Youre forcing me to Sub for the Bag arent you?

ArchMikem

Homestead has only exaggerated already prominent issues even more so. Whos idea was it to have furnishings be yet more items you have to shove somewhere if theyre not placed in your home? My bank is already at capacity, i just spent 43k on the last ten slots and im too broke to expand it anymore, i just cant add more stuff to it let alone all the new crafting materials. I refuse to go down the path of creating more characters as mobile storage.

Please, if anything, make it so the furnishings category dont count towards our inventory space. Housing right now serves no practical use toward gameplay, so the items associated with it shouldnt hurt us in a practical way.

SolidusPrime

Working as intended, unfortunately.

You'll need to use a character as a bank slot, get one of the free homes and use it as a storage unit, or subscribe.

BlackSparrow

Get another property (run the Free Apartment quest on an alt in another alliance, or get one of the 10k apartments) and dump all the furniture items you're not using in there.

If you have a master crafter (even still in the making), learn crafting recipes now, even if they don't yet meet the requirements. If you're leveling all their crafts, they'll know it eventually, so there's not point in saving the recipes for later.

Sell anything you don't want. if you don't have a guild trader, either pass it to a friend who does or vendor trash it for a pittance.

It's true they want you to sub, but the only thing you should be banking here are the six new crafting materials. Everything else, you should either dump in a warehouse, use, or sell.

waterfairy

Invite a bunch of noobs to a guild and you'll have 500 bank slots. The only drawback is items don't stack so you'll have to withdraw things to stack them.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

You're just now figuring this out?

mb10

*** lol, they halved the amount of furnishing you can have in a manor if you arent a ESO+ member too. Such BS and do you know what? Ill find a way to make it happen and will not become a + memeber.

Elsonso

ArchMikem wrote: »

Homestead has only exaggerated already prominent issues even more so. Whos idea was it to have furnishings be yet more items you have to shove somewhere if theyre not placed in your home? My bank is already at capacity, i just spent 43k on the last ten slots and im too broke to expand it anymore, i just cant add more stuff to it let alone all the new crafting materials. I refuse to go down the path of creating more characters as mobile storage.

Please, if anything, make it so the furnishings category dont count towards our inventory space. Housing right now serves no practical use toward gameplay, so the items associated with it shouldnt hurt us in a practical way.

Sell off some of the stuff you have in your bank/bags.

Chilly-McFreeze

Make a mule alt, create a guild, stuff your furniture in one of the free apartments, in-game mail your stuff back and forth to a friend, farm gold for more bank/ inventar slots, decon/sell your items, sub for a month so all the craft stuff goes in your bag, it will stay there after your sub expires. And last but not least - stop complaining about not having stuff for free other players pay for. Gimme-gimme mentality.

Riga_Mortis

Buy a cheapish house and then use the in house storage chest to..................oh wait nvm!!!!

ArchMikem

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Make a mule alt, create a guild, stuff your furniture in one of the free apartments, in-game mail your stuff back and forth to a friend, farm gold for more bank/ inventar slots, decon/sell your items, sub for a month so all the craft stuff goes in your bag, it will stay there after your sub expires. And last but not least - stop complaining about not having stuff for free other players pay for. Gimme-gimme mentality.

Im not the one here using the words, "gimme gimme". And at least i asked nicely with my suggestion. Did you miss your morning hug though, theres a bit of salt in those words.

idk

@ArchMikem m

I agree that furnishings need to go into a separate inventory.

I'd also suggest ESO isn't forcing you to sub for the crafting bag. It's a choice. I did sell more matts before the bag. Now I only sell upgrade matts.

Danikat

Why do you want to store furniture in your inventory?

If you don't want to keep it then you're best off selling it ASAP because prices are dropping rapidly now it's been out for a few weeks and the initial rush has calmed down.

If you do want to keep it dump it into one of the free inn rooms (even items which don't fit in the room, like trees can be placed there). Without a subscription each room can hold 15 items so that's 45 things you can clear out of your bank/inventory.

Admittedly it makes the inn rooms look a bit strange. I got my first painting today and having this big ornate gold framed artwork hanging over my rough bedroll and tiny stool and table looks silly. But when I've saved enough gold for my house it'll look great in there.

Wifeaggro13

ArchMikem wrote: »

Homestead has only exaggerated already prominent issues even more so. Whos idea was it to have furnishings be yet more items you have to shove somewhere if theyre not placed in your home? My bank is already at capacity, i just spent 43k on the last ten slots and im too broke to expand it anymore, i just cant add more stuff to it let alone all the new crafting materials. I refuse to go down the path of creating more characters as mobile storage.

Please, if anything, make it so the furnishings category dont count towards our inventory space. Housing right now serves no practical use toward gameplay, so the items associated with it shouldnt hurt us in a practical way.

Lol yep

Artanis

I'd rather have ZOS make more money via subscription and crafting bags and use their budget to continue the game, balance out classes/sets, and add more endgame contents.

TBH, subscription fee is not a big issue for ESO in my opinion, considering how much we have to pay for monthly Netflix, cellphone usage and such.

Sigtric

Why hold onto the furniture if you're not going to place it down? 3 free storage rooms available too (2 if you're living in one)

Volrion

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Make a mule alt, create a guild, stuff your furniture in one of the free apartments, in-game mail your stuff back and forth to a friend, farm gold for more bank/ inventar slots, decon/sell your items, sub for a month so all the craft stuff goes in your bag, it will stay there after your sub expires. And last but not least - stop complaining about not having stuff for free other players pay for. Gimme-gimme mentality.

God that sounds so tedious... You'd spend an hour each session just organizing your inventory! They'd have to change the name to ISO; Inventory Space Online

idk

@Danikat

Bound furniture cannot t be sold so if needed t used it takes up inventory space or has to be destroyed. That's the isssue.

On this subject players should think of the big picture.

alexkdd99

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@ArchMikem m

I agree that furnishings need to go into a separate inventory.

I'd also suggest ESO isn't forcing you to sub for the crafting bag. It's a choice. I did sell more matts before the bag. Now I only sell upgrade matts.

They are strongly suggesting that you sub, and I am subbing.

The absolute only reason I still sub is the craft bag. Especially with the change to chapters, the craft bag is really the main draw to eso+. I would say most who have it would tell you the same. Craft bags = crack.

Annalyse

SourishWhale wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Make a mule alt, create a guild, stuff your furniture in one of the free apartments, in-game mail your stuff back and forth to a friend, farm gold for more bank/ inventar slots, decon/sell your items, sub for a month so all the craft stuff goes in your bag, it will stay there after your sub expires. And last but not least - stop complaining about not having stuff for free other players pay for. Gimme-gimme mentality.

God that sounds so tedious... You'd spend an hour each session just organizing your inventory! They'd have to change the name to ISO; Inventory Space Online

Yeah that is my problem currently. I think I spend more time sorting stuff onto alts than I doing playing some days. It's frustrating.

And I don't even have an issue with furniture at all (I don't carry it around, I just put it in a house). But they add so many materials with each new update. I didn't have 6 spaces free in my bank so it just means more shuffling.

VinyParsley2016

ArchMikem wrote: »

Homestead has only exaggerated already prominent issues even more so. Whos idea was it to have furnishings be yet more items you have to shove somewhere if theyre not placed in your home? My bank is already at capacity, i just spent 43k on the last ten slots and im too broke to expand it anymore, i just cant add more stuff to it let alone all the new crafting materials. I refuse to go down the path of creating more characters as mobile storage.

Please, if anything, make it so the furnishings category dont count towards our inventory space. Housing right now serves no practical use toward gameplay, so the items associated with it shouldnt hurt us in a practical way.

Sell all those junks in your bank, then you will not be broke anymore, and you will get empty slots as well. Double win!

idk

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@ArchMikem m

I agree that furnishings need to go into a separate inventory.

I'd also suggest ESO isn't forcing you to sub for the crafting bag. It's a choice. I did sell more matts before the bag. Now I only sell upgrade matts.

They are strongly suggesting that you sub, and I am subbing.

The absolute only reason I still sub is the craft bag. Especially with the change to chapters, the craft bag is really the main draw to eso+. I would say most who have it would tell you the same. Craft bags = crack.

The crafting bag is certainly a big incentive to sub and I think it was s good business decision since the other perks were meh. I'd expect Zos will add more beneficial perks down the road.

I prefer the positive incentive to sub vs punishment for not subbing. SWTOR heavily punishes those that don't sub. They gain XP at a significantly slower rate. Cannot join PvP or PvE raids. They cannot equip epic gear and have limited crafting potential and more unless one subs.

Tai-Chi

mb10 wrote: »

*** lol, they halved the amount of furnishing you can have in a manor if you arent a ESO+ member too. Such BS and do you know what? Ill find a way to make it happen and will not become a + memeber.

No they have not. They have doubled the amount of furnishing for ESO+ members and not halved it for everyone else, as you state.

People who sub, especially those with 180 day membership, deserve something for their investment and the risk they take. In the real world, an investor usually expects a financial return on their investment.That is one of the basics of finance. Those of us making subscriptions, do not expect a financial reward. I see nothing at all wrong in getting a few perks for our loyalty to the game.

Chilly-McFreeze

@ArchMikem I made a list with things you could do to keep your furnishings. But indeed, at the end there was a grain of salt. Maybe because there where a dozend+ topics in the last time about how unfair and greedy Zos is and your title "forcing me to sub" is exactly what fits into this category.

However, you demand that Zeni should change the system because YOU unwilling to do anything to have more storage. If you don't already have filled all character slots, creating a mule is by far the easiest of all things you could do. And it is absolutly free.
Then again, you said you just paid 43k for your bank upgrade, means you should sit at 150 slots. AFAIK you can upgrade up to 240 slots. Of course you have to earn it by gathering gold.
But instead you asked Zeni to give you more free storage.

Jazbay_Grape

Don't do it ArchMikem - unless you want to be trapped into the sub. I've wanted to un-sub several times following another one of those awesome lag buzzzz crashes, but I can't now, because of the bag. That bag might as well be made out of crack. I'm shaking as I type this.

Rosveen

Tai-Chi wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

*** lol, they halved the amount of furnishing you can have in a manor if you arent a ESO+ member too. Such BS and do you know what? Ill find a way to make it happen and will not become a + memeber.

No they have not. They have doubled the amount of furnishing for ESO+ members and not halved it for everyone else, as you state.

People who sub, especially those with 180 day membership, deserve something for their investment and the risk they take. In the real world, an investor usually expects a financial return on their investment.That is one of the basics of finance. Those of us making subscriptions, do not expect a financial reward. I see nothing at all wrong in getting a few perks for our loyalty to the game.

Speaking of the basics of finance, an MMO sub is not an investment. It's payment for access to a service. Two different things.

Tai-Chi

Rosveen wrote: »

Tai-Chi wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

*** lol, they halved the amount of furnishing you can have in a manor if you arent a ESO+ member too. Such BS and do you know what? Ill find a way to make it happen and will not become a + memeber.

No they have not. They have doubled the amount of furnishing for ESO+ members and not halved it for everyone else, as you state.

People who sub, especially those with 180 day membership, deserve something for their investment and the risk they take. In the real world, an investor usually expects a financial return on their investment.That is one of the basics of finance. Those of us making subscriptions, do not expect a financial reward. I see nothing at all wrong in getting a few perks for our loyalty to the game.

Speaking of the basics of finance, an MMO sub is not an investment. It's payment for access to a service. Two different things.

One does not need to take out a sub to gain access to the service. If that were the case, evryone would have to sub.

The money from subs, is money up-front, that the developers use to help keep the game going. They are the equvalent to a loan.

The_Duke

The more BS zos thows at us the less likely I am to subscribe. I buy the DLCs out right when there are crown sales. If they spent more time fixing this game instead of coming up with new ways to force us to spend money I would gladly sub. I subbed for 4 years on DCUO, I have no problem supporting a game under the right circumstances.

Darkestnght

I look at my crafting bag as a huge time saver. If you love the game a play it often a bag will save you so much time over the long run you may soon find the monthly price is more than worth it. I went as far as to by a banker and now save even more time.

I think it is a small price to pay to up your game play time and reduce the stress of inventory management..

Elsonso

Tai-Chi wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Tai-Chi wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

*** lol, they halved the amount of furnishing you can have in a manor if you arent a ESO+ member too. Such BS and do you know what? Ill find a way to make it happen and will not become a + memeber.

No they have not. They have doubled the amount of furnishing for ESO+ members and not halved it for everyone else, as you state.

People who sub, especially those with 180 day membership, deserve something for their investment and the risk they take. In the real world, an investor usually expects a financial return on their investment.That is one of the basics of finance. Those of us making subscriptions, do not expect a financial reward. I see nothing at all wrong in getting a few perks for our loyalty to the game.

Speaking of the basics of finance, an MMO sub is not an investment. It's payment for access to a service. Two different things.

One does not need to take out a sub to gain access to the service. If that were the case, evryone would have to sub.

The money from subs, is money up-front, that the developers use to help keep the game going. They are the equvalent to a loan.

No.

AzraelKrieg

Sigtric wrote: »

Why hold onto the furniture if you're not going to place it down? 3 free storage rooms available too (2 if you're living in one)

Why would someone live in a storage closet?

Humatiel

So what your saying is you dont like that you cant have more bank space and more gold and more items easily and just shouldn't be asked to inconvenience yourself by using a mule.

We'll go ahead and just move you up to 700CP (cant be too prepared) while we're at it and create an infinity symbol next to your gold amount.