What is the purpose of VMA??

Bigevilpeter

I really want know why ZOS designed it, is it made just to annoy people??

Why is the rng rigged to be as bad as it is?
Why can't they improve drops and make the fun of it actually getting scores and leaderboards?

VMA already takes a long time to learn and finish and once you learn it you start the most horrible single player in a MMO grind ever!!

It still takes me over an hour to finish it only to get completely useless S&B or a powered lighting staff!!

I really want to understand why ZOS havent fixed the RNG yet or added a token system?

NewBlacksmurf

Looong ago people asked for some sort of end game solo only content. Ppl also asked for a solo only instances place to grind and get loot

This came as a result

DannyLV702

Gear and scores

O_LYKOS

To find the best of the best of the best, Sir!

disintegr8

It's purpose is to torment the minds of the weak.

KingKush

disintegr8 wrote: »

It's purpose is to torment the minds of the weak.

In other case, working as intended.

Stopnaggin

Magsorc.

Surragard

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.

Sounds like you just need to find a chill group to run it with. If you're going through with random pick-up players you could have a hard time. I would recommend finding a guild with people who have run it in the past and can take you through.

idk

disintegr8 wrote: »

It's purpose is to torment the minds of the weak.

This ^ ^ ^

And to provide entertainment in the forums.

bloodthirstyvampire

Surragard wrote: »

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.

Sounds like you just need to find a chill group to run it with. If you're going through with random pick-up players you could have a hard time. I would recommend finding a guild with people who have run it in the past and can take you through.

Lol this one thinks vma is a group activity

Luigi_Vampa

Surragard wrote: »

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.

Sounds like you just need to find a chill group to run it with. If you're going through with random pick-up players you could have a hard time. I would recommend finding a guild with people who have run it in the past and can take you through.

Ummm, vMA is a solo arena.

DurzoBlint13

to add another layer of RNG into a game plagued with bad RNG, piled on top of the fact that RNG should never be used as a loot system in the first place....its just lazy and unimaginative game design

bloodthirstyvampire

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

to add another layer of RNG into a game plagued with bad RNG, piled on top of the fact that RNG should never be used as a loot system in the first place....its just lazy and unimaginative game design

Rng Isn't lazy its lazy players that just want to be given everything without working for it

Remag_Div

All they need to do is add a token exchange system and it would solve every complaint pretty much.

Danksta

Surragard wrote: »

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.

Sounds like you just need to find a chill group to run it with. If you're going through with random pick-up players you could have a hard time. I would recommend finding a guild with people who have run it in the past and can take you through.

I think a "L2Read" is in order here.

Mic1007

They need some source of salt to fill the Tamriel oceans.

xeNNNNN

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

I really want know why ZOS designed it, is it made just to annoy people??

Why is the rng rigged to be as bad as it is?
Why can't they improve drops and make the fun of it actually getting scores and leaderboards?

VMA already takes a long time to learn and finish and once you learn it you start the most horrible single player in a MMO grind ever!!

It still takes me over an hour to finish it only to get completely useless S&B or a powered lighting staff!!

I really want to understand why ZOS havent fixed the RNG yet or added a token system?

Token system would be great.

I honestly hated it in the beginning but its something to do and after a ton of practice on my dk and friends helping me figure the place out I rather enjoy it sometimes strangely enough, sure the RNG is......well stupid but yeah. Its also good as a place for self improvement, beat your last score etc. Also good for elitists too lol who want to beat eachothers scores for bragging rights etc.

The only round that frustrates me now is the Igneous cistern.

Its infuriating because for some reason no matter what, the game lags horribly in that stage to the point where the mini bosses are teleporting and the fire callers or casters or w/e are teleporting pretty much ruining no death runs. Which is just... yeah. Fix that and ill be happy.

IronCrystal

vMA doesn't have any RNG in completing in other than round 7, and maybe round 9 if you count the ghost spawns.

The drops are bad rng I agree, but not completion of it.

Danksta

To make players better.

Izaki

To overcome your limits as a player, to have a competition with score and to get best in slot weapons.

Bigevilpeter

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

I really want know why ZOS designed it, is it made just to annoy people??

Why is the rng rigged to be as bad as it is?
Why can't they improve drops and make the fun of it actually getting scores and leaderboards?

VMA already takes a long time to learn and finish and once you learn it you start the most horrible single player in a MMO grind ever!!

It still takes me over an hour to finish it only to get completely useless S&B or a powered lighting staff!!

I really want to understand why ZOS havent fixed the RNG yet or added a token system?

Token system would be great.

I honestly hated it in the beginning but its something to do and after a ton of practice on my dk and friends helping me figure the place out I rather enjoy it sometimes strangely enough, sure the RNG is......well stupid but yeah. Its also good as a place for self improvement, beat your last score etc. Also good for elitists too lol who want to beat eachothers scores for bragging rights etc.

Well if its a good place for self improvement and scores then why are the good weapons so hard to get, people can still compete for scores even if they get the weapons. But being forced to repeat it so much and playing solo for all that time just to get the BIS weapons is a horrible design idea

Stopnaggin

Surragard wrote: »

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.

Sounds like you just need to find a chill group to run it with. If you're going through with random pick-up players you could have a hard time. I would recommend finding a guild with people who have run it in the past and can take you through.

You do realize is a solo instance right?

jakeedmundson

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

To overcome your limits as a player, to have a competition with score and to get best in slot weapons.

BOLD^^^^^

That would be fantastic if we could actually GET them

Preyfar

Just need to ask yourself why ZOS keeps the "Charged" trait as in VMA when it has zero effect on VMA weapons. It's literally like getting a weapon without a trait.

The answer: filler. It's filler content.

Tandor

Remag_Div wrote: »

All they need to do is add a token exchange system and it would solve every complaint pretty much.

Until people have run it a few times, used their tokens, got what they want, and then start complaining about the lack of content.

AtAfternoon

It's most likely a trick set up by the God of Schemes, allowing the Vestige to willingly banish himself to a realm of Oblivion, where he or she spends the better part of eternity fighting for something they'll never get until they're filled with nothing but dread and despair.

I'm not saying Fa-Nuit-Hen and Molag Bal are conspiring against the Vestige, I'm just saying it's oddly convenient there's an Oblivion gate just sitting there.

DMuehlhausen

You will respect by ePEEN!

Remag_Div

Tandor wrote: »

Remag_Div wrote: »

All they need to do is add a token exchange system and it would solve every complaint pretty much.

Until people have run it a few times, used their tokens, got what they want, and then start complaining about the lack of content.

Knowing ZOS the token system will still be a tremendous grind, but at least then it would reward people the weapon they want after hundreds of runs.

jakeedmundson

Tandor wrote: »

Remag_Div wrote: »

All they need to do is add a token exchange system and it would solve every complaint pretty much.

Until people have run it a few times, used their tokens, got what they want, and then start complaining about the lack of content.

no, not really. I've never heard anyone say... "i'm so glad i ran vma 157 times. What great content! Those 120 hours just FLEW by!"

doing the same thing over and over and over is not... never was... and never will be "content".
It was content when it first came out and people beat it the first 20 times.... anything after that is just an annoyance

A token system is the perfect idea... they need to do it like the undaunted vendor... limited RNG.
Give you a key or whatever and hand it into one of X number of chests... at least break the items down so people have a glimmer of hope. After 60-70 runs... i've lost all motivation and never go in now... and still didn't get a BIS destro staff. Honestly can't believe some people did this 100s of times (and some still dont' have the item they're after)

soll

vMA... so much to say about it.

RNG is just hilarious. But the biggest joke is drop chance of shields, which are simply trash. No one in the whole game are using vMA shield or sword. I can't remember when I saw someone in the open world with it. I guess it should mean something? And ZOS made drop chance of this underestimating crap the biggest out of all items.

Honestly, it's spit in the face.

after certain amount of runs vMA is not hard and interesting anymore but just exhausting. and every single time you know, that in the final chest you'll get trash, no doubt. What if it's not okay to run dungeon over 300 times to get weapon you want?.

ESO doesn't feel rewarding at all. mindless grind for life!

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Dont confuse the instance with the loot system. VMA is actually a great piece of content. It is very challenging to learn, and nothing will teach more more about your class than working through this arena. You cant be carried through this place, so it also serves as a reasonable benchmark to compare the top players against one another from a PVE standpoint.

Now the loot system is a completely different animal. It is one of the worst things in the game IMO, and this is coming from someone that has most of what the need from there. Why they havent replaced it with some sort of token system is beyond me.