Sorc Shields OP Now?

MishMash

I am so sick of people complaining about Sorcs and their shields. I have played in PvP a Mag Sorc for a while (alliance rank around 40) and I can assure you the 4 second shields are tough to keep up. If you guys cannot find a time to burst us then... IDK what to tell you. There are skills in every class that can easily set you up to take out a Sorc. I say that from playing one for so long and hard. Just gotta figure out what works on them Yes, I know they are 6 seconds, but with lag/input lag I call them 4 seconds.

Ep1kMalware

Biro123 wrote: »

Most easily avoidable burst:
Sorcerer
Worst defence in large-scale and out of combat:
Sorcerer
Best illusion of Mobility
Sorceror
Best mobility
Any magicka class with mist-form.. or stamsorc.
Coolest players
Sorceror
Sexyest players
Sorceror
Smartest players
Sorceror

(and there is probably more that I forgot about)

have to disagree. 99% of sorcs are guaranteed to play like ass and die all the time. Most sorcs are zookeepers anyway. They just run around streaking/poping their ward/clanfear and forget about mechanics >.<

Just saying. Sorcs are like templars: they're very very rarely played by compotent players. Usually when I see a mag sorc on my team for vet dailies I think 'fml bail bail bail'.

SnubbS

alexkdd99 wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

I honestly wish that shields weren't even in the game and everyone had to heal like Stam characters.

Dude stam characters are so easier in pvp what you mean? U can vigor while u dps with vigor healing u for 20k over 5 seconds.

Il take heal over time over shields all day shields

All u gotta do is pop vigor in heavy armor and ur good to go for 10 seconds of dps

When im on magicka character I feel like im fighting with anxiety

I'm not saying it's hard to heal on Stam characters, I'm saying that the style of healing would be better for the game. You get one burst heal that's basically on a 15sec cooldown, a weak HoT, and a strong HoT on demand. You can also be affected by Major/Minor defile, which is a good thing, and you have to invest at least 10-15 pts into Blessed. Shields are a better way to heal yourself, but force you to be on the defensive for longer.

That would be super boring. I want variety, not a lot of clones running around.

I'll take more balanced gameplay over variety.

thankyourat wrote: »

mmolegends44 wrote: »

@alexkdd99 he has a point @SnubbS if they made vigor heals way better for stam in my opinion vigor does not heal properly at all it's annoying when you in a middle of a fight pop vigor and it doesn't heal you at times just irritating.

Buff vigor? You have to be kidding. Vigor is super op on some of my characters I can get 6k vigor ticks that's pretty much a burst heal that tics multiple times. I'm pretty sure this is a troll thread

I'm not saying buff vigor, I'm saying give every class a way to heal and eliminate shields.

thankyourat

SnubbS wrote: »

alexkdd99 wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

I honestly wish that shields weren't even in the game and everyone had to heal like Stam characters.

Dude stam characters are so easier in pvp what you mean? U can vigor while u dps with vigor healing u for 20k over 5 seconds.

Il take heal over time over shields all day shields

All u gotta do is pop vigor in heavy armor and ur good to go for 10 seconds of dps

When im on magicka character I feel like im fighting with anxiety

I'm not saying it's hard to heal on Stam characters, I'm saying that the style of healing would be better for the game. You get one burst heal that's basically on a 15sec cooldown, a weak HoT, and a strong HoT on demand. You can also be affected by Major/Minor defile, which is a good thing, and you have to invest at least 10-15 pts into Blessed. Shields are a better way to heal yourself, but force you to be on the defensive for longer.

That would be super boring. I want variety, not a lot of clones running around.

I'll take more balanced gameplay over variety.

thankyourat wrote: »

mmolegends44 wrote: »

@alexkdd99 he has a point @SnubbS if they made vigor heals way better for stam in my opinion vigor does not heal properly at all it's annoying when you in a middle of a fight pop vigor and it doesn't heal you at times just irritating.

Buff vigor? You have to be kidding. Vigor is super op on some of my characters I can get 6k vigor ticks that's pretty much a burst heal that tics multiple times. I'm pretty sure this is a troll thread

I'm not saying buff vigor, I'm saying give every class a way to heal and eliminate shields.

I was referring to the op. When he said they would need to make vigor way better

Biro123

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Most easily avoidable burst:
Sorcerer
Worst defence in large-scale and out of combat:
Sorcerer
Best illusion of Mobility
Sorceror
Best mobility
Any magicka class with mist-form.. or stamsorc.
Coolest players
Sorceror
Sexyest players
Sorceror
Smartest players
Sorceror

(and there is probably more that I forgot about)

have to disagree. 99% of sorcs are guaranteed to play like ass and die all the time. Most sorcs are zookeepers anyway. They just run around streaking/poping their ward/clanfear and forget about mechanics >.<

Just saying. Sorcs are like templars: they're very very rarely played by compotent players. Usually when I see a mag sorc on my team for vet dailies I think 'fml bail bail bail'.

Oh well, in that case.. Buff Sorcs!

Frawr

I actually don't have a problem with the Shields as such.

As melee, I have a problem with people being able to streat or teleport while rooted.

Simply put, if anyone has a root applied then they should be dodgerolling before they can streak.

Root should mean root.

zuto40

BrassRazoo wrote: »

So now our nerfed 6 second shields actually work again and keep us alive for longer? How long should it take to kill us? The same as a vigor spaming NB or DK? The same as Blazing Shield vamp Temp? Oh thats right you were used to two second kills from vipers and validreth, sorry.

You can't spam vigor ***

ADarklore

Sausage wrote: »

Sorc has been Zen's favorite Class since the launch.

It's funny you say this because when I joined the game, Magicka Sorcs were bottom of the barrel, there were threads daily about how stamina was outperforming Sorcs, Sorcs were horrible, etc, etc. It wasn't until a short time ago that Magicka Sorcs started to see more attention... and suddenly, OMG, "Stamina sucks, Sorcs are ZOS' favorite". Well, I've been here for almost two years and I can tell you that it isn't true.

Biro123

Frawr wrote: »

I actually don't have a problem with the Shields as such.

As melee, I have a problem with people being able to streat or teleport while rooted.

Simply put, if anyone has a root applied then they should be dodgerolling before they can streak.

Root should mean root.

I don't know why you have trouble with this. Streak is not like roll-dodge where you can ani-cancel an ability with it - so you have to choose - streak OR shield. If you streak - it puts you..... still in gap-closer range! and you're still rooted.. and your shields have probably gone too.. so what next..? streak again? (gap-close ususally hits you first) or shield (cos u know crit-rush is incoming).
As ranged, I have a problem with gap-closers snaring, being longer range than my escape tool, and being spammable.. and then the inevitable tremorscale snare making it like you're wading through treacle.

Actually, lets compare streak with dodgeroll..

Streak needs a bar-slot - dodgeroll doesn't
You take damage while streaking - dodgeroll - dodges it
They both move you a similar distance (streak being slightly further)
Streak seems quicker - but in reality it isn't due to the pause before and after casting
Dodge-roll can be used to ani-cancel - streak cannot
Dodgeroll can go in any direction, streak can only go forwards
Streak has an offensive component - dodgeroll doesn't
Both have an increasing cost mechanic.
Dodgeroll breaks roots, streak does not
dodgeroll isn't buggy as hell.

There is a reason that many good sorcs are fitting in stam for occasional dodgerolling into their builds now

jlboozer

Maybe your playing the wrong game...you seem more like a CoD player, with the defensive personality and calling people stupid for giving opinions.

Kodrac

And you call yourself an mmo legend.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

I honestly wish that shields weren't even in the game and everyone had to heal like Stam characters.

Dude stam characters are so easier in pvp what you mean? U can vigor while u dps with vigor healing u for 20k over 5 seconds.

Il take heal over time over shields all day shields

All u gotta do is pop vigor in heavy armor and ur good to go for 10 seconds of dps

When im on magicka character I feel like im fighting with anxiety

Jeezy, I wish I got 20k heals from vigor lol. Not in my measly medium armor with no major or minor mending.

And to the other guy who said "vigor spamming NB's and Stam DK's", after they made vigor to break cloak it's no longer and issue as most NB rock medium armor. No extra healing from heavy armor and no passives to help with healing. Most are healing (tool tip/cyro heal debuff pending) for 12k to 13k. Minus Lucky crits.

As for OP. I think shields aren't too bad. Just plan your bursts. Once shields are down it usually only takes 2 hits to kill them. A sorc in light armor would be worthless without shields. Judging by your discontent for the supposed nerf to Stam DK I'm guessing that's your class. What's your setup? Maybe we can help give an idea how to better handle shields.