perma bans for vmol glitch

saxgooner

I have heard about people getting permanent bans and for cheating the skin on vmol.
also noticed the amount of skin wearers has dropped.
a coincidence?

Xerton

To good to be true

BigBragg

In before close, as the forums are not the place to talk about disciplinary actions.

Sovaso

Fake!

DRXHarbinger

What not wearing the skin would make you invisible to zos knowing how much of a dirty cheat you are? Don't panic just yet.

Buffler

Would never happen, they banned people over the banker writ glitch for 3 days, same as people using CE. nobody will get banned because of the silly little vmol glitch.

Waseem

what are you talking about?
players who used cheat engine and dropped meteors like M&Ms in Cyrodiil did not get permanently banned..

ku5h

Buffler wrote: »

Would never happen, they banned people over the banker writ glitch for 3 days, same as people using CE. nobody will get banned because of the silly little vmol glitch.

Silly little glitch? Hardest content in the game, beatable only by top players, giving skin for completion made easy mode is silly little glitch to you! I guess you wouldnt think that way if you spent hour and hours geting your skin the legit way.

SaRuZ

Lol, saw 200CPs sporting it yesterday. "Any1 wanna run vMoL HM? I have skin! I'm hard now!"

I guess all the hardcore PvE elitists will have to go back to actually testing out players instead of segregating them into "Skin - Pro Runs B! No-Skin? Progression!!" smdh.

DRXHarbinger

SaRuZ wrote: »

Lol, saw 200CPs sporting it yesterday. "Any1 wanna run vMoL HM? I have skin! I'm hard now!"

I guess all the hardcore PvE elitists will have to go back to actually testing out players instead of segregating them into "Skin - Pro Runs B! No-Skin? Progression!!" smdh.

Really though. Still never seen any proof of these low level skins. No shots or vids or anything.

Prof_Bawbag

Even if someone at CP200 did have it, doesn't mean they cheated. After all, there are many people out there who have been carried through these things. I'm assuming before 1T it was also possible to get most of these skins by using the old levelling group trick

DRXHarbinger

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Even if someone at CP200 did have it, doesn't mean they cheated. After all, there are many people out there who have been carried through these things. I'm assuming before 1T it was also possible to get most of these skins by using the old levelling group trick

Downscaling never worked on it. Thousands cried at launch over it. ZOS failed to add at the time text to say must be scaled to v16 at the time. Hence why it still says v16 now despite them not existing anymore. Because zos keeps stuff up to date.

Liofa

Stop with the blaming low CP players having the skin . I have ran with several low CP players in vMoL ( we had to replace a group member ) and they learned mechanics in 2-3 tries and adapted to trial in no time . Even though they did lower DPS , they did deserve it by following mechanics properly . Those players I mentioned are better than most high CP players we tested . CP means nothing . I know people who doesn't know light attack gives ultimate regeneration but has more than 700 CP .

Even though what I said is off-topic , it makes me mad to see people blaming low CP players for having skin and assuming they cheated . Just stop . Anyone who actually cheated will show it clearly when they actually got to fight legit . Just because a low CP player has a skin , doesn't mean they cheat . Simple as that .

TL;DR : I am all for banning cheaters but don't blame low CP players because they have skin . There are some who got it legit and deserve it .

Turelus

Generally ZOS don't seem to care about these issues past stopping them from being done.

Only extreme cases seem to be punished, generally because they're slow to declare something an exploit or to patch it people will flock to it and abuse it like crazy until fixed, then they seem to not like to bad because of the mass numbers.

zaria

ku5h wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

Would never happen, they banned people over the banker writ glitch for 3 days, same as people using CE. nobody will get banned because of the silly little vmol glitch.

Silly little glitch? Hardest content in the game, beatable only by top players, giving skin for completion made easy mode is silly little glitch to you! I guess you wouldnt think that way if you spent hour and hours geting your skin the legit way.

Yes, on the other hand its just an achievement you get easy using glitches in the game.
Its not as using cheat engine or bots nor does it hurt other players.

Rohamad_Ali

I generally avoid anything that starts with "I heard" . If you know someone this happened too then that is news worthy . I don't know anyone permabanned for that .

Doctordarkspawn

Banning people would require ZOS to throw away their potential for monitization.

The reason goldspammers are thrown out with such frequency is because their not making you anything and trying to *** with your economic system. This is a skin. The people in suits dont think as highly of it as you do.

DRXHarbinger

zaria wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

Would never happen, they banned people over the banker writ glitch for 3 days, same as people using CE. nobody will get banned because of the silly little vmol glitch.

Silly little glitch? Hardest content in the game, beatable only by top players, giving skin for completion made easy mode is silly little glitch to you! I guess you wouldnt think that way if you spent hour and hours geting your skin the legit way.

Yes, on the other hand its just an achievement you get easy using glitches in the game.
Its not as using cheat engine or bots nor does it hurt other players.

Also they are still forgetting the fact you didn't get the skin for just killing rhakkat. You need to kill all 3 boss fights on the same instance in 1 run. Streaking from one side of the map and spending 2hrs sniping him didn't grant the skin. Also that player then needs to get into a group on a stam sorc to complete vmol as a whole good luck getting on as stam if it's known to be your 1st clear

kevlarto_ESO

Xerton wrote: »

To good to be true

This ^^^^

yukikenzo

You cannot glitch the skin! As @DRXHarbinger already said you have to beat the first and second bosses to get the skin. And there is no reason to cheese Rakkhat if you went past the second boss. That's just a pretty lame excuse of people who were not able to get the skin on their own.

Xerton

@yukikenzo so you are trying to tell me, that every group that can get past the twins can kill Rakkhat?
Lmao

DRXHarbinger

yukikenzo wrote: »

You cannot glitch the skin! As @DRXHarbinger already said you have to beat the first and second bosses to get the skin. And there is no reason to cheese Rakkhat if you went past the second boss. That's just a pretty lame excuse of people who were not able to get the skin on their own.

Yes this, I say this from a semi experience. I have the skin Legit and was just "farming" in Vmol having some private time. I paid Rakkhat a visit to see just how it worked, no intention of glitching hard mode at all, I don't have the mentality to sit there for hours on end spamming snipe and my guild would rage hard at me and again plus I'd never get to do it again for the title on my stamsorc, my sole part in Vmol is a chainer so would be pointless for me and I actually want to do it legit. I have all the gold sets too, it was just curiosity and Rakkhat always instakilled me lol
Back OT, several people were popping up who claimed to have done it, they either;

1 refused to show me the skin.
2 asked me to get into a group and leave after the twins when they complete it they'll show me how to do hard mode?
3 One I agreed to the above providing they could prove either they had the skin or send me a screenshot via XBL of the achievement of hard mode being completed ( no intention of honoring it, was just curious if this even existed )

So again, no one got the skin to my knowledge, I still have not seen any screenshots of the achievement Hardmode completed whilst regular Vmol being uncompleted.

The glitch was not what it was cracked up to be, it was just several chest farms of the 1st boss chests and the 3 before Rakkhat.

Panic over.

( for the record I felt entitled to farm it, I honestly think I ran VMA more times that anyone else in this game and it took a year for any sharp destro to drop, I never had a sash of the scathing mage drop to this day and never looted still 7 months down the line DB Legs motif despite running these a minimum 3 times daily and having ALL 7 toons kitted out with all the rest of the motif, forcing me to buy it, I have done all content in the game bar VMOL HM legit ) That's my reason anyway, RNG owed me and only rewarded me with 1 Moondancer sword in Sharp over a whole weekend of farming so it wasn't time well spent of enjoyable. This is not to provoke some hate mail or a secondary discussion, it's not needed, reasons are above. I have never gltiched or cheated at achievements as I enjoy doing it, as per recent posts in doing all of....Stormhaven, Rivenspire, Alikr, Bangkorai and Cyrodiil Quests in 2 days solid for Tamriel Hero and then EVERY Skyshard and Explorer this year. I just felt RNGeesus owed me. that is all. Rant over.

DurzoBlint13

have they ever actually PERMAbanned anyone though??? Not even when people were blatantly exploiting the banker glitch did they PERMANTLY ban anyone- they just slapped a couple wrists and everyone kept what they exploited. I have no faith in any "action" ZOS takes against exploiters.

DRXHarbinger

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

have they ever actually PERMAbanned anyone though??? Not even when people were blatantly exploiting the banker glitch did they PERMANTLY ban anyone- they just slapped a couple wrists and everyone kept what they exploited. I have no faith in any "action" ZOS takes against exploiters.

No one has been to date. They made an example of a well known streamer for running vma back in the day but he just said sorry and was back online in no time.

SaRuZ

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Lol, saw 200CPs sporting it yesterday. "Any1 wanna run vMoL HM? I have skin! I'm hard now!"

I guess all the hardcore PvE elitists will have to go back to actually testing out players instead of segregating them into "Skin - Pro Runs B! No-Skin? Progression!!" smdh.

Really though. Still never seen any proof of these low level skins. No shots or vids or anything.

That's the thing! They didn't earn it! They paid for it, either by exploiting glitch or hiring 11 people to carry them through. People advertise in chat "Selling vMoL runs, 600k." That's cheap, it was up to 4 million.

Meaning anyone can get it now if they have some spare gold, doesn't matter what level.

soll

would never believe.

there is no parma bans in ESO.
people, who screwed whole Cyro with CE, spamming ults and etc just said to ZOS that they deleted CE from their PC, and so they were unbanned.

sking glitch bans? lol no

yukikenzo

SaRuZ wrote: »

That's the thing! They didn't earn it! They paid for it, either by exploiting glitch or hiring 11 people to carry them through. People advertise in chat "Selling vMoL runs, 600k." That's cheap, it was up to 4 million.

Meaning anyone can get it now if they have some spare gold, doesn't matter what level.

As I already said, you cannot glitch exploit the skin just by cheesing Rakkhat! Yeah, a lot of people got carried through vMoL. Some paid for the skin. BUT you can NEVER. EVER. GLITCH the skin.

DRXHarbinger

SaRuZ wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Lol, saw 200CPs sporting it yesterday. "Any1 wanna run vMoL HM? I have skin! I'm hard now!"

I guess all the hardcore PvE elitists will have to go back to actually testing out players instead of segregating them into "Skin - Pro Runs B! No-Skin? Progression!!" smdh.

Really though. Still never seen any proof of these low level skins. No shots or vids or anything.

That's the thing! They didn't earn it! They paid for it, either by exploiting glitch or hiring 11 people to carry them through. People advertise in chat "Selling vMoL runs, 600k." That's cheap, it was up to 4 million.

Meaning anyone can get it now if they have some spare gold, doesn't matter what level.

Let them buy it. And what? They will never get into a group to run it still and farm the gear.

I had someone offer me and 2 others 200k each for a No death ICP run. We did it, he got the Hoarvar and I got the gold. So what? He got what is effectively the 2nd hardest thing in the game to get (it's way way harder than cradle and Mazzatun now rng on warden is a right pig)

Everyone wins....

TLDR Paying for a mercenary service isn't cheating.

zaria

SaRuZ wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Lol, saw 200CPs sporting it yesterday. "Any1 wanna run vMoL HM? I have skin! I'm hard now!"

I guess all the hardcore PvE elitists will have to go back to actually testing out players instead of segregating them into "Skin - Pro Runs B! No-Skin? Progression!!" smdh.

Really though. Still never seen any proof of these low level skins. No shots or vids or anything.

That's the thing! They didn't earn it! They paid for it, either by exploiting glitch or hiring 11 people to carry them through. People advertise in chat "Selling vMoL runs, 600k." That's cheap, it was up to 4 million.

Meaning anyone can get it now if they have some spare gold, doesn't matter what level.

Somebody said above that the glitch did not let you get the skin.
No rules against paying people to carry you trough an raid. A bit hard to enforce too.
Now if you paid 600K for an skin would you not use it?

sevomd69

Permaban is about as rare as aethereal dust...