

I spent so much time getting my character to Vet level 14, only to have ZOS raise level cap to VR16 (CP160), then steal about 4k magicka and 4k stamina and lock it behind the champion system forcing me to grind it back up.

No one shed a tear then, no one will shed a tear now. ZOS took what I had earned to implement the Champion system, now they can take it again to remove something that is unbalancing PvP.

cjthibs

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Everything except the actual skill to win.

ZOS is doing a test to confirm if CP is the cause of LAG. It's one week test. This could lead them to discover performance issues with the CP system and fix them. This is a good thing.

They get the idea that cp is the cause because auras star has less lag. This is just because no one is in there because of the no cp xD

Which is absolutely not true...we get it you don't like it, but don't just make crap up.

skiptomyluau

IVe always preferred games where everyone pvp on an equal footing from the start

AtAfternoon

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

Everything except the actual skill to win.

ZOS is doing a test to confirm if CP is the cause of LAG. It's one week test. This could lead them to discover performance issues with the CP system and fix them. This is a good thing.

They get the idea that cp is the cause because auras star has less lag. This is just because no one is in there because of the no cp xD

On what servers? On PC EU I joined Trueflame an hour ago solely because It placed me in queue- number 60 compared to Azura's 80.

ElliottXO

... for one week. Your ego can't be that small, right?

bowmanz607

how dare you have to rely on skill awwwwww

bloodthirstyvampire

Yeah so scrubs can fight new players because they suck at anything above thier lvl and i miss kicking non cp players out of dungeons for no reason i agree

BTHRZeroX

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

If you truly think CP = Skill then you are sadly mistaken

Ocelot9x

Well,im cp 670 and i kinda enjoyed the pvp today. I can still 1vx newbies (not something to be proud of) and the pvp feel more genuine. I mean,till yesterday everyone was super tanky and killing blockplars/blockdk was such a pain while today everything felt smoother because people had to choose. Also you can see who is real good at managing resource etc. It's just a week so chill

DocFrost72

Alpheu5 wrote: »

They're on the same level, except for the technical experience, material stock, crafting investment, gear acquired, alliance war standing, achievement tally, bank account, or unavailable Crown Store items.

This ^

If you're no better than a week old player playing that long, your issue is not CP.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Well,im cp 670 and i kinda enjoyed the pvp today. I can still 1vx newbies (not something to be proud of) and the pvp feel more genuine. I mean,till yesterday everyone was super tanky and killing blockplars/blockdk was such a pain while today everything felt smoother because people had to choose. Also you can see who is real good at managing resource etc. It's just a week so chill

Exactly. Back when the game launched, you had to build for sustain and winning a fight meant managing your resources. With CP, winning a fight means stacking your damage and stun so you can burst someone down in the one second they aren't perma-healing, perma-blocking, perma-dodging or perma-shielding.

Although battle spirit needs a few more tweaks, no-CP is closer to the way the game played in patch 1.5 which was much more balanced and fun.

rustic_potato

Wow OP L2P maybe.. One week of playing without CP to improve overall game performance and you start whining.. God why are people so dumb and entitled..

Synical

UrQuan wrote: »

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

Balthyzar wrote: »

It is definitely ridiculous after all the time some of us have put into this game that new players can join and have everything we spent so much time on just handed to them on a silver platter.

It's definitely ridiculous that people are bitching and moaning about a short test as if it's the end of the world, and not something that's a necessary (and temporary) step to get towards improved performance.

I think it's more that they are angry at themselves for pouring so much into a game that is designed to be a time sink, and keep players clicking away. At the end of the day, what is their ranking getting them? With exceptions like @Deltia and his peers, they are nothing outside of the game- they are so tied between in-game accomplishments & ego, that any threat to that triggers a fight-flight response, putting them on the defensive.

Pops_ND_Irish

Bye

hmsdragonfly

Skullz11c wrote: »

so frustrating. I don't think my patience will persist until we actually get a good functioning game.

It's one week, mate.

SleepyTroll

If you are on the same level as people who started a week ago you haven't learned anything while you were playing and were literally being carried by your CP.