What exactly is a stamina sorcerer?

mikeabboudb14_ESO

None of the abilities convert to stamina, so how does one play a stamina sorcerer?

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JinMori

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Bound Armaments...
Hurricane...

Yeah, no stam morphs.

Not only that, but some magicka skills are very useful for stam, for example critical surge.

JinMori

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Keep_Door

L2P

Cimadon

Sorcerer passives even buff physical damage.

SaRuZ

The way of the future.

mikeabboudb14_ESO

is there a particular build or weapon do use

Iselin

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

is there a particular build or weapon do use

http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-dps-build/#Group

Bigevilpeter

A bunch of passives and hurricane

R1ckyDaMan

guessing buff etc with magic and attack with weapons.

Molydeus

A boring playstyle.

mikeabboudb14_ESO

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

is there a particular build or weapon do use

http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-dps-build/#Group

kind of defeats the purpose of what it means to be sorcerer but thank you.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Step 1: Press Hurricane
Step 2: Spam Wrecking Blow or similar
Step 3: Repeat with an occasional Vigor

Please note that a few weeks ago you could do this god mode style. Now with hurricane toned down, not so much.

People rightfully complained about proc sets but the real problem with PVP was abilities that could be cast and continued to both work and proc procs while spamming another attack. Now that hurricane has been nerfed alongside proc crits people can't just stand next to you and kill you without doing anything like before.

Iselin

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

is there a particular build or weapon do use

http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-dps-build/#Group

kind of defeats the purpose of what it means to be sorcerer but thank you.

The purpose of a sorcerer? lol.

Haven't you figured out yet that all classes in ESO are mages of one sort or another? Even the stamina abilities are "magical."

mikeabboudb14_ESO

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

is there a particular build or weapon do use

http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-dps-build/#Group

kind of defeats the purpose of what it means to be sorcerer but thank you.

The purpose of a sorcerer? lol.

Haven't you figured out yet that all classes in ESO are mages of one sort or another? Even the stamina abilities are "magical."

i guess i am just a rube

AcadianPaladin

OP, you are not a rube. On the surface it does seem incongruous. That said, a stam sorc focuses on stam weapons (most typically bow & dual wield) and supports by carefully choosing some of the sorc abilities - typically not the 'blow stuff up ones'.

A clannfear's hp and ability to tank scales on character level - not magicka or stam (though its damage scales on stam).
Hurricane is a great example of a skill that morphs to stam.
Encase or prison works just fine at locking down foes though if you go with the damage morph it will deal less.
Streak will still scoot you right out of the way regardless of how big your magicka pool is.

Considering that bow and DW offer plenty of skills to go in your slots, how many class skills do you need? In the case of a stam sorc, 3 or 4 carefully chosen ones work fine.

I hope that helps. Cheers.

OrphanHelgen

They heals on crit.
8% more stamina
11% heavy attack dmg
Aoe dmg, speed and ressistance from hurricane
Reduce cost of ultimate
Reduce mag and stam costs
Increase physical and shock dmg, shock dmg can be used on stamina with storm master set and the stormfist monster set.
They also cam convert magicka into health and stamina and oposite.

I prob forgot some since I dont play stam sorc atm

LadyLavina

A sorc who is very confused about who and what they are

Xundiin

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

is there a particular build or weapon do use

http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-dps-build/#Group

kind of defeats the purpose of what it means to be sorcerer but thank you.

Yes, if you where going off normal views of what a sorcerer is. But, in TES a Sorcerer was never cloth wearing staff wielding back line fighter. They are a front line conjurer. Similiar to TES version of a Battlemage. Both wearing heavy armor and standing next to the warrior in battle.

Kneighbors

I actually dislike the whole idea of stamina sorcerer. Damn, why do you make these ugly hybrids even viable? By definition sorcerer is not the guy who runs with two swords. On one hand I agree with those who say it's cool to play any style. On other hand when suddenly every second sorc you meet is running with DW, 2H or s&b it makes the fantasy game generally look very stupid.

Tryxus

A Spellsword or a Battlemage

IronCrystal

Kneighbors wrote: »

I actually dislike the whole idea of stamina sorcerer. Damn, why do you make these ugly hybrids even viable? By definition sorcerer is not the guy who runs with two swords. On one hand I agree with those who say it's cool to play any style. On other hand when suddenly every second sorc you meet is running with DW, 2H or s&b it makes the fantasy game generally look very stupid.

Why do you think we are limited to only magicka versions of a sorc?

Granted, in this patch who wants to play stam sorc anyways other than vMA.

KochDerDamonen

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

is there a particular build or weapon do use

http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-dps-build/#Group

kind of defeats the purpose of what it means to be sorcerer but thank you.

The purpose of a sorcerer? lol.

Haven't you figured out yet that all classes in ESO are mages of one sort or another? Even the stamina abilities are "magical."

i guess i am just a rube

@mikeabboudb14_ESO Don't feel bad about it, this all roots at the singleplayer games where it's very much encouraged that a player flirts with physical and magical elements to craft a strong character. In TES terms, going back Sorcerer has had heavy armor, bows and short blades in their repertoire. If you want to look as far back as Daggerfall, they even had use of blunt weapons ^^

Rosveen

Kneighbors wrote: »

I actually dislike the whole idea of stamina sorcerer. Damn, why do you make these ugly hybrids even viable? By definition sorcerer is not the guy who runs with two swords. On one hand I agree with those who say it's cool to play any style. On other hand when suddenly every second sorc you meet is running with DW, 2H or s&b it makes the fantasy game generally look very stupid.

Battlemages have been a thing for as long as fantasy existed. Magic and sword don't need to be mutually exclusive.

Kneighbors

Rosveen wrote: »

Kneighbors wrote: »

I actually dislike the whole idea of stamina sorcerer. Damn, why do you make these ugly hybrids even viable? By definition sorcerer is not the guy who runs with two swords. On one hand I agree with those who say it's cool to play any style. On other hand when suddenly every second sorc you meet is running with DW, 2H or s&b it makes the fantasy game generally look very stupid.

Battlemages have been a thing for as long as fantasy existed. Magic and sword don't need to be mutually exclusive.

Even if you take Battlemage it doesn't sounds like the dude who uses magicka for buffs and then attacks with 2H, DW or S&B. So no, sorry, nice try tho. While Sorcerer and Battlemage by difinition is very different in Tolkien's fantasy.

KochDerDamonen

Kneighbors wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Kneighbors wrote: »

I actually dislike the whole idea of stamina sorcerer. Damn, why do you make these ugly hybrids even viable? By definition sorcerer is not the guy who runs with two swords. On one hand I agree with those who say it's cool to play any style. On other hand when suddenly every second sorc you meet is running with DW, 2H or s&b it makes the fantasy game generally look very stupid.

Battlemages have been a thing for as long as fantasy existed. Magic and sword don't need to be mutually exclusive.

Even if you take Battlemage it doesn't sounds like the dude who uses magicka for buffs and then attacks with 2H, DW or S&B. So no, sorry, nice try tho. While Sorcerer and Battlemage by difinition is very different in Tolkien's fantasy.

@Kneighbors Swordcerer

A templar would traditionally be a holy knight, what's with all these robe-wearing cleric-looking ninnies?

Iselin

Kneighbors wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Kneighbors wrote: »

I actually dislike the whole idea of stamina sorcerer. Damn, why do you make these ugly hybrids even viable? By definition sorcerer is not the guy who runs with two swords. On one hand I agree with those who say it's cool to play any style. On other hand when suddenly every second sorc you meet is running with DW, 2H or s&b it makes the fantasy game generally look very stupid.

Battlemages have been a thing for as long as fantasy existed. Magic and sword don't need to be mutually exclusive.

Even if you take Battlemage it doesn't sounds like the dude who uses magicka for buffs and then attacks with 2H, DW or S&B. So no, sorry, nice try tho. While Sorcerer and Battlemage by difinition is very different in Tolkien's fantasy.

The Elder Scrolls have never been based on Tolkien lore. That's what's good about them. They are their own thing with their own lore.

The original Sorcerer in the first game were a unique type of mage that didn't have the ability to generate their own Magicka but had a much larger magicka pool than other mage classes and absorbed spells cast on them to replenish their magicka, They also could be played with any weapons and could use leather and chain.

The squishy class that some of you are thinking the sorcerer should be was the Mage. They could not wear armor and were restricted to staff and dagger as the only weapons.

So please learn your ES lore before you go around saying silly things like sorcerers with heavy armor and two swords are weird. In ES games it's standard.

If you're interested in learning, these were the classes in ES Arena, the first ES game:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Classes#Sorcerer

TheShadowScout

Take a look at the most basic definition opf "Sorcery":

sorcery
[sawr-suh-ree]
noun, plural sorceries.

• the art, practices, or spells of a person who is supposed to exercise supernatural powers through the aid of evil spirits...

Fits, doesn't it? I mean... evil spirits = daedra... dark magic... okay, so there is some lightning in there as well... mayve storm sprites or something got involved as well?

And it matters little if said "sorceror" is a full time spellcaster (aka, magica sorc) or mainly a swordswinger with some backup from mentioned evil spirits (aka, stamina sorc).

Yeah, it would have been nice if we had an option to "morph" our class, to distinguish our builds... but sadly, nope. Though it would be nifty if stamina sorcs could "morph" their "class" into, say, "Spellsword" so confusion of the sort mentioned here would not happen anymore. Or magica DKs go "Pyromancer". Or stamina templars go "Crusader". Or magica nightblades go "Blood Mage" or "Illusionist" or something...

datgladiatah

Idk why non TES fans are coming in here and deciding for us how we see classes we've been comfortable with for decades. Maybe you're just not that creative?